Pogba: "We Should Attack, Attack, Attack!"

[Cloud7]

Glad that Pogba came out and said this, echoing the feeling of many of the fans, especially after a game where he was the only one trying to make things happen. I’m fairly sure he isn’t the only one who feels like this either.

That is my captain

 

[Cloud7]

Can’t wait for Lukaku to come out and give an interview saying that all we work on in training is attacking drills, it’s the players not executing it properly and he doesn’t understand why Mourinho gets any criticism at all.

 

[MrBest]

Sounds like a dig at Jose and the attackers to me. As much as I want Jose out, most of the blame for the Wolves draw has to be down to the attackers who started. They were awful, no one ran to the ball trying to create space and to move the ball forward. I fully agree with Pogba and his comments, i have slated him in the past but this season he seems like the only player who wants to play and do something. Everyone seems scared. I got slated on Saturday at half time for saying the first half was dreadful. It was and that second half was even worse. We look like a championship side that has just come up. Our squad has some very good players but also some awful ones. Jose has had 3 summer windows now. Fair enough he didn't get the defender he wanted this summer but still, 3 summer windows. Why are we still playing average players like lingard fellaini and Valencia (love this guys attitude but his time is up). Enough is enough, Jose has lost the dressing room, the players ain't playing for him, our best outfield player is making stupid public comments that indirectly insult the manager and the team. What more does Ed need to make a decision, we are turning into a circus. A director of football is badly needed to give us some direction.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

I imagine Delot is going to start on Tuesday in the Cup game. If he has another great game like he did last week then perhaps it's time to let him start in the league as well. He could possibly be able to supply the width that we are missing down the right flank...

 

[LARulz]

Glad that Pogba came out and said this, echoing the feeling of many of the fans, especially after a game where he was the only one trying to make things happen. I’m fairly sure he isn’t the only one who feels like this either.

That is my captain

He was utter trash against Wolves. He kept the ball too long most the time and then lost it, ran into blind ally's for no reason when a pass was on and just in general seemed lethargic. A few cross field balls under no pressure to someone who has half a pitch to themselves is not that impressive.

Nobody stood out Vs Wolves, except your usual Dear Gea but a lot of our build up play was let down by him and defensively the shift he put in, well..... less said the better

 

[Cloud7]

He was utter trash against Wolves. He kept the ball too long most the time and then lost it, ran into blind ally's for no reason when a pass was on and just in general seemed lethargic. A few cross field balls under no pressure to someone who has half a pitch to themselves is not that impressive.

Nobody stood out Vs Wolves, except your usual Dear Gea but a lot of our build up play was let down by him and defensively the shift he put in, well..... less said the better

Utter trash? His assist was something none of our other players can manage. He was the only one making any worthwhile forward passes. Pogba comes under massive criticism on here, and even here most people agreed he had a great game against wolves. If you think he was rubbish then there really isn’t anything for us to talk about here.

 

[Kapardin]

The Sun are turning it into "Pogba launches incredible attack on Mourinho"

He's not having a pop at him, he's just telling the fecking truth!

It is an attack on Mourinho. Obviously subtle, but Pogba seems to be hinting that Jose's tactics are holding him and the team back.

People are happy the media is going to use such quotes to shite on us for full week. Never knew it was that funny to have such poisonous relationship between a manager and a player that early in the season instead of sticking together.

I'm growing tired of this season already and we're in Sep. Shite results and poisonous relationships.

If a manager's doing something wrong, players have the right to voice their disapproval, so long as they don't undermine authority. Pogba admitted the goal was his fault and even said he tries to follow instructions. But he's human and not a mindless drone to simply be a yes-man to Jose.

Similarly, Jose has the right to criticise players' attitudes in public without singling out anyone in particular.

And no, I don't think anyone's happy about the state of affairs. Being 8 points behind Liverpool is no laughing matter.

 

[Patrick08]

We are very good at saying all the right things in the media, but on the pitch absolutely brainless football returns again and again. Pogba, Lukaku, Juan mata (specially), Matic even Jose Mourinho flatters to decive when he talks to the media.

