Eriksen is class. He equalled Beckham's assist record today, 4 seasons in a row with 10 or more assists, ordinary players don't do that.
Pogba Future
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Eriksen is class. He equalled Beckham's assist record today, 4 seasons in a row with 10 or more assists, ordinary players don't do that.
Damn, it's quite interesting seeing how comfortable some folks are with the idea of him leaving. I don't think he'll finish his career here but the idea of him leaving right now leaves me slightly depressed. I'd sell Dear Gea before Pogba is how much I value the lad. Maybe Pogba is easier to replace than I believe, maybe I've bought into the hype a bit too much I'll grant you that
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While running the most in the league, being good with both feet, versatile in positions he can play etc.
Mind, I want to keep Pogba. I would still be super happy if we got Eriksen. I could even get my name on the shirt.
Send me on the link where he wanted away last summer there if you don’t mind.
Can you send me any link please where he “clearly wants to go “?
Also send me on a link where we’ve offered a renewal please.
The Sun newspaper doesn’t suffice.
I’d sell.
We’ve got a young hungry team ready to perform under Solskjaer and my gut feeling is Pogba will hold that back by constantly flirting with the exit door
We’ve got a young hungry team ready to perform under Solskjaer and my gut feeling is Pogba will hold that back by constantly flirting with the exit door
If he is seriously agitating for a move (and judging by his comments about ole I would be surprised if this was the case) then i would let him go. I just doubt Madrid's interest here is concrete. Pogba was a world record fee 3 seasons ago and is now a World Cup winner about to hit his peak years and a contract that would run to 2021 when the option is activated. I don't see United selling for less than £150 mil.
Well, Guillem Balague says RM aren't moving for him this summer so I guess it's off then eh?
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He will sign a new contract on an absolutely enormous salary.
at least the manager has some sense
Ole is a boss when talking to the media. Actually even before he took over he was quoted as wanting to build the team around Paul. a big blow to the detractors wishing for his sale.
Zidane is the one manager who Perez could not emasculate. The key to Zidane's success the first time round was literally following Benitez' preferred tactic of playing Casemiro as the anchor. The difference was, Perez couldn't force Zidane to do otherwise like he did to Benitez. When Benitez did play to Perez' tune, it had disastrous results (like the El Clasico).
So while I don't doubt Zidane wanted more say in incomings and outgoings, the fact that the budget potentially is much, much more substantial is a much bigger point to him coming back than anything else. Just look at last summer for example, since when would Real have signed Mariano as their new no.7 after Ronaldo left? The desperation of the situation has caused Perez to relent and leverage more money than he wanted to for this rebuild (due to the stadium renovation), and in the process opened the door for Zidane to come back.
But Real Madrid's propaganda paper say he's gonna leave this summer! Let's abuse him while he's still here...
Just trying to highlight how dumb some of the fanbase sound eating up every clickbait headline over the manager's own words...
It's not clickbait when it's direct quotes from Pogba and Zidane though.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he'll leave this summer, maybe not even the next, but he isn't reliable long-term. He proved that when he left. Which is why I find the hero worship of him on here weird.
I actually do think we need a major overhaul but that's expecting bit much. Meanwhile, here's what fergie had to say about Pogba:
“Pogba signed for Juventus a long time ago as far as we’re aware,” the manager told MUTV at the time. “It’s a bit disappointing because I don’t think he showed us any respect at all. To be honest, if they carry on that way, I’m quite happy that he’s away, from me, anyway.”
true but here is what fergie had to say about him:
“Pogba signed for Juventus a long time ago as far as we’re aware,” the manager told MUTV at the time. “It’s a bit disappointing because I don’t think he showed us any respect at all. To be honest, if they carry on that way, I’m quite happy that he’s away, from me, anyway.”
and here is fergie's repsonse:
“Pogba signed for Juventus a long time ago as far as we’re aware,” the manager told MUTV at the time. “It’s a bit disappointing because I don’t think he showed us any respect at all. To be honest, if they carry on that way, I’m quite happy that he’s away, from me, anyway.”
Which is still very much different from what you said. Fergie not liking how Pogba handled things is quite different from saying Fergie got rid of him or that he didn't think he was United quality.
Anyhow, a 19 year old Pogba made a difficult and brave choice, which proved correct. Well done to him.
So he didn't sell him or got rid of him. He tried everything to retain him but was disappointed as he left.
Completely different from what you said.
That's the case with just about and potential WC player with ambition at most non Spanish top sides,the best players want to win trophies. There was nothing malicious in his comments to french press, Zidane is a French icon with one of the most impressive CV's in football. Ole said as much
It's not hard to understand nor should it make anyone bitter given the reality of where we're at in the grand scheme of things post Fergie...
I don't know what you call hero worship when he doesn't even have his own chant, gets slated each time he doesn't drop an 8/10 and many fans seem to be unbothered if he left (in for a ride awakening if they think the club will replace him easily). I'd argue it's quite the contrary of 'hero worship' which is rather strange for a clubs talisman. The fans who tend to give him the benefit of the doubt seem to be in the minority.
De Gea was a stones throw away from actually joining Real and he has yet to sign a new deal as it winds down yet we don't see anywhere near the same sort of rancor aimed at him. Same for Herrera and his potential exit this summer but they're afforded some leeway by most and a level of understanding that Pogba isn't for whatever reason (inb4 'but but his hair/dances, feck him for how he likes to enjoy life!')
This isn't about Zidane's tactics or anything related to that. We're talking about you saying he ran from a rebuild job, whilst some of us don't believe that to be the case. Take for example that DDG fits the galactico profile Perez loves, but we know it well that Zidane was against that move because he favoured Navas.
Zidane could have had the same amount of money for transfers from PSG and arguably us, but he decided to go back to Madrid. Besides under Zidane, Madrid wasn't going after Galