He offered him to City which is just ridiculous considering he's not in charge of Pogba's transfer and United would never sell him to City. It's pointless to take it serious.
There's more correlation to his relationship with Mourinho.
Pogba told the club he wants to leave
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There's more correlation to his relationship with Mourinho.
The thing is, Barcelona aren't going to put up with his nor his agents crap either.
Well that's fair enough really, can't argue much with that assessment though I obviously disagree with some elements. It's a massive cliché but I genuinely think this club needs players who are hundred percent commited and I very much doubt Paul cares that much about this club. Illustrated by leaving us once before in combination with the current turmoil which pretty much started with Guardiola coming out with Raiola offering Pogba, which is very typical.
Pogba's recent comments in the media, so both the 'I can't talk or I'm being fined' and this week's sly dig at the manager have been very conveniently 'unlucky' and awfully similar to what for example Justin Kluivert pulled at Ajax this summer, and I've seen stuff like this tens of times with Raiola clients. Of course I also understand his choices and behaviour from his point of view. But as a fan of this club I would say that leaving us at such a young age instead of fighting for a place shows what he's about, and now again angling for his big move to Spain, taking shots at our manager, while the team is genuinely struggling doesn't speak in his favour.
Same with an interview like this in the summer:
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...france-star-paul-pogba-looking-impress-russia
"Long live Pogworld! Before he leaves, he is congratulated on not going after Mourinho. Pogba smiles. Russia is the canvas he needs. He's got to remind people that his vision of himself is more powerful than anyone else's.
He doesn't need to rip Mourinho.
"Not yet," he says.
I mean what the feck is that shite?
PSG in 2022 and another big payday for Raiola.
I'm curious as to how anyone can think that Pogba loves Man Utd. I see no reason to think so.
It's ironic Pogba ranting about "attack attack attack" when France won the WC playing a defensive style that would make us look like a super attacking team 
The foundation of modern football sadly. Image of self before club.
It's ironic Pogba ranting about "attack attack attack" when France won the WC playing a defensive style that would make us look like a super attacking team
It's not ironic because clubs have far more freedom in the way they build a roster and follow a mentality, they are not limited to a nationality and they have far more time to build something.
We have to trust him as he's the manager of the club.no the feck we don't. so not enough top drawer performances from pogba? but enough from jose for you to say we trust him?
Surely?
He needs our support and no matter how crap it is sometimes we need to be behind him as I don't think I could take another sacking and another manager.
True. Let’s build it around Alexis or Lukaku instead. Yahhhhhhh
France National team has way more talent than our current Man Utd side. By miles!
It's not about talent but the players' profiles. Remember that France had a lot of injured players and players out of form because they were coming back from injuries. Lemar, Mendy, Coman, Sidibé, Dembélé. And most importantly France doesn't have a single game manager, playing counter attack is the easiest and most logical tactic and we can't really go and purchase the player that we are missing.
I wish.
Jose isn't doing too well right now, but Pogba is basically making out as if he is bigger than the club.
If he wants to leave, he needs to be out in January.
If he wants to leave, he needs to be out in January.
The truth is that Sir Alex left this club in complete shambles with an aging squad. It's been non-stop circus since he left.
True or not, it is for the best if he leaves.
This season is going to be even more ugly if Pogba starts being benched again.
We've already seen what Pogba can do under a competent manager (see Allegri).
This news means its obviously time to move on from Mourinho.
No reason to delay the inevitable at this point, sack Jose and bring in a DOF and Zidane.
This news means its obviously time to move on from Mourinho.
No reason to delay the inevitable at this point, sack Jose and bring in a DOF and Zidane.
Let him go. Let his new club buy out his contract and let him sit in the stands till jan. sick of reading about this cnut. I don’t care how much of a bell end jose might be, Pogba needs to keep his shit behind closed doors. This fight in the media does nothing but destabilise the club.
You lot are so naive if you think pogba genuinely wants a move because of us being defensive.
He knows jose position is on a brink and he plays you lot like a violin.
Just like martial and how his supporters says he's better move on for his career. We're united supporter first, incase you forget.
He knows jose position is on a brink and he plays you lot like a violin.
Just like martial and how his supporters says he's better move on for his career. We're united supporter first, incase you forget.
Pogba wants rid of Jose even more than we do.