The problem is we don't walk the talk as a team.

Souness has been very critical of Pogba and i agree with some of his comments. He is not always right, but yes many of the accusations against pogba do make a lot of sense.

Just with a instance in last game pogba had ample time and space to pick Sanchez in a great dangerous position one on one with the defender, while all he did was kept the ball too long, tried to beat 3 men with his dribbling, flattering to deceive and just lost the ball in counter press and physical play. Most of the time when there is pressure he just holds the ball too long and then falls down in physical play breaking the momentum of the attack, and it keeps on repeating N number of times in his game. Besides his workrate without the ball and ability to control the midfield is a massive negative point in his game. Any energetic midfielder who is first to the first and second balls beats him for acquiring possession and build a decent attack.


To attack attack attack, Control of the midfield is must which we dont do well at all and Matic absence makes it even worse who seems to be declining as well with his ability to control and break up opposition play, as a result we just Go reactive drop deep with the theory of Control without the ball and invite decent pressure on us with a leaky defense which compounds our problem.

Until and unless the midfield unit does not perform as a collective unit out ability to attack attack attack is just passionate paper talk, because other teams hold the ball well and we don't press or are proactive enough to win possession back in advanced areas and quicken the play so that we can catch opposition off their guard.

It's time for the team to stop talking,. And do their talking on the pitch, also not just at home games but in our general style of play.

 

[Rolaholic]

Funny how similarly Pogba's comments echo Hazard's a few years ago...

Mourinho defence force forming like voltron in this thread, i see.

Can't wait until they leave the club along with their ringleader

 

[Maxin]

It seems inevitable he will leave in the summer. My only question is who the feck do we replace him with? I don't see any option out there that would be an improvement.

Zizou!

 

[Raees]

Clubs sleepwalking into a disastrous season and Pogba can see straight through our situation - that’s why he is wanting out. He knows he’s too good to play at a club that can’t sort it’s shit out.

At a club like Real or Barca, the manager wouldn’t have lasted this long into the season or even started the season after the quality of the football on display last season let alone this and yet we have a board and a strong proportion of the fanbase who lack the footballing education to see it. Woodward’s issue lies in lacking the ruthlessness to pull the gun and backing managers for too long - not in being a slimy cnut who hides behind sacking after sacking. Someone like Perez would be much more ruthless as is needed by a CEO in the modern game.

Individually if left too it, players can make mistakes etc but it’s clear that despite the recent upturn in performances - it was against sides going through bad moments themselves and as soon as a team gave us a game, any semblance of an identifiable playing style or faith in flair players got thrown out of the door and once again the manager resorted to blaming the ‘attitude’ of the players. At what stage will fans realise that this ‘attitude’ excuse is a load of shit and two of the managers favourites and start every game seem so undercoached at times and look the least sharp. Are we to blame that on attitude too?

 

[Fridge chutney]

 

[bosnian_red]

Remember how we didn't want Mourinho back in the day because of how his clubs turn into a circus with constant negative drama? Yeah... Long past that. Pogba's not wrong tbf, though it doesn't take a genius to figure out that being outplayed (let alone just beat) by the likes of Leicester, Brighton, Tottenham, Wolves (3 of those at home) isn't good enough.

 

[redIndianDevil]

It's clearly not just Mourinho's tactics Pogba is highlighting, it's also the shit performances of the players in front of him like Lukaku, Sanchez, Lingard, and the total lack of anything from right back.

You can't simply blame the tactics for how bad Lukaku was against Wolves, for how bad Sanchez has been since arriving, and for how bad Valencia has been in opposition halves for the last 3-4 years.

Where the tactics really comes into it was, for instance, in bringing off Fred to allow Fellaini to go and shadow Lukaku up front. The pair of them and Lingard basically slouched around within 10 yards of each other for the last 30 minutes offering absolutely nothing. It's a pointless strategy in a team with a redundant right flank and an inverted winger on the other side. Meanwhile Pereira and Pogba end up getting overrun in midfield and resort to just hoofing it up aimlessly. As a tactic it has barely ever worked for us and the fact we still persist with it is just fecking baffling for someone of Mourinho's intellect.

