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No we werent. Unless you believed we actually were great vs Stoke, Swansea, Leicester over 90 mins. Which we werent, we finished the game brilliantly in the last 20 mins when they were looking for a goal, but no we werent great. We had similar or better performances vs Basel, CSKA, Crystal Palace, Burton, Everton after he got injured. So its no biased argument or anything. We just havent been great altogether performance wise but we are being very clinical and are playing from an excellent defensive organisation.

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No we werent. Unless you believed we actually were great vs Stoke, Swansea, Leicester over 90 mins. Which we werent, we finished the game brilliantly in the last 20 mins when they were looking for a goal, but no we werent great. We had similar or better performances vs Basel, CSKA, Crystal Palace, Burton, Everton after he got injured. So its no biased argument or anything. We just havent been great altogether performance wise but we are being very clinical and are playing from an excellent defensive organisation.

Admittedly we were excellent vs West Ham and so was Pogba.

Sorry I have watched all our matches this season, result-wise we are doing good for few matches after he was injured, but performance-wise i think we were pretty bad overall.
 
Pogba happens to be tall but his style of play is very far from being a 'big annoying bastard'...

The guy has legs like telescopes and is built like a brick outhouse. His break up play in the opponent's half is a really important part of his game, I'd say. Ditto Fellaini, though he's not as good at it. Very much not what what Herrara does though.

Which is not to say that's the end of his talent. Anything but. It's the part of his game that unbalances the side most when he's not there though.
 
The guy has legs like telescopes and is built like a brick outhouse. His break up play in the opponent's half is a really important part of his game, I'd say. Ditto Fellaini, though he's not as good at it. Very much not what what Herrara does though.

Which is not to say that's the end of his talent. Anything but. It's the part of his game that unbalances the side most when he's not there though.
I'd say he's much more important to us offensively than defensively...
 
I find it strange he's still in USA all this time. If he's close to return he should return to Carrington soon and join the training. If this didn't happen before Swansea game I'll start to get a bit worried
 
Nothing has come through the middle without him. When I picture our goals pre injury it seems everything cut through the middle.
Now its all wingplay. Lukaku etc waiting for crosses.
It isnt a coincidence that Martials and Rashfords goals have dried up without him, they don't have the little throughballs to run onto.
Hell Mkhi has fallen off a cliff since he has to come deeper for the ball.
Unless it is a big old coincidence
 
I find it strange he's still in USA all this time. If he's close to return he should return to Carrington soon and join the training. If this didn't happen before Swansea game I'll start to get a bit worried

yet, in his videos on Instagram he's doing sprints, running... Looks like he should be ok to train at Carrington, or at least do some physical training here. It's weird.
 
Maybe his running style etc is being assessed before we play him again?
I would love to know who he's training under out there, it has to be some sort of specialists.
 
I find it strange he's still in USA all this time. If he's close to return he should return to Carrington soon and join the training. If this didn't happen before Swansea game I'll start to get a bit worried
That was clearly what Mourinho was complaining about, what the hell is he doing there!
 
Maybe his running style etc is being assessed before we play him again?
I would love to know who he's training under out there, it has to be some sort of specialists.

Yeah, that was what I was alluding to. Dismissed it as tabloid bollox but if they’re trying to makeover his running style that would explain why he’s still in the states doing loads of sprints yet not able to do any ballwork back at Carrington.
 
Did Mourinho say he doesn't know when he's coming back from injury or he doesn't know when he's back from America?
 
He can't start or even play vs Spurs if he doesn't play vs Swansea. Would be risky given the expected intesity of the game.
 
Is there any logical reason for him to not be in Manchester other than because he wants to fart around somewhere with nicer weather?
 
Looks like pogba is a law unto himself. I find it bizarre that Jose is so in the dark regarding his star signings fitness status and when he is due back from usa . Hopefully them rumours of a rift are unfounded.
 
As per the speculation above, he might be seeing some sort of biomechanic specialist to see if they can find a way to avoid recurrence.
Sorry, having not seen the tabloids im not sure what this speculation is. Piecing together what youve said it seems like there was a suggestion his style of running may contribute to recurring hamstrung issues? So the idea is maybe he is in the US learning how to run in a way that puts less pressure on his muscles?
 
Is there any logical reason for him to not be in Manchester other than because he wants to fart around somewhere with nicer weather?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/world_olympic_dreams/9412228.stm

One of the greatest fears for any athlete is the risk of injury. Warm weather makes muscular injuries like strains and tears less likely since warm muscles are much more pliable than cold muscles. Cold muscles tend to tighten and constrict.

Researchers have found that this increased pliability, particularly in sprinting events, means that athletes are normally able to run faster and take longer strides on, for example, a track in 24C Lanzarote than on a track in 4C London.

Also, consider this. You are leading up to a competition in very hot place. The body's systems take time to adapt to such 'heat-stress' - this adaptation is known as heat acclimatisation. What better way to do this than to go to a warm weather training camp in advance of the event.

For the 2008 Beijing Games, the British Olympic Association (BOA) chose a small island near Hong Kong in the same time zone to help athletes prepare to compete in these conditions.

There is one further physiological point to consider but it also links to psychology: the sunshine. Elite athletes are wary of taking additional vitamin supplements unless they are 100% confident that the contents are safe and legal for them to use.

Vitamin D is produced in response to exposure to sunshine and it is proven that vitamin D deficiency can have a negative impact on sports performance and injury risk. So rather than taking pills, obtaining Vitamin D naturally, with warm weather training, plus the added feel-good factor of having the sun on your back is very attractive.

Quite simply sunshine makes us feel better and this has been scientifically proven through the acceptance of the condition Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) - the form of depression experienced in the winter months.
 
Sorry, having not seen the tabloids im not sure what this speculation is. Piecing together what youve said it seems like there was a suggestion his style of running may contribute to recurring hamstrung issues? So the idea is maybe he is in the US learning how to run in a way that puts less pressure on his muscles?

Yup. Originally popped up in this article.
 
Sorry, having not seen the tabloids im not sure what this speculation is. Piecing together what youve said it seems like there was a suggestion his style of running may contribute to recurring hamstrung issues? So the idea is maybe he is in the US learning how to run in a way that puts less pressure on his muscles?

That’s not going to happen as soon as he’s tired he’s going to revert back to type. I think he will be seeing a biomechanics specialist over there like Sean Allan or Kevin Kirby. But running form changes in a footballer very unlikely to happen.
 
I'm no expert, but I'd be amazed if a natural running style is something that could be changed in a matter of weeks.
 
That’s not going to happen as soon as he’s tired he’s going to revert back to type. I think he will be seeing a biomechanics specialist over there like Sean Allan or Kevin Kirby. But running form changes in a footballer very unlikely to happen.

I agree , running is too natural and instinctive a thing, golf swings and the likes are different, you can gather your thoughts before you perform them & even then they are very difficult to change, it can take long periods of time before feeling anything like natural.
 
Makes me laugh that people who claim to know about football can't see that Pogba is clearly on another level to anyone else in the side.

Has he been on another level to Matic this season? He's got more potential but maybe he is not quite there yet.
 
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