Pogba

[clarkydaz]

If he leaves the UK, nobody (in the English media) will watch him every week. But he will turn up once or twice in the CL and everyone will cream themselves with Jamie Redknapp claiming United were idiots to let him go.

Whereas any reasonable fan will agree Paul isn’t the problem by any means but he is not the solution either.

Time for both club and player to part ways. Thanks for the haircuts and a dozen good performances Paul.

i would look forward to that, as he doesnt do it here

 

[honirelandboy]

Fred is shite, but at least he tries. Pogba and the likes on big contracts think there above sprinting back and other players should be doing it.

 

[Hammondo]

If he leaves the UK, nobody (in the English media) will watch him every week. But he will turn up once or twice in the CL and everyone will cream themselves with Jamie Redknapp claiming United were idiots to let him go.

Whereas any reasonable fan will agree Paul isn’t the problem by any means but he is not the solution either.

Time for both club and player to part ways. Thanks for the haircuts and a dozen good performances Paul.

He's part of the problem.

 

[redmanx]

He's equally to blame for the failure. Has he been consistently good??

He's literally the main signing of this "project" which started years back. Tremendous lack of self awareness by Pogba to act as if he is just a victim/bystander of this club's performances.

He's every bit as disappointing as the others, if not more because of his off the field drama.

But hey, lets blame it all on teammates and previous managers. How convenient!

Every player says "I want to win". Actions speak louder than words.

Has Pogba even been consistently average?

 

[Stookie]

Because, despite popular opinion, Pogba isn't a shit bag.

I mean, sure, everyone has degrees of shit baggery in them, but you'd have to be the lowest of the low to run down your contract only to sign for a league rival. Pogba just wouldn't do it.

Does anyone else think he's capable of doing that?

Yeah, he’d go in a heartbeat. He wouldn’t give two fecks in my opinion. He had no loyalty to United. He’s already said he’s wasted 5 years of his career here without seeing the irony that he was part of the problem. Yeah he’d be off like a rat up a drainpipe.

 

[Random Task]

Yeah, he’d go in a heartbeat. He wouldn’t give two fecks in my opinion. He had no loyalty to United. He’s already said he’s wasted 5 years of his career here without seeing the irony that he was part of the problem. Yeah he’d be off like a rat up a drainpipe.

That statement was taken out of context according to a statement the following day. I'd be inclined to believe that, as twisting a statement to appear as controversial as possible is something the media love to do.

In any case, I think you lot are wrong about Pogba. He knows moving to a league rival would be a dick move. I don't believe for a second he'd do something like that. PSG is his only viable option considering his salary demands.

 

[The Cat]

I don't care where he moves. Just as long as he does.

 

[buchansleftleg]

On one level I sort of see where he is coming from. The club hasn't had a plan for how to use his talents and hasn't invested in building the right midfield options for the club.

However you can also see why the club hasn't been able to create a plan because of his own inconsistencies.

Is he the long term Matic replacement, protecting the defence and spraying long accurate passes?

Is he the destructive midfielder, breaking up play and making simple passes to the creative players?

Is he the midfield maestro, ball glued to his feet, always in space, dinking little passes to unlock defences?

Is he the driving box to box midfielder, always moving, always where the threat is or needs to be?

At various stages he's tried all of these roles and he's been horribly inconsistent in all of them.

For me his most effective role has been that of the midfield maestro, but he was so easy to mark out of the game as he had little or no support and often surrendered possession at the worst possible moment.

I know he has faced a lot of persecution based on his family and religious beliefs, but he has also been a frustration to watch as he has often been lackadaisical, lacking effort and walking around the pitch in a disinterested way.

It's an unfair comparison but I watched the "Robbo" documentary the other day.

He took on all those roles at various points and gave his all. He wasn't surrounded by the greatest of talents, but his sheer will dragged the whole team on at times.

Pogba may say all the right things in team meetings. He may behave like a model professional on the training ground and do all the United foundation stuff for charity etc.

However I can't think of a single game where it looked like he used every inch of heart, muscle and sinew for the team like Robbo did.

Few players would stand upto comparison with Robbo, but Pogba....never even came close.

 

[Hughie77]

Been reading he's injured again. That's nice .

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

Use him as a sub for the rest of our games, unless we are playing shite teams and McT or Matic can be the only D middie.

Goodness I hope goes to PSG and has his fun there.

 

[Hammondo]

On one level I sort of see where he is coming from. The club hasn't had a plan for how to use his talents and hasn't invested in building the right midfield options for the club.