Why not? I'm convinced that even if we had Ronaldo in our left wing and Messi through the middle or our right wing, they will struggle to create or score and they will expose our full backs in the current setup. We are buying world class attackers and are making them play like average workhorses. Even Mourinho knows that, that's why he's trying to buy the likes of Willian and Perisic every transfer window(I'm not saying they are average, they both are above average IMO).

 

[redIndianDevil]

He’s not being a leader he’s stirring the pot as he’s had a habit of doing when things aren’t going well. Interviews by players like Lukaku would indicate that they don’t all hate playing for him.

He loves it so much because he is being played every game and our entire way of playing is setup to support him.

 

[Slevs]

Does 'attack attack attack' mean dawdling on the ball until 3 opposition players crowd you out and you lose possession then

He's being instructed to do that move by Mourinho, or something something.

 

[redIndianDevil]

Can’t wait for Lukaku to come out and give an interview saying that all we work on in training is attacking drills, it’s the players not executing it properly and he doesn’t understand why Mourinho gets any criticism at all.

He cannot talk after this game because he is the one who kept breaking down our "attacking moves". He will come out when he scores a goal though.

 

[Sayros]

No misinterpretation here. This one is aimed at the manager

But do you really think Mourinho doesn't want them to attack at home against Wolves? I'm sure that's what he wants, especially since he's noticed the fans actually appreciate that with the Tottenham loss. I'm not a fan of Mourinho by any stretch of the imagination, but I really don't think Pogba is going at him there. I think a manager can only do so much, the rest is up to the players. If this message was for Mourinho, it's also definitely for the rest of the team, especially about the movement up front.

 

[Joseunited]

Just sack the bloody manager.Six games in and it's just a bloody circus with Mourinho blaming the World Cup, the transfer market and his own players but never himself.It wouldn't surprise me if Pogba is the spokesperson for the dressing room.

 

[Canagel]

Well it is the philosophy of Sir Matt and Sir Alex so if we aren't attacking we are betraying the traditions of the club. Not sure anyone can disagree with this. Having the intent to attack is just one part of it. I've seen people praise us for being more positive but that isn't actually attacking football. Attacking football means more chances created and more goals scored. We aren't doing that.

 

[Greck]

But do you really think Mourinho doesn't want them to attack at home against Wolves? I'm sure that's what he wants, especially since he's noticed the fans actually appreciate that with the Tottenham loss. I'm not a fan of Mourinho by any stretch of the imagination, but I really don't think Pogba is going at him there. I think a manager can only do so much, the rest is up to the players. If this message was for Mourinho, it's also definitely for the rest of the team, especially about the movement up front.

Personally think it's a far bigger stretch to read this in its entirety and come away thinking he isn't dropping any fault at the manager's door but yes we attacked Wolves. We got caught trying to kill the game with Fellaini

What I found interesting is he also realises we are static in possession. I think when we attack the players are still expected to maintain shape so we can easily regroup. Even our improved approach in recent weeks has only come in phases. We still drop deep and surrender possession when we're ahead and I can imagine it's not fun for the players to do that because it sure as hell isn't fun to watch. I'd admit the tactical improvement this season is we at least try to kill games off before dropping off and defending the lead

 

[Ashley R1+O]

Breaking: Man who's responsible for the attack says he wants to defy his manager and.. Be responsible for the attack.

The absolute state you've got to be in to be buying into this nonsense. He has the keys to the offence, what else does he need on the football pitch? Mourinho to come out and play for him? This is properly ridiculous to be honest.

He needs to grow up and start accepting some personal responsibility at the very least. The argument gets even more ridiculous because if it took defying the manager on the pitch on match day, then bol up and do it. Lets see it then, if anyone has the licence to do what he likes on the football pitch which "defies the manager, in attacking" surely it is the great Paul Pogba? Lets have it then. I guarantee you won't be dropped for trying harder, pal.

