the very first line under the header pic is 'Rooney continues to thrive on energy...', days after one of the shittest performances in an England shirt he has given
Poll: Is Wayne Rooney past it and should he be sold?
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Mourinho still rates him and would sign him up ...I'm sure of that!
So every summary of a player's career should be based on the most recent friendly he's played in?
Over the season, his form is erratic. If he wants to be the main man, he has to prove that he can perform all season long. He hasn't done it for years. The moment he got into brilliant runs, you just know he'd be back to average/shit in next games. In the past, United best players were capable of performing close to 100% over the season. That's how United were, at least, claiming the king of English league.
Rooney is still a good player, but one I hope we shouldn't rely on to take us back to the great height again.
tell me the last time he turned up against a decent country, and that doesn't mean against SCOTLAND. Rooney has had a great career no doubt but those days are long gone. that article pretty much ends saying lets admire him cos he always puts a shift in
We have a thread like this every fecking year, and he's always first choice regardless.
In last year's World Cup, Ronaldo was the current Balon d'Or winner and his Portugal performances - in a team better than Rooney's England were hardly awe inspiring.
Diego Costa was woeful for Spain.
International form isn't an accurate indicator of a player's quality.
Ronaldo was injured and Rooney was the fittest he has ever been. No excuses, it was billed as his last chance to shine and he couldnt. He was a liability for us against Italy on the left hand side, while Sterling played that game in his position and caused havoc. Next game hodge gave in and bumped sterling out wide again so Rooney could play number 10. missed a sitter I might add
Don't add, as it wasn't a sitter at all.
Rooney played well against Uruguay at the last world cup and how "poor" he was vs Italy while out of position is exaggerated IMO.
I like how the main argument for Rooney still being good is actually not an argument, but a prediction that actually many (even average) strikers could accomplish: "Put him up front for whole season and play good midfielders behind him and he'll score 20 goals".
He was shite at the World Cup, much like the whole England team.
Rooney's importance is not solely based on his goalscoring, he's more than that. Yes he had bad patches, when he's not in form he tends to look like a pub player, but when he is he's undroppable. Still one of our best players and leaders.
we were run ragged on the left hand side, completely exposed Baines whole of the first half. Baines couldnt budge forward. Rooney played better but the team played inferior to the italy game
What is with all this sudden hate for Rooney? Seems to have stemmed from the Ireland game which to be fair was a shit game all round. We'll have no strikers left because it seems our fans want them all gone.
Yep, sure has.
People forget that his pre match build up to that game was a week of holidays
Hardly the game to judge him or any player on really. He was poor as was the other 21 players out there.
I genuinely do believe that with a more balanced midfield, one where he isn't being shoehorned into midfield to cover for an injured Carrick and can settle up front we'll see him hit at least 18-20 goals next season.
Rooney will easily score goals, if we have a midfield balanced, injected with energy, pace and a quicker tempo, he will be a very effective cog. If we dilly dally about like last season, he will look bad. It is hard to score goals, when your midfield consists of fellaini, young, mata, herrera, carrick. If we start playing guys like herrera, depay, di maria, add a couple of stellar CM signings, to go alongside these 3 in a 433, he could easily score 20 next season or more
Yea must've been hard for Charlie Austin playing with that midfield at Rangers too, or Benteke, or Berahino. All of whom outscored him. Or Ulloa, and Ings who scored one less than he did.
Ridiculous.
What do fellaini and young offer in a creative sense? Carrick is always injured, we have no real acceleration in the team, and the current team is not the most creative, just possession based with no end product. If the team is not really creating much, the strikers ain't going to score you 20 or more, are they? ah yes Rooney played DM half the time to fit in the 2 upfront
Unbelieavable.
How is that unbelievable? He scored 14 this season, doubt scoring 6 from his 14 is actually that difficult. And half the time in DM by the way, which is forgotten
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Unbelieavable.
He scored 14 goals this season ffs. Despite spending time as a fecking DM.