However you can also see why the club hasn't been able to create a plan because of his own inconsistencies.

Is he the long term Matic replacement, protecting the defence and spraying long accurate passes?

Is he the destructive midfielder, breaking up play and making simple passes to the creative players?

Is he the midfield maestro, ball glued to his feet, always in space, dinking little passes to unlock defences?

Is he the driving box to box midfielder, always moving, always where the threat is or needs to be?

At various stages he's tried all of these roles and he's been horribly inconsistent in all of them.

For me his most effective role has been that of the midfield maestro, but he was so easy to mark out of the game as he had little or no support and often surrendered possession at the worst possible moment.

I know he has faced a lot of persecution based on his family and religious beliefs, but he has also been a frustration to watch as he has often been lackadaisical, lacking effort and walking around the pitch in a disinterested way.

It's an unfair comparison but I watched the "Robbo" documentary the other day.

He took on all those roles at various points and gave his all. He wasn't surrounded by the greatest of talents, but his sheer will dragged the whole team on at times.

Pogba may say all the right things in team meetings. He may behave like a model professional on the training ground and do all the United foundation stuff for charity etc.

However I can't think of a single game where it looked like he used every inch of heart, muscle and sinew for the team like Robbo did.

Few players would stand upto comparison with Robbo, but Pogba....never even came close.

I would say midfield maestro is his worst role, because he has never been able to run a game. He is the opposite of that type of player, hes a luxury player after everything else is working and done, he can be put in.

 

[Hugh Jass]

On one level I sort of see where he is coming from. The club hasn't had a plan for how to use his talents and hasn't invested in building the right midfield options for the club.

However you can also see why the club hasn't been able to create a plan because of his own inconsistencies.

Is he the long term Matic replacement, protecting the defence and spraying long accurate passes?

Is he the destructive midfielder, breaking up play and making simple passes to the creative players?

Is he the midfield maestro, ball glued to his feet, always in space, dinking little passes to unlock defences?

Is he the driving box to box midfielder, always moving, always where the threat is or needs to be?

At various stages he's tried all of these roles and he's been horribly inconsistent in all of them.

For me his most effective role has been that of the midfield maestro, but he was so easy to mark out of the game as he had little or no support and often surrendered possession at the worst possible moment.

I know he has faced a lot of persecution based on his family and religious beliefs, but he has also been a frustration to watch as he has often been lackadaisical, lacking effort and walking around the pitch in a disinterested way.

It's an unfair comparison but I watched the "Robbo" documentary the other day.

He took on all those roles at various points and gave his all. He wasn't surrounded by the greatest of talents, but his sheer will dragged the whole team on at times.

Pogba may say all the right things in team meetings. He may behave like a model professional on the training ground and do all the United foundation stuff for charity etc.

However I can't think of a single game where it looked like he used every inch of heart, muscle and sinew for the team like Robbo did.

Few players would stand upto comparison with Robbo, but Pogba....never even came close.

For me he he has a very good pass in him. His vision is exceptional. He just doesnt work hard enough. He is also not very good at retaining the ball, so he gets caught in possession often.

Terrific vision but we only see it once every three or four games.

 

[Albin Johansson]

Mental health is a serious topic and whether Pogba is being truthful or not isn't what I wanna talk about, I am massively disappointed by his lack of self accountability.
Not once did he acknowledge his own shortcomings. It really is time to part ways after this season

Agree to all the above. He is so deep down in the whole narrative of him being the victim, which is always fueled - if not started - by his agent. The man has been offered so many chances to prove himself as a top top player. No one can deny his qualities and raw talent but his consistency is awful and honestly how much of a world class baller are you if you need the whole team to be built around you for you to turn up. Replace him with someone who can put a shift in and have the desire to come back from difficult spells.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

For me he he has a very good pass in him. His vision is exceptional. He just doesnt work hard enough. He is also not very good at retaining the ball, so he gets caught in possession often.

Terrific vision but we only see it once every three or four games.

He excels when he has no defensive responsibility and a strong midfield around him. He is a luxury player in many ways. But in the right team he can also be a match winner.

With us he has been so inconsistent.

 

[united_99]

I honestly couldn’t care less where he ends up as long as he finally leaves. He is so far away from being anything close to a United legend that he can go to Liverpool for all I care (not that they would want him but still).