Smh stuff really. The circus is absolutely reeking, my word.

 

[Canagel]

Embrassing. Really embarrassing. There's no excuse for this. Attackers are not pulling their weight in the team. No wonder players like Pogba are frustrated. When your attack is so inconsistent and can't do anything there's no way you can fight for big trophies.

 

[Fracture90]

I don't think this is his way of forcing a move, as Mourinho has said it he never did such thing. I think he wants to be here, win stuff with UTD but he ain't stupid, he knows that won't be the case with Mourinho's tactics especially in this day and age of high pressing, attacking football.

People saying he should be saying these things behind the curtains, who's to say he isn't, he wasn't, but with no effect...

 

[Greck]

I don't think this is his way of forcing a move, as Mourinho has said it he never did such thing. I think he wants to be here, win stuff with UTD but he ain't stupid, he knows that won't be the case with Mourinho's tactics especially in this day and age of high pressing, attacking football.

People saying he should be saying these things behind the curtains, who's to say he isn't, he wasn't, but with no effect...

Same. Don't think he'd (pogba) be trying to trigger change if he was really going. Think he might be trying to force Jose out though

 

[Fracture90]

Same. Don't think he'd be trying to trigger change if he was really going. Think he might be trying to force Jose out though

Yep, for all the "style change" talk, I think the players are realising it's not going to be what them and the fans are expecting.

 

[Fracture90]

Breaking: Man who's responsible for the attack says he wants to defy his manager and.. Be responsible for the attack.

The absolute state you've got to be in to be buying into this nonsense. He has the keys to the offence, what else does he need on the football pitch? Mourinho to come out and play for him? This is properly ridiculous to be honest.

He needs to grow up and start accepting some personal responsibility at the very least. The argument gets even more ridiculous because if it took defying the manager on the pitch on match day, then bol up and do it. Lets see it then, if anyone has the licence to do what he likes on the football pitch which "defies the manager, in attacking" surely it is the great Paul Pogba? Lets have it then. I guarantee you won't be dropped for trying harder, pal.

Smh stuff really. The circus is absolutely reeking, my word.

Read the whole thing, he accepts the responsibility for their equalizer, so he actually is taking responsibility, something we have never, nor will we ever see Mourinho do.

 

[ErranMorad]

Pogba telling it like it is. I guess there is a general frustration within the squad playing these boring tactics. Top players want to express themselves. It's possible to curb your instincts and play disciplined defensive football in a knock-out competition, but in the league you want to go on and play with flair. We hardly trouble the opposition defenses and goal keepers; instead we are busy for the better part of the game "maintaining shape". Our attacking plan late in games involves hoofing the ball towards Fellaini's chest or Lukaku's head. No top player will enjoy those tactics. I guess they are bearable for a while but start to suffocate as time goes on. Hence, the reason Jose's shelf life is so short at top clubs.

Imo, it's the question of when, not if, regarding Jose's departure from the club this season.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

Read the whole comments of him again and yup, he's totally right.

The lack of movements up front is deeply annoying. There's also the issue of urgency. How to dismantle and dominate opposing defence with this two mess.

Attackers being too static.. is it really due to Mourinho's instruction though? Perhaps not enough training drills on attacking.

Anyway, I'm with Paul here. Someone needs to say it, even if he's taking a risk. For United, for United, for United.

 

[Mcking]

Read between the lines lads. That's a blatant hit-out at Mourinho.

 

[Kapardin]

Breaking: Man who's responsible for the attack says he wants to defy his manager and.. Be responsible for the attack.

The absolute state you've got to be in to be buying into this nonsense. He has the keys to the offence, what else does he need on the football pitch? Mourinho to come out and play for him? This is properly ridiculous to be honest.

He needs to grow up and start accepting some personal responsibility at the very least. The argument gets even more ridiculous because if it took defying the manager on the pitch on match day, then bol up and do it. Lets see it then, if anyone has the licence to do what he likes on the football pitch which "defies the manager, in attacking" surely it is the great Paul Pogba? Lets have it then. I guarantee you won't be dropped for trying harder, pal.

