[SirMattBugsby]

Number 3 point was going through my head all game. it was a similar tactic in the community shield last season

I'm sure Wenger wouldn't have wanted to concede that many chances, but given the circumstances, it was a good ploy. Seemed like a role-reversal at times!

Real Madrid have also been using the same tactic against Atletico for two years now. On the other hand, Bayern Munich always try to take the game to Atleti and shoot themselves in the foot.

 

[Coops73]

We were clearly the better team and deserved the win, shocking decision not to give the pen but I think refs like denying United and particularly Mourinho big decisions. We're going to struggle to get in the top four at this rate but the improvements are there in my opinion, Mata my MOTM closely followed by Tony V and although I was pleased to see Rashford up top I don't think it was a performance that will make Mourinho drop Zlatan but he's going to be a top player.

A good result against Feyenoord and the cockneys on Sunday and this result might not feel so much like defeat.

 

[Jacko21]

I'ts easy to say in hindsight that we should have gone for another. Committing more men forward when in the lead is a gamble that's more likely to see us concede in that situation than score, against top opposition.

That decision to be cautious is not something you base on the opponents level of play in the current game. You base it on the evidence from studying
their strengths from previous games in the season. However weak they might look, they are still capable of pulling of a counterattack from nowhere. There's a reson they're that high up the table.

Basically, what I am trying to say is that the odds of banking on scoring another vs defending the lead with that amount of time left are small. And in this case the most unlikely thing happened.

I'm curious as to what you would have said if we tried to kill of the game with another goal only to concede on the counter? Would you blame Mourinho then for using the wrong tactics?

Football is a simple game at times.

I think too many are accrediting United with a sound tactical display, perhaps it helps people find some shred of comfort in the fact that we've drawn at home for 3 successive games, scored two goals and are boring to watch ATM.

Whilst I'm not saying Mourinho didn't setup to stifle Arsenal, the idea that they were completely nullified by us based on tactics, seems a little fanciful - given what we know about Arsenal at OT, it's reasonable to assume, they didn't bring their A-Game. Similar to when we went to Liverpool, we know they didn't produce their best.

Mourinho/United should've been braver. Given our defensive frailties, not going for a second goal, saw us drop two points.

Too many on here are losing sight of what's considered good football and a good performance. I don't think we're progressing at the rate people think. We work less and in the main, play worse football (in terms of attacking dynamism) than anyone in the Top 5.

Im not saying it won't come together, just not in the way people are proclaiming.

We're not good to watch. So stop feigning faux-tactical-appreciation and accept that countless other teams are far better going forward, work harder and show a greater appetite week in, week out.

 

[Mitser]

Great perfomance. Loved how we started the game particularly. Everyone knows you can (and often do) get your pocket picked if you don't score the second goal, but we will learn from that and also take a lot of confidence on how we dominated the game.
It's still early days for this squad and manager, but that display (with several defenders missing) was very encouraging.

I'm feeling more confident that Jose will know his best 11 by Jan and also we will start turning draws into wins. We're due a couple of referee/pen decisions in our favour by then too!

Also liked how Jose didn't push the ref under a bus post match. He's clearly a good ref just had a bad game, these things generally balance out over the season.

Gutted with the final result, but that perfomance was a definite show of progress and strength.

 

[Ban]

He looks like a man who doesn't enjoy football anymore

How can you or anyone read from his face he doesn't enjoy football anymore. It's a stressful job, nothing else.

 

[Ban]

Football is a simple game at times.

I think too many are accrediting United with a sound tactical display, perhaps it helps people find some shred of comfort in the fact that we've drawn at home for 3 successive games, scored two goals and are boring to watch ATM.

Whilst I'm not saying Mourinho didn't setup to stifle Arsenal, the idea that they were completely nullified by us based on tactics, seems a little fanciful - given what we know about Arsenal at OT, it's reasonable to assume, they didn't bring their A-Game. Similar to when we went to Liverpool, we know they didn't produce their best.

Mourinho/United should've been braver. Given our defensive frailties, not going for a second goal, saw us drop two points.

Too many on here are losing sight of what's considered good football and a good performance. I don't think we're progressing at the rate people think. We work less and in the main, play worse football (in terms of attacking dynamism) than anyone in the Top 5.

Im not saying it won't come together, just not in the way people are proclaiming.

