POLL: Would you take Jose Mourinho (if he accepted the job)

Would you take Jose Mourinho as manager if opportunity arose in future?


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If it was so easy to set up that 'Park the bus' tactic, you'd imagine many more managers will be doing it and winning games, the fact is, he's by far the best at doing it.

Mainly because that kind of football is played by teams who are the underdogs and don't have very many good footballers. q

No one is calling him innovative though. He didn't discover (or even refresh a tactic) - like Michels with total football, or Pep with tiki taka - but he implements this defensive football very good. Possibly no-one has done it better before.

Eh? There have been plenty of great defensive sides over the years. Some of the great Italian sides for example.

Mourinho's tactics are simply a polished version of "10 men behind the ball". Something you expect to see when Sunderland or Hull come up with when they play a big side. There is nothing "genius" in it.
 
He's just an arrogant bastard :lol: Win or not, I'm glad he's not our manager. He may be a tactical genius but fecking hell is his football boring. "Game went exactly the way we planned" - jog the feck on. They parked the bus efficiently, and that deserved credit because defending is no easy job - but on another day they'd have been shat on. One goal, and their game plan would have gone out of the window.
 
Eh? There have been plenty of great defensive sides over the years. Some of the great Italian sides for example.

Mourinho's tactics are simply a polished version of "10 men behind the ball". Something you expect to see when Sunderland or Hull come up with when they play a big side. There is nothing "genius" in it.
He has won 8 league titles, and 2 UCL with those tactics. So clearly, they are something different that Sunderland and Hull tactics.
 
I just can't understand that attitude at all. Who wants to support a football team that has a manager who doesn't even try to play good football? feck that. I'd stop watching football if all that mattered was results, may as well just check the score after every game.

And he may not do it every game but he does it way, way more than teams at the level of Chelsea should be doing.
Liverpool fans 2004-2010.
 
He has better footballers to work with.
How many managers who had as good players as him, have Mourinho's record?

Seriously, that is like people who belittle Pep's achievements with Barca cause he had great players.
 
I'm fine with him being defensive. He's entitled to set up his team whatever way he wants, and heck he does get results.

But can we not call him a "tactical genius" and a "mastermind" for coming up with these tactics. Playing 10 men behind the ball and playing on the counter is a tactic that has been used for decades by managers. Every time a Mourinho team does it though, people fawn over him like he's invented the defensive approach.

Yeah that does my head in too. He's a great manager but calling him a tactical genius is a bit of a stretch. Buying top talents from around europe and parking the bus isn't exactly the hardest thing to do(not the easiest either mind) even though it can be very effective. Its such a simple tactic that even works on Football Manager(yeah yeah im guilty lol). A 10 year old could have come up with that honestly. Its a lot harder to win trophies playing quality attractive football and not every manager is capable of doing that, not that they need to anyway. Mourinho has won loads of trophies so good for him. But a tactical genius he is not, not for me.
 
Liverpool fans who had a crush on Rafael Benitez. You know, the manager who might be the only (top) manager who might be as boring as Mourinho (though far less successful).

Plenty of Liverpool fans criticised his style of football, don't let RAWK cloud your judgement.

Rafa's football was never as cautious as Mourinho's, and he never managed teams with the standard of player that Mourinho has had.
 
Plenty of Liverpool fans criticised his style of football, don't let RAWK cloud your judgement.

Rafa's football was never as cautious as Mourinho's, and he never managed teams with the standard of player that Mourinho has had.
He was as defensive as hell though (bar on 2008-2009 when Liverpool were both attacking and good to watch). On Napoli he is quite more attacking though.

Mourinho has been quite attacking on Madrid, and first spell on Chelsea. Not Pep/Wenger attacking, but still attacking and fun to watch. On his second spell at Chelsea he has been Capello-esque though.
 
He was as defensive as hell though (bar on 2008-2009 when Liverpool were both attacking and good to watch). On Napoli he is quite more attacking though.

Mourinho has been quite attacking on Madrid, and first spell on Chelsea. Not Pep/Wenger attacking, but still attacking and fun to watch. On his second spell at Chelsea he has been Capello-esque though.

Mourinho was woefully defensive in his first spell at Chelsea quite often too. Those frequent Liverpool v Chelsea matches under Rafa/Mourinho were some of the worst matches I've ever watched, and that's with me being a Liverpool fan, so god knows how awful neutrals thought they were.
 
Mourinho was woefully defensive in his first spell at Chelsea quite often too. Those frequent Liverpool v Chelsea matches under Rafa/Mourinho were some of the worst matches I've ever watched, and that's with me being a Liverpool fan, so god knows how awful neutrals thought they were.