Smh stuff really. The circus is absolutely reeking, my word.

He can't do it by himself. He is literally our sole creator and is doing all the donkey work. And it appears as though the manager is the reason for this, going by his statements as he is not blaming the players.

And yes, he did accept responsibility for the goal. I see a lot of home truths in his statements and no ego whatsoever.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Our movement is so bad how does it not bother people? just look at the movement from city and Liverpool this is why they score so many goals because they're constantly pulling the opposition out of position because of their movement. We're too static this is why Pogba hogs the ball as if it belongs to him. Give him some options and he will give you the ball.

 

[Marcky411]

I pray for the day our players start doing their job on the pitch rather than on the media.

Since LVG days we here all the right things from them in the media then comes games and it's the same shite.

I agree with you that players should do the job on the pitch instead of in the media but if these bad, lethargic performances were a one off occurrence then I would blame the player/s. This happens week in week out and it doesn't matter who is setup on the field the tactics and slow dire performances are the same, that tells me that it isn't the players but the manager and they are following the manager's instructions and tactics, if they don't do as he asks they don't play.

 

[Fracture90]

Our movement is so bad how does it not bother people? just look at the movement from city and Liverpool this is why they score so many goals because they're constantly pulling the opposition out of position because of their movement. We're too static this is why Pogba hogs the ball as if it belongs to him. Give him some options and he will give you the ball.

That's because City and Pool's players have attack pattern movements drilled in them by their coaches. If you look at City games, Guardiola goes batshit crazy whenever his team hoofs the ball to relieve pressure.

 

[Dan_F]

Pogba definitely caused the Wolves goal. But maybe if he wasn’t the only player who could beat a man, then he wouldn’t have to try it in the middle of the pitch. Most of the time he will turn his man, or hold on to the ball to free up space for another player, and it’s how we get through a midfield press.
Every time he passes to Lukaku the ball bounces off his feet and goes half way back to Pogba anyway. For what it’s worth I actually thought we weren’t too bad going forward against Wolves, probably an indication of how bad our standards have slipped. But we had so much trouble dealing with their counter.

 

[.Rossi]

Agree with every word he has said...
It is subtle attack, not just on Mourinho but, on the likes of Martial, Lukaku, Lingard.

I don't believe for one split second that Mourinho, his coaches and Michael Carrick are telling the players to be static like robots in the final third. No manager would tell any squad that.
Clear as day that our threat was coming through the middle on Saturday and yet, Lukaku's movement to drag defenders away to create the space was non existent.

Whilst it's looking increasingly unlikely Mourinho is the man to take us further and while it's obvious we're absolutely f**ked football wise with our board and our owners in the short to medium term, perhaps it's maybe time that the vast majority on here now admit that some of the players just aren't good enough to play for this club

 

[Snowjoe]

Mourinho defence force forming like voltron in this thread, i see.

Hardly a defence force going on here, any issues with what pogba is saying is more to do with how he’s going about it rather than what he’s saying.

 

[#07]

A convenient excuse that ignores the fact we did attack Wolves, we were just rubbish at it.

We dominated the ball and the territory but our crossing was trash, take ons were repeatedly failed and in the end we just resorted to punts to Fellaini.

I’m not convinced anything will change after Mou. As I said in another thread we’re about 5-10 years off a title IMO.

 

[MU_Sid]

I pray for the day our players start doing their job on the pitch rather than on the media.

Since LVG days we here all the right things from them in the media then comes games and it's the same shite.

This!

 

[Cassidy]

A convenient excuse that ignores the fact we did attack Wolves, we were just rubbish at it.

We dominated the ball and the territory but our crossing was trash, take ons were repeatedly failed and in the end we just resorted to punts to Fellaini.

I’m not convinced anything will change after Mou. As I said in another thread we’re about 5-10 years off a title IMO.

His dominating the ball isnt attacking. He specifically said we didnt put them in trouble and there was a lack of movement in the front line.

Its just truth. We’re not 5-10 years off a title either.