We're not good to watch. So stop feigning faux-tactical-appreciation and accept that countless other teams are far better going forward, work harder and show a greater appetite week in, week out.

How come Arsenal didn't bring their A game or how come Liverpool didn't produce their best. It works both ways, opponent sometimes looks bad cause the other team looks good.

As for the countless teams that's wrong also. Sure top 5 play better football right now but not 'countless' teams. We can argue if we are progressing as quickly as some think but we are indeed progressing. Will that bring at least top 4 we'll see.

Also as for us being brave. We didn't drop our guard up until 5, 10 minutes till the end. When the end of the game is near you don't push crazily for the second but you defend the lead you have. It's just that with their only dangerous attack they scored. It's football, a simple game, as you yourself said.

 

[Jacko21]

How come Arsenal didn't bring their A game or how come Liverpool didn't produce their best. It works both ways, opponent sometimes looks bad cause the other team looks good.

As for the countless teams that's wrong also. Sure top 5 play better football right now but not 'countless' teams. We can argue if we are progressing as quickly as some think but we are indeed progressing. Will that bring at least top 4 we'll see.

Also as for us being brave. We didn't drop our guard up until 5, 10 minutes till the end. When the end of the game is near you don't push crazily for the second but you defend the lead you have. It's just that with their only dangerous attack they scored. It's football, a simple game, as you yourself said.

Ask Wenger that. Ask Klopp that.

Had either side produced their best, we'd have been turned over in the manner than Chelsea turned us over. Our lack of fight after going 1-0 down would've seen to that. To your reference, I'd argue both Liverpool and Arsenal made us look better than we were. Right now, we are not a team who can readily contain free-flowing, high octane opponents for any length of time. Pedestrian-play suits us, they played into our hands by not going for the jugular.

I was speaking more broadly re 'countless' teams - across Europe, you know the level we aspire to be at. We don't work hard enough. Simple as.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Ask Wenger that. Ask Klopp that.

Had either side produced their best, we'd have been turned over in the manner than Chelsea turned us over.

GTFO

 

[Jacko21]

GTFO

Why, for speaking the truth? We would have been. We're so mentally fragile.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Why, for speaking the truth? We would have been. We're so mentally fragile.

Doesn't cut it in sport I'm afraid. They weren't good enough to produce their best and that's the end of it.

We aren't anywhere near the level we should be, I agree

 

[Jacko21]

Doesn't cut it in sport I'm afraid. They weren't good enough to produce their best and that's the end of it.

We aren't anywhere near the level we should be, I agree

Hallelujah! Finally, someone expecting standards of performance something akin to that of teams that we should be competing with.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Hallelujah! Finally, someone expecting standards of performance something akin to that of teams that we should be competing with.

I think everyone agrees so it'/ no hallelujah moment, but most are also seeing a very good midfield for the first time in what feels like forever and that we're improving week by week.

What would be your plan? Sack another manager because it's working out so well for us doing that?

 

[MartialsBeard]

Considering what Arsenal did to us last season at the Emirates.

We were accused of parking the bus before the game even started and the back line we put out I was very impressed with performance but not the result.

When i saw the line-ups i was worried, Arsenals midfield is stacked with quality and they have two or three players that can hurt you in any second and I had serious worries about that defense covering the space we leave behind and the intricate passing of Arsenal.

I was so pleased and surprised when we actually took the game to them and had them pinned back for large portions of the game. alot of people love to write us off at every turn "but it was only swansea, arsenal played crap, liverpool hadnt clicked blah blah blah" fact is you can only play whats infront of you and you can see the methods instilling and we are developing a very powerful game style.

People will always moan but it almost seems like stretching to moan too much about this result. Arsenal are better than us currently and have options moving forwards. the passing game wasnt workimg so they put on one of the best physical finishers in the league with Giroud and went for the power play and it worked.

For us we didnt have that option we either have Martial or Rashford up top for pace and they have similar game styles. Ibra would have been perfect to come on in the remaining mins alas he couldnt.

We need to build the squad more and get more quality in but honestly me and a few non united mates watched the game and we all agreed it was an impressive perfomance and Arsenal deserved nothing from the game.

 

[Jacko21]

I think everyone agrees so it'/ no hallelujah moment, but most are also seeing a very good midfield for the first time in what feels like forever and that we're improving week by week.

What would be your plan? Sack another manager because it's working out so well for us doing that?

