FA W FA Cup 3rd Round

Arsenal 1:1 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Sun, 12 January 2025

Have just re-watched the game.
Referee was better in the second half and extra-time.
It may be churlish to mention that Altay's distribution is awful.
Dalot's second yellow was stupidity but the first was debatable. The Arsenal player was coming in from behind. Dalot went to ground to play the ball and there was a tangle of legs which meant that Dalot couldn't complete his play on the ball. both players ended up on the ground. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will correct me.
It was a classic 'ref hasn't played the game' yellow. Dalot clearly didn't see the attacker therefore it would typically have to be dangerous/unsafe or stopping a great opportunity to get yellow. I thought it was harsh.
 
It was a classic 'ref hasn't played the game' yellow. Dalot clearly didn't see the attacker therefore it would typically have to be dangerous/unsafe or stopping a great opportunity to get yellow. I thought it was harsh.
I thought Dalot was trying to pull out of contact on the first one- was very much studs down. That said, the second one was stupid and the red overall was one of the ref's least contentious decisions.
 
I assume that you mean the initial punch out from Bayindir being weak, as the deflection gave him no chance.

To be fair, as the game went on, I was getting more confident in Bayindir, I always feel that with Onana he could make a bad mistake at any time.

We certainly look much more like a team now, and Amorim hasn't brought any player into the club, yet.

It looks like either this transfer window, or in the summer, Rashford, Casemiro, Eriksen, Antony and Lindelof will probably leave the club, Kirkzee infuriates me. He appears to be quite skilful, but looks so lethargic. Hojlund tries hard, and I think there is a decent player in there, but we need a real proper striker, now.

It was certainly interesting that he brought Collyer on. I've been quite impressed with him, not so much in his abilities with the ball, but he looks like he could become a solid defensive midfielder, he doesn't shirk any physical contact, and hopefully his passing ability would improve as he got more games.
Yes, I did mean the punch. It's possible a world-class keeper - Schmeichel or VdS in their prime would have saved it (Ray did so late on for them) but I wasn't blaming Bayindir for not stopping the shot
 
I'm just tired of the inconsistent officiating.
Agreed, but it isn't just between ref's interpretation in different games, to some extent you could expect that, but It is also the inconsistency in the same game.
Throughout the match on Sunday, we rarely got any of the 50/50 decisions, and at one point Arsenal players only had to fall over when there was a United player in the vicinity, to get a free kick.

Dalot's second yellow was a yellow in my opinion simply because he didn't make any contact with the ball, so the ref was free to interpret the tackle as dangerous/ uncontrolled, which he did. However, with the assault on Bruno, he was free not to interpret the attack from behind as a mugging gone wrong, because Bruno jumped up straight away and fired his boot into the ground... so he must have been OK... inconsistency in the same game, with all the decisions going one way.
 
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And if it goes badly, resume posting in the Amorim thread about how he was a bad appointment, and that Frank would’ve been better?
Of course I can do that, no matter how the match goes. You must expect a win over Southampton, right?

No matter what, none of us fans can say for sure whether Amorim is the right manager or not. We have a presumption for or against, but we will have to wait and see until we reach further into the future. However, there should be no doubt that I hope I am wrong about him, and he turns out to be our best manager since Fergie.
 

Man of the Match

Provisional results
Altay Bayindir image Altay Bayindir 68% of 364 votes

Runners-up

Player Ratings

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7.0 Total Average Rating

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Score Predictions

73,69,20
  • Man Utd win
  • Arsenal win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 25% Arsenal 1:2 Man Utd
  • 17% Arsenal 2:1 Man Utd
  • 12% Arsenal 2:0 Man Utd
  • 8% Arsenal 3:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Arsenal 0:2 Man Utd
  • 6% Arsenal 2:2 Man Utd
  • 6% Arsenal 2:3 Man Utd
  • 6% Arsenal 1:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Arsenal 3:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Arsenal 0:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Arsenal 1:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Arsenal 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 0:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 6:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 0:5 Man Utd
Compiled from 162 predictions.
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Match Stats

  1. Arsenal
  2. Man Utd
Overall possession
70.3% 29.7%
Shots
26 7
Shots on target
7 4
Total touches in the box
55 13
Goalkeeper saves
3 6
Fouls
10 25
Corners
12 2

Referee

Andy Madley