Yeah, I remember those - pretty terrible.
 
Exactly. And now they want Mourinho and his shit on a stick football. No, thanks.

Yeah the turnaround in opinions(including mine) since the Spurs game has been remarkable. But we were getting results even before then.
 
He was as defensive as hell though (bar on 2008-2009 when Liverpool were both attacking and good to watch). On Napoli he is quite more attacking though.

Mourinho has been quite attacking on Madrid, and first spell on Chelsea. Not Pep/Wenger attacking, but still attacking and fun to watch. On his second spell at Chelsea he has been Capello-esque though.
Yes he was. In 11/12 Madrid hammered the majority of teams both at home and away and set the record for the most points won and goals scored in the league. That was a very attack-minded team. He learnt his lesson from his first year in Spain, that it is very difficult to win games by one goal and that sitting back and defending deep is not safe as most teams can pass the ball very well on the ground and have the quality to open up packed defences so you have to go for it and beat every team by several goals and that is what he did. Madrid won plenty of games that year by three or four goals and conceded lots as well but that was fine as the team pretty much always outscored the opponent. Some of the football in the 11/12 season was absolutely excellent (especially in October, November and February).
 
I use to think I would love Mourinho managing us but I gladly I think that ship has sailed, rubbish football and will be hailed as a tactical genius for having two banks of four in defense.

His football, winning football it may be, is not what we want here
 
Yeah the turnaround in opinions(including mine) since the Spurs game has been remarkable. But we were getting results even before then.
Even Mourinho would get the results. But to play 5 defenders against a broken team which has lost 4 players is shambles, really. Even Big Sam attacked us in the matches against WHU.
 
What would happen if Mourinho played Mourinho? Would it be like Chelsea vs Atletico where Mourinho gets Mourinho'd?
 
What would happen if Mourinho played Mourinho? Would it be like Chelsea vs Atletico where Mourinho gets Mourinho'd?

They'd just agree to a draw and play football like in that Simpsons episode.
 
Never ever, shithouse of a man, win at all costs manager, dirty cheating filthy human being.
 
What would happen if Mourinho played Mourinho? Would it be like Chelsea vs Atletico where Mourinho gets Mourinho'd?
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Final score: 0-0. Entire audience fell asleep after 30 seconds of play.
 
Explains the average atmosphere at the bridge, at least.

I know it's a poll aimed at United fans, so I won't vote myself, but... I really dislike the man. His style of football, while incredibly successful, is about as entertaining as watching someone read a book.

... But I'd still take him at Liverpool.
 
I don’t think this defensive tactic is easy but IMO it has more to do with motivating players and convincing them that this is the right way rather than tactic in a way van Gaal sets up his teams. In that regard Mourinho is a genius.

IMO the reason more teams don’t implement this defensive tactic is because most managers feel that football is about entertainment and they feel the pressure from the fans. I have a feeling that Mourinho at this stage of his career simply doesn’t give a feck. It’s all about results for him. Fair play, he gets those. But I wouldn’t like him to become our manager.

You also need a few special players for it to work (therefore it won’t work for mediocre teams). Hazard and Fabregas was enough this season.
 
Mourinho was woefully defensive in his first spell at Chelsea quite often too. Those frequent Liverpool v Chelsea matches under Rafa/Mourinho were some of the worst matches I've ever watched, and that's with me being a Liverpool fan, so god knows how awful neutrals thought they were.

Untrue, we smashed teams by 4 goals in strings of games in his first spell, things are clouding your judgement.

Also I recall us giving Liverpool a 1-4 beating at Anfield with a Drogba and Essein masterclass. Miles away from what has sometimes happened this season.
 
Untrue, we smashed teams by 4 goals in strings of games in his first spell, things are clouding your judgement.

Also I recall us giving Liverpool a 1-4 beating at Anfield with a Drogba and Essein masterclass. Miles away from what has sometimes happened this season.

Nothing is clouding my judgement, I'm not saying he was defensive every game. He wasn't defensive every game in his first spell and he isn't now, but he is still far more defensive than a Chelsea manager needs to be, there's no excuse for not playing attacking football when you have the resources he's had.
 
If im being entirely honest I dont think Jose has the same trust in this Chelsea team as he did in 2004/05 when He had the best team unit that there has ever been in the EPL. There were weaknesses last season, and whilst they may have been fixed new weaknesses have cropped up this season. I dont think he trusts our defence enough to be as attacking as we could be. Remember we were at the start of the season smashing Everrton 6-3 and Swansea 4-2, but I think 5-3 spurs hit him a bit.
 