Agreed. The midfield trio of Pogba, Herrera and Carrick is, unsurprisingly, more effective.

But no, I don't wan't Mourinho sacked, far from it. I'm not inclined to blame Mourinho. It is the players I question more than anything. I'm dubious as to their hunger, their will to fight... reasonable to assume Jose himself might have a question mark against a handful of individuals on that front too.

These players are hopelessly flakey. Energised and cohesive one week, lethargic and disinterested the next. Mourinho can't hope to foster the kind of culture that has seen him enjoy success everywhere he has managed, when he has players who aren't receptive.

Look at our performance against Fenerbahce away, it was pitiful. I can't blame the players if they're not that interested in the EL, but I find the lack of fight incredibly jarring.

A handful of players aside, I feel nothing for the majority of this squad. They don't work hard enough. They talk a good game and enjoy a laugh in training, but they take to the field and are left found wanting. There is no instinctiveness, little understanding and over-reliance on a individual providing something in the way of a spark.

I just fear that the makeup of this squad, mentally more than anything, will put paid to the idea that some on here believe is inevitable - a stirring, lazarus-like rebirth in the form of an unbeaten run and entertaining football.

I think another transfer window or two is required and several players shipped out for us to see significant progression.

 

[noodlehair]

- In a game where the opposition had created 0 chances and had 0 shots on target, our manager felt the need to make changes to how we were playing so we had MORE people standing around in defence with nothing to do? Someone please explain to me the logic of this decision?

- Also if you are, for no logical reason at all, going to remove attacking outlets and put more people in defence, at least put or bring on people in order to actually do a specific job. What was Schneiderlin's job when he came on? He was brought on just to stand around being a body in defence. What was the point in this? Was there any part of the game where it looked like we didn't have enough players standing around in the way of things?

If you change your set up so your entire team is just standing in defence to make sure there are enough people in defence, then that's what willl happen. You'll have a team of players standing around with no specific job while the other team just do whtever the hell they want.

We created a situation where it wasn't a surprise that Arsenal scored, in a game where they looked completely incapable of scoring...that isn't unlucky, it's stupid management. We keep throwing away games and then blamming luck but games we haven't won have always been within our power to win and we've been the ones throwing them away. That isn't luck. We struggle to convert chances and when we do get a lead our manager invites the other team to score a goal.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

We created a situation where it wasn't a surprise that Arsenal scored, in a game where they looked completely incapable of scoring...that isn't unlucky, it's stupid management. We keep throwing away games and then blamming luck but games we haven't won have always been within our power to win and we've been the ones throwing them away. That isn't luck. We struggle to convert chances and when we do get a lead our manager invites the other team to score a goal.

Pah, if Rashford just shows the inside or pulls back Ox then Arsenal create nothing and nothing is mentioned. It's one small error that could easily have happened with Mata on the pitch too, and then you'd no doubt be questioning why Mourinho didn't bring on someone taller when Arsenal obviously only had one game plan.

 

[Sultan]

I thought Arsenal picked the wrong starting team with our injury problems in defence. Once a winger came on and a proper centre-forward we became unstuck. I've not seen TV replays, but I'm not sure where Blind was hiding as a left back, and Rashford was too weak in stopping the cross.

I thought substitutions were uncalled for when Martial was doing fantastically well stopping any forward runs from Arsenal's right side, and Mata was one of the best players if not the best on the pitch. Disappointed how Morgan has turned into a pointless player for United.

Still, I'm not too down with the performance. I hope Mourinho has learnt a lesson playing Carrick Pogba and Herrera is our best midfield until a replacement for Carrick arrives.

 

[Janson]

Football is a simple game at times.

I think too many are accrediting United with a sound tactical display, perhaps it helps people find some shred of comfort in the fact that we've drawn at home for 3 successive games, scored two goals and are boring to watch ATM.

Whilst I'm not saying Mourinho didn't setup to stifle Arsenal, the idea that they were completely nullified by us based on tactics, seems a little fanciful - given what we know about Arsenal at OT, it's reasonable to assume, they didn't bring their A-Game. Similar to when we went to Liverpool, we know they didn't produce their best.

Mourinho/United should've been braver. Given our defensive frailties, not going for a second goal, saw us drop two points.

Too many on here are losing sight of what's considered good football and a good performance. I don't think we're progressing at the rate people think. We work less and in the main, play worse football (in terms of attacking dynamism) than anyone in the Top 5.