A shambles that dominated the PL that year....sure
I wouldn't trust the board to give Jose the money to spend regardless.
how about not putting anyone on a pedestal, because United doesn't have a single player is good enough for that?Over the last few years the managers and the fans seem to hope, that a single transfer can fix all the deficiencies and carry the team. Messi can do that, but Pogba is no Messi. Pogba is never ever going to run the show neither as central midfielder who is controling games nor as offensive midfielder, who carries the creative burden.
I agree with you but I'm totally in the dark when it comes to understand the true reasons. I said it a few months ago that in France among reliable journos the talk has been that Pogba and Mourinho can't stand each others but no one has ever said why, it was also reported that he doesn't want to leave United. When you put two and two together it means that he wants Mourinho out which would explain some of the comments but I still don't know what happened.
Of course the money part needs to be considered too but it seems that the main issue is between player and manager.
Finally a bit of good news if Pogba is going.
Where was the structure to build on and work from? Nowhere to be seen.
Pogba is more valuable then an aging Jose to this club.
What Pogba has said isn't wrong, we do want to attack. Jose is failing and he's trying to control the situation, but who's going to be easier to replace?
There isn't many Pogba's in the world, but I can think of 10 coaches I'd happily take over Jose right now. I feel Woodward will agree.
What Pogba has said isn't wrong, we do want to attack. Jose is failing and he's trying to control the situation, but who's going to be easier to replace?
There isn't many Pogba's in the world, but I can think of 10 coaches I'd happily take over Jose right now. I feel Woodward will agree.
Can't really understand being happy that our best outfield player wants out (I don't think he does really, he just wants Jose gone)
Catch 22. If Pogba was going, Jose would still have to hang on till January, but he can't do that without a performing Pogba
Lot of hate for this guy going on now, as if he's a permanently caned Balotelli with an A level.
Wrong. The best thing they can do is to sell him. To us
There is a video on SkySports with Pogba and Jose in training this morning having a few 'words'. It does not look good
Especially with Zizou's hoodoo powers over the champions league
Watch them finish second in the group, draw Galatasaray in the rd16, Ajax who somehow sneaked in the QF, Slapstick Bayern in the SF, and then they beat Atletico in the final on penalties, in their own stadium
Pogba is a fecking weirdo, sadly. Fantastic talent but such a weird ass person and i don't think he'll ever fulfil his real potential. At least not here, because he doesn't think we're worth being given that gift. Pretty sure thats the case. I agree with the guy above who said he is playing ya'll like a fiddle, as he doesn't care about attacking or not he just doesn't want to be here and is using our situation to justify his desire to leave. Which is weird as feck because he could well have used that energy to carry the team and it would help our situation, instead he just acts like an asshole making a circus. Can't say I care much for all this Disney world drama
If Pogba wants to leave so badly he should officially hand in a transfer request rather than just trying to force us to sell by constantly undermining the manager and the club .
But of course that would affect his and his agents slice of the transfer fee.
He’s a disgrace
But of course that would affect his and his agents slice of the transfer fee.
He’s a disgrace
Don't forget lads, this is all a made up media narrative as the media all detest United. Well, so say RedCafe anyway.
Pogba is the only world class outfield player we have or have had since RVP.
However bad we are with him (and we are), we would be a degree worse without him.
Pogba's attitude isn't the disease here, it's the symptom of the disease.
Mou is the disease here.
However bad we are with him (and we are), we would be a degree worse without him.
Pogba's attitude isn't the disease here, it's the symptom of the disease.
Mou is the disease here.
I do genuinely believe that Pogba loves United, but his relationship with Mourinho is untenable.
The club seem to be sticking with Mourinho though, but in order for us to move on - something has to give, at least 1 of them needs to go.
The club seem to be sticking with Mourinho though, but in order for us to move on - something has to give, at least 1 of them needs to go.
Blind faith will only lead you down a precipice.
"we have to trust him as he's the manager". The recent trend is that we have handed that position to inept people. Committing to someone just because they hold the title of manager, despite not producing the goods, is a fool's errand. He has had time and substantial expenditure yet the team lacks basic competence. These are players he brought in, these are players he coaches on a daily basis. Its his responsibility. Rival teams that appointed new managers more or less around the same time we did are thriving and/or, at the very least, have a positive and readily recognisable style of play. We aren't even cohesive.
People are tripping over themselves to blame the squad and executives etc when the explanation could just be that the manager is simply just not good enough any more. Mourinho ended up here after being sacked for having Chelsea as 16th on the table, that doesn't just happen by accident.
"i don't think i could take another sacking". You shouldn't acclimatise to a mediocre situation all because of fear of the unknown.