Still not, but I don't think the way it's being categorised in this thread is fair. What Mourinho does in these types of games is every bit as skilful and demanding as what, say, Guardiola does. It's arguably cleverer, too, because if you create a team who do it perfectly, I reckon you can guarantee the result more reliably. The 2-0 vs Liverpool last season was so beautifully textbook you could have described it in detail beforehand.

But personally I'm a sucker for possession - even the much vilified 'pointless' possession that some teams have too much of, including us earlier this season. Because ultimately for me it comes down to this: do you want to spend 90 minutes watching your team's players passing the ball, or the other team's players passing the ball. And no matter how many Wigans or Burnleys you attack-attack-attack and thrash, you can be sure that if Mourinho is your boss, you'll spend the big games mostly watching the other team's players on the ball.
 
If im being entirely honest I dont think Jose has the same trust in this Chelsea team as he did in 2004/05 when He had the best team unit that there has ever been in the EPL. There were weaknesses last season, and whilst they may have been fixed new weaknesses have cropped up this season. I dont think he trusts our defence enough to be as attacking as we could be. Remember we were at the start of the season smashing Everrton 6-3 and Swansea 4-2, but I think 5-3 spurs hit him a bit.
More pace in Chelsea's backline would improve them a great deal. It is difficult for them to impose themselves on a lot of games as they have to sit back and defend deep as well as have plenty of protection in front of their back four due to them not being the quickest (Terry in particular). Having quicker defenders would improve them in a lot of ways and would give a lot more freedom to their players in midfield and attack as they would not have to work as hard defensively because the defenders would not be so vulnerable if they are exposed in one on ones against pacey attackers. Also, when your backline is pushed up it makes it easier to control games and to keep the ball and move it around in dangerous areas and quicker defenders will mean Chelsea will not be so susceptible to counter attacks if they play this way even if their defenders are high up the pitch. Ramos and Pepe allowed Madrid to play this way under Mourinho and they were much more attack minded than his Chelsea are and they did not concede control of the game as many times as Chelsea do and were able to take much more risks that resulted in more games and points won.
 
I don’t think this defensive tactic is easy but IMO it has more to do with motivating players and convincing them that this is the right way rather than tactic in a way van Gaal sets up his teams. In that regard Mourinho is a genius.

IMO the reason more teams don’t implement this defensive tactic is because most managers feel that football is about entertainment and they feel the pressure from the fans. I have a feeling that Mourinho at this stage of his career simply doesn’t give a feck. It’s all about results for him. Fair play, he gets those. But I wouldn’t like him to become our manager.

You also need a few special players for it to work (therefore it won’t work for mediocre teams). Hazard and Fabregas was enough this season.

Tbh I think most managers realise that playing attacking football is better for their career.
People will put up with boring football when your winning but the knives come out pretty damn fast when the inevitable dip in form comes.

Personally i dont think Mourinho is that boring, hes kind of hamstrung by his squad in the kind of football he can play atm.
Seeing that defence try and play a high line would be pretty comical i imagine. Their AM aren't having a great season either, you'd expect them to be providing more entertainment really.
 
Ferguson vs Louis van Gaal has produced 20 goals in four games.

Mourinho vs Louis van Gaal has produced 5 goals in three games.
 
All the possession in the world can be fruitless. Possession is a fools errand, only goals count.

Aye. And for the love of Frogie, let's not forget that.

Maureen won. He set up to soak up whatever we threw at 'em, clearly so. And he succeeded with that. We weren't robbed - we lost fair and square. Taking some sort of bizarre moral high ground on the basis of bloody possession stats alone - is just foolish.

Possession and impotence can very clearly go together - we didn't create enough today to escape that possible criticism. Nor did we entertain the feck out of the neutrals with breath taking football - so that aspect should be left out of it too. Anyone who witnessed Bayern's demolition of Barca a couple of years ago should know all too well that you can "dominate" possession and still look like you've been completely outclassed.

Not that we were - outclassed - by any means. I was fairly well pleased with us, all things said and done. We lacked several players and put up a decent fight. Nothing less - but certainly nothing more either.

I reckon things are looking good for us at the moment - and I certainly don't want to swap Aloysius for Maureen (I never wanted Maureen to begin with), but let's not be utterly, scouserly silly about this thing.
 
How many managers who had as good players as him, have Mourinho's record?

Seriously, that is like people who belittle Pep's achievements with Barca cause he had great players.

I actually have never said that he isn't a great manager.

My beef is that he is hailed as a tactical genius when his tactics is nothing different to what has been used over the last few decades.