Im not saying it won't come together, just not in the way people are proclaiming.

We're not good to watch. So stop feigning faux-tactical-appreciation and accept that countless other teams are far better going forward, work harder and show a greater appetite week in, week out.

Maybe people aren't letting the result and their emotions prevent them from properly analyzing the game. They were in fact completeley nullified, apart from that one chance from which they scored, they had nothing.

So you are saying we should completeley ignore Arsenals form this year and take their record at ot as some sort of evidence proving they didn't turn up but our play had nothing to do with it? That's laughable. And Liverpool also decided to turn to crap against us after dominating teams left and right, yes that's believable.

And according to your logic, since we are defensively frail, we should go all out attack and leave ourselves even more open at the back?

 

[noodlehair]

Pah, if Rashford just shows the inside or pulls back Ox then Arsenal create nothing and nothing is mentioned. It's one small error that could easily have happened with Mata on the pitch too, and then you'd no doubt be questioning why Mourinho didn't bring on someone taller when Arsenal obviously only had one game plan.

No I wouldn't be questioning that. What did Schneiderllin do exactly when he came on? What was he even supposed to be doing other than standing in the way?

It wasn't just the change it was the way we dropped so far back and had no outlet at all. We're not a fecking pub side. We had control of the game and had enough numbers there to deal with Arsenal.

The only thing putting everyone in defence to stand in the way of things did was create a situation where half our team didn't really have anything specific to do at all. It invited Arsenal to come forward and score a goal and that's what they did. Jose did this a lot in his second spelll at Chelsea too and it often had a similar result. You think being a "tactical genius" that he might learn.

If you're already under the cosh anyway then fair enough, but when you have control of the game, giving that control to the other team is incredibly dumb

 

[Ban]

Ask Wenger that. Ask Klopp that.

Had either side produced their best, we'd have been turned over in the manner than Chelsea turned us over. Our lack of fight after going 1-0 down would've seen to that. To your reference, I'd argue both Liverpool and Arsenal made us look better than we were. Right now, we are not a team who can readily contain free-flowing, high octane opponents for any length of time. Pedestrian-play suits us, they played into our hands by not going for the jugular.

I was speaking more broadly re 'countless' teams - across Europe, you know the level we aspire to be at. We don't work hard enough. Simple as.

As I said either side didn't produce their best partly because we made them look like that.
Your logic is as if Liverpool and Arsenal just decided not to produce their A game and we didn't have anything to do with it. Liverpool just said hell we won't be at our best at home vs United who is in trouble or Arsenal said we won't try to attack them with their makeshift defense.
We don't look good right now or as good as we should be but we're not so bad either. We look out of sorts vs Chelsea and were punished but we looked good yesterday and Arsenal didn't partly cause of that. Arsenal who looked really good up until now and had every reason to try to attack us given we're so fragile right now.
Same with Liverpool who was destroying teams left, right and center. And especially vs their biggest rival they decided not to be at their best without us having anything to do with it.
Strange logic.

 

[Janson]

Ask Wenger that. Ask Klopp that.

Had either side produced their best, we'd have been turned over in the manner than Chelsea turned us over. Our lack of fight after going 1-0 down would've seen to that. To your reference, I'd argue both Liverpool and Arsenal made us look better than we were. Right now, we are not a team who can readily contain free-flowing, high octane opponents for any length of time. Pedestrian-play suits us, they played into our hands by not going for the jugular.

I was speaking more broadly re 'countless' teams - across Europe, you know the level we aspire to be at. We don't work hard enough. Simple as.

Yes Wenger and Klopp will admit they were tactically undone, makes sense.

You constantly use words such as pace, fast, high octane, work hard. Yes, let's just run around fast, work hard and we will be world beaters.

Your whole analasys of a team seems based on those things. To you football is a simple game but it's anything but.

 

[Jacko21]

Maybe people aren't letting the result and their emotions prevent them from properly analyzing the game. They were in fact completeley nullified, apart from that one chance from which they scored, they had nothing.

So you are saying we should completeley ignore Arsenals form this year and take their record at ot as some sort of evidence proving they didn't turn up but our play had nothing to do with it? That's laughable. And Liverpool also decided to turn to crap against us after dominating teams left and right, yes that's believable.