Play him up top for a season with a settled, quality midfield behind him and he'll easily give you 20-25 goals.
I could be wrong but you mentioning Fellaini, Young and Carrick as not being good enough probably caused some ill feeling?
To be fair, Fellaini may not of been the most creative but he did help out on the goals front. After Di Maria, Young had the most assists for us last season (5).
But I do agree, a settled midfield and more importantly Rooney settled up front could see him hit 20 goals. Confidence is vital for a forward, he needs to build up his confidence again with run of goals and we'll see the old Rooney return.
I mentioned Carrick because of age, and he is injury prone, so in the grand scheme of things we will need a replacement, that is just reality. Yes fellaini did, but he's good not has a starter every week. Young much like fellaini is more suited to a rotational system, than a starting 11. If we are going to win the league in the next 3 years, we will need much better players than young and fellaini. We start using these guys every week, we will get found out. Now if they are squad players, we have depth and we become a dangerous player
He might, but he also won't hold the ball up or offer any options in behind. Unless you somehow construe that the midfield prevented him from doing those things this season. Fellaini was doing half his work for him.
He will also continue to not control the ball, slow moves down, disappear in big matches and be a red card threat through sheer stupidity and petulance. We can look forward to at least a month where he is the worst player on the pitch.
this is comical and even if it was true than it's not relevant enough, pace is nothing without agility, mobility and actual dribbling ability, Rooney really sucks leading the ball in speed, I'd say he'd be worst after our centerbacks
Yep, that's more than fair.
I agree with Fellaini being a squad player, could be very good as an impact sub for us in the years ahead. Young, I think is worthy of his starting spot at the moment however. It'll be interesting to see if Di Maria goes back into the starting line up come August or will he stick with Young.
Sounds crazy I know but always form over reputation. Di Maria needs to up his game in the Copa America and then in pre season when he comes back.
So will many other strikers around, even average ones. That doesn't prove a thing. Anyway, he hasn't done even that for few years now anyway, and his record this season as a striker has been very poor.
The club posted it, its true.
Na, young is mediocre if he is a week in week out player, which is a good thing depay was signed. Di Maria could be that left sided player to balance off depay in a 3 man attack, either really give di maria another shot, which he could be fantastic if our team becomes more balanced, or sign another wide player, for the money we spent he should get another year. But we are still missing 2 key components in CM to help herrera out. Herrera I find a talented and more creative version of Frank Lampard, while Lampard was good at what he did, herrera could really come to the fold if we have 2 midfielders to his level, and Herrera could really take off even more. Carrick is on Herrera's level, but age and injury's he cannot be relied upon next season.
So if we look at the current midfield and attack, it feels allot like this
----------??-------------
---herrera--??/mata----------
Depay---------Di Maria
--------rooney---------
Could mata be that CM question mark that plays alongside herrera? possibly. It would be fantastic to get that number 6 and number 8, and let herrera be that all round number 10 that links up the 3 man attack going forward, imagine that? a balanced and settled midfield that is built around herrera
I know it's on official page, but they are so for-rooney, may as well want to inflate his praise before selling, Rooney racing wit Smalling or Shaw doesn't make sense he would be ahead of them but they may not need to do any big sprint.. anyway it's misleading
So the official site are making up stats? Yeah, ok.
Just me who's not mislead at all?
What the feck...?
The Rooney hate on here is pathetic. The guy is a nats bollock away from being the clubs all time leading goalscorer and has been a key player for us for over a decade now!
But let's sack the cnut off 'cause he's had a few bad games...
But let's sack the cnut off 'cause he's had a few bad games...
Players maybe are like meat, or horse racers. If they feel they are not good enough, bullet to the head, even though rooney is still a good bet
No other European player has a better technique than Wayne Rooney, he has outstanding qualities. He's a technically good player but also works extremely hard for the team - Lionel Messi
Not even making that up.
Not even making that up.
You know you just can't trust his scoring numbers. The club are so-for Rooney they probably just make up the numbers.
Nice try.