 

[Gurtej]

He is 29, yes 29…. With his body structure he will lose pace sooner than others …. It’s clear he is already gotten slower since 4 years ago…

Yes he may have one good pass but he has multiple flaws….hopefully club won’t make a mistake to give him a new contract and that too with improved terms… no other club will offer him same or higher wages par PSG…

 

[Foxbatt]

For me he he has a very good pass in him. His vision is exceptional. He just doesnt work hard enough. He is also not very good at retaining the ball, so he gets caught in possession often.

Terrific vision but we only see it once every three or four games.

This is a huge problem with him. You look at the way he positions his body when he is trying to keep the opponent off. It is wrong and that is one of the reasons why he is so easy to tackle. he tries to dribble and then if he loses possession we are under the cosh. When he gets the ball his team mates are normally in position to receive a pass but because he delays it, the space gets blocked. I cannot see if ETH comes he is going to accept players who do not move the ball when other players are in space. It is best for everyone if he goes.

 

[VP89]

Ive never seen a player tested under 3 managers, different systems and different positions, fail to muster considerable consistency in any of them and it still not be his fault according to some sections of the fanbase.

 

[yamo123x]

No surprise he goes away on international duty and again slates the club paying 300k plus a week...a player who allows his agent to publicly ridicule the club, a player who has a poor injury record and takes himself off to Dubai to recover. ...a player who wants to win things but cannot put 2 decent performances in back to back.

I once sang his praises, on his day he is our best midfielder but his day happens 3 times a season...

Hope the club withdraw their contract offer.
Can’t wait for him to leave.

 

[m1tch]

I get nervous about this guy, I feel like he's gonna sign that contract we offered just to spite us all.

 

[Stadjer]

I get nervous about this guy, I feel like he's gonna sign that contract we offered just to spite us all.

I would love to see redcaf that day. Dont think you need to worry one bit though, there is no chance he signs if Manchester United misses the CL. I think he rather signs for less money somewhere else and play CL.

 

[clarkydaz]

I would love to see redcaf that day. Dont think you need to worry one bit though, there is no chance he signs if Manchester United misses the CL. I think he rather signs for less money somewhere else and play CL.

Good job, probably be injured or unable to play 90 minutes anyway

 

[wolvored]

Because, despite popular opinion, Pogba isn't a shit bag.

I mean, sure, everyone has degrees of shit baggery in them, but you'd have to be the lowest of the low to run down your contract only to sign for a league rival. Pogba just wouldn't do it.

Does anyone else think he's capable of doing that?

Yes. I City are the only team to offer him what he wants contract wise, he would go in an heartbeat. Remember who is agent is.

 

[wolvored]

I get nervous about this guy, I feel like he's gonna sign that contract we offered just to spite us all.

He will if its the best offer out there.

 

[DRJosh]

If Pogba flourishes in his new team (whoever he ends up joining) it would be a damning indictment to how we managed him and his role in the squad.

He has been severely underperforming since he arrived but the same could be said of our entire first team squad.

 

[kouroux]

Agree to all the above. He is so deep down in the whole narrative of him being the victim, which is always fueled - if not started - by his agent. The man has been offered so many chances to prove himself as a top top player. No one can deny his qualities and raw talent but his consistency is awful and honestly how much of a world class baller are you if you need the whole team to be built around you for you to turn up. Replace him with someone who can put a shift in and have the desire to come back from difficult spells.

And I said what I said as someone who's always defended him when I felt he was being harshly treated by fans. Every party is to blame for our current struggles, of that I have zero doubt.

I just dislike a player not having the decency to admit that despite all the legitimate issues he mentioned, he could and still should have done much better himself.

 

[devilish]

If Pogba flourishes in his new team (whoever he ends up joining) it would be a damning indictment to how we managed him and his role in the squad.

He has been severely underperforming since he arrived but the same could be said of our entire first team squad.

Pogba and Bruno can't play together and since Pogba love his extended break in the treatment room we couldn't rely on him to be our creative outlet in CM. Whoever insisted in bringing in Pogba and to retain his services after that became pretty obvious should be sacked. That's the reality of it all.

 

[crossy1686]

If Pogba flourishes in his new team (whoever he ends up joining) it would be a damning indictment to how we managed him and his role in the squad.

He has been severely underperforming since he arrived but the same could be said of our entire first team squad.

Yeah I’m confident he won’t, but I’m sure we’ll get posts in here when he has one of his good 10 games of the season.

 

[devilish]

Yeah I’m confident he won’t, but I’m sure we’ll get posts in here when he has one of his good 10 games of the season.

In the right system and in the right league Pogba will flourish. He's not the first elite playmaker to fail in the EPL. JSV did the same.