As I said either side didn't produce their best partly because we made them look like that.
Your logic is as if Liverpool and Arsenal just decided not to produce their A game and we didn't have anything to do with it. Liverpool just said hell we won't be at our best at home vs United who is in trouble or Arsenal said we won't try to attack them with their makeshift defense.

You are both missing the point.

Instead of trying to etch out some kind of deeper meaning to these results and professing how tactically proficient we were, just consider that maybe, just maybe, neither Arsenal or Liverpool played to their potential. It is possible you know.

We were 'out of sorts' against Chelsea and were duly dispatched. Arsenal undoubtedly were out of sorts yesterday and we failed to capitalise on that. They have a poor record at OT, would that have played on their mind? - they wouldn't be human if it didn't. Liverpool too have suffered the ignominy of being beaten on their own turf by United for successive seasons - it is reasonable to assume they may have been overly-cautious, especially against a Mourinho side.

I'm okay with looking for the positives in our display, but I feel like you're trying to seek out reasons that may point to our progression, rather than just accepting that okay, Arsenal weren't on it, we didn't capitalise and were far too pedestrian.

We weren't good enough to beat them yesterday, that's just reality. No amount of feigning tactical appreciation will get away from that fact. In a similar way that we weren't good enough against Liverpool, our defence was breached on several occasions and we didn't counter effectively enough to carry out the gameplan to its fullest.

 

[Jacko21]

Yes Wenger and Klopp will admit they were tactically undone, makes sense.

You constantly use words such as pace, fast, high octane, work hard. Yes, let's just run around fast, work hard and we will be world beaters.

Your whole analasys of a team seems based on those things. To you football is a simple game but it's anything but.

I am not saying that though am I? You're are not articulating your counter-points very well.

Do we work hard enough. No, we don't. Do players shirk responsibility? Yes, they do. Would I prefer us to play with something in the way of tempo. Ideally, yes. Because in today's game, it is critical when you are looking to score. We have no tempo.

 

[Wedge]

Whens Bailly back ?

 

[Janson]

I am not saying that though am I? You're are not articulating your counter-points very well.

Do we work hard enough. No, we don't. Do players shirk responsibility? Yes, they do. Would I prefer us to play with something in the way of tempo. Ideally, yes. Because in today's game, it is critical when you are looking to score. We have no tempo.

Yes that is essentially what your saying.
At least that is how it comes of in your posts since every other argument you come up with to support your theory, or rather your agenda of downplaying our performance in this game consists of the things I've mentioned.

 

[Jacko21]

Yes that is essentially what your saying.
At least that is how it comes of in your posts since every other argument you come up with to support your theory, or rather your agenda of downplaying our performance in this game consists of the things I've mentioned.

Don't have an agenda, but rather higher aspirations for what I would deem a good performance.

Presumably then you agree - we don't work hard enough, players do shirk and we are pedestrian...

 

[TheReligion]

Has anyone got any actual evidence that we dropped back after the goal or are we just peddling this as it's an associated myth with Mourinho?

After the goal we carried on pushing for another. If anyone thinks differently I'd suggest you watch again.

Last 5-10 mins Arsenal came on stronger and we did stop playing but that's not necessarily down to Mourinho but the players mentality of wanting to see out the win.

Rashford mistake aside we win the game in a very comfortable fashion. It's that simple.

 

[Ainu]

Has anyone got any actual evidence that we dropped back after the goal or are we just peddling this as it's an associated myth with Mourinho?

After the goal we carried on pushing for another. If anyone thinks differently I'd suggest you watch again.

Last 5-10 mins Arsenal came on stronger and we did stop playing but that's not necessarily down to Mourinho but the players mentality of wanting to see out the win.

Rashford mistake aside we win the game in a very comfortable fashion. It's that simple.

We absolutely didn't drop back after our goal, we kept monopolising the ball until around the final 5 minutes. Subs on both sides around that time changed the game and we went from keeping the ball to casually giving the initiative to Arsenal. It certainly wasn't the case of just Arsenal coming on stronger, because they'd been clueless and couldn't keep the ball up to that point. The shift happened entirely on our side. Whatever triggered that, whether it's just the players or something that's drilled in by Mourinho, it's garbage and the complete opposite of how to see out a game in this situation. When you're one goal up and the opposition is this shit, just pass it around or take it to the corner flag or something. But ffs don't sit back.

 

[TheReligion]

We absolutely didn't drop back after our goal, we kept monopolising the ball until around the final 5 minutes. Subs on both sides around that time changed the game and we went from keeping the ball to casually giving the initiative to Arsenal. It certainly wasn't the case of just Arsenal coming on stronger, because they'd been clueless and couldn't keep the ball up to that point. The shift happened entirely on our side. Whatever triggered that, whether it's just the players or something that's drilled in by Mourinho, it's garbage and the complete opposite of how to see out a game in this situation. When you're one goal up and the opposition is this shit, just pass it around or take it to the corner flag or something. But ffs don't sit back.

I can see why Mourinho brought Mata off as there was an obvious ariel threat presented by Giroud and we needed someone to come on to look at that. He said post game he'd of used Fellaini if he was available and dare I say it had he been I think we see it out easily.

The constant criticism of Mourinho is tiresome.

 

[Ainu]

I can see why Mourinho brought Mata off as there was an obvious ariel threat presented by Giroud and we needed someone to come on to look at that. He said post game he'd of used Fellaini if he was available and dare I say it had he been I think we see it out easily.

The constant criticism of Mourinho is tiresome.

I'm not so sure. When you give that much initiative to the oppossition you can conceed goals from anywhere. We were simply asking for it.

 

[TheReligion]

I'm not so sure. When you give that much initiative to the oppossition you can conceed goals from anywhere. We were simply asking for it.

People make out Arsenal had us under the cosh at the end. They put one cross into the box. That was it.

Would we have been in a better position to deal with a ball into the box with Fellaini? Absolutely.

 

[Ainu]

People make out Arsenal had us under the cosh at the end. They put one cross into the box. That was it.

Would we have been in a better position to deal with a ball into the box with Fellaini? Absolutely.

They put one cross in because they scored at the first attempt. Had they failed they would've continued trying right up until the final second of added time. Would Fellaini have helped against balls into the box? Absolutely. Would we still have been greatly at risk of conceeding? Absolutely.

 

[Catt]

Has anyone got any actual evidence that we dropped back after the goal or are we just peddling this as it's an associated myth with Mourinho?

After the goal we carried on pushing for another. If anyone thinks differently I'd suggest you watch again.

Last 5-10 mins Arsenal came on stronger and we did stop playing but that's not necessarily down to Mourinho but the players mentality of wanting to see out the win.

Rashford mistake aside we win the game in a very comfortable fashion. It's that simple.

Maybe I have to watch again but I don't believe we dropped off after the goal. We kept going for a bit but as mentioned, to dominate a game for 90 + minutes is difficult and Arsenal are a decent side.
Thought Mata had a knock?

 

[royboy16]

Jose sums it up himself, we where pressing great off the ball and great on the ball...... so why suddenly try to park the bus?

Fatigue ?

 

[sunama]

Arsenal had 2 chances, we had 6.

MUFC had 5 shots on target.
AFC had 1 shot on target.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37959760

 

[TheReligion]

Maybe I have to watch again but I don't believe we dropped off after the goal. We kept going for a bit but as mentioned, to dominate a game for 90 + minutes is difficult and Arsenal are a decent side.
Thought Mata had a knock?

Yeah I think he was struggling a bit.

You're right. People just want to moan about Mourinho.

 

[Janson]

Don't have an agenda, but rather higher aspirations for what I would deem a good performance.

Presumably then you agree - we don't work hard enough, players do shirk and we are pedestrian...

Fair enough then, you have high expectations, which are unrealistic imo.

I don't know what your standard is for hard work but I haven't seen any problems in regards to that, especially not in this game. Which imo was our best game of the season tactically. Only one mental slip from Rasford cost us the game in the end.

Pedestrian, at times yes but it's normal. You can't expect high tempo non stop, that's not the way we play.

I just don't understand why you would bring up these things after this game. Some other games where we played badly I agree.

This is my last post of the day, cheers.

 

[Catt]

Yeah I think he was struggling a bit.

You're right. People just want to moan about Mourinho.

In my mind we didn't park the freaking bus at any point y'day.

 

[Fridge chutney]

Why, for speaking the truth? We would have been. We're so mentally fragile.

That's a cop-out. So we are only good when others aren't? Weak argument based on no evidence.

We are not as good as under Ferguson, obviously. But we are much better to watch now than the past 3 seasons.

Should have won handily yesterday. But didn't. Results will come once we find consistency.

 

[SuperiorXI]

I think Mourinho is spot on, we have been the unluckiest team in the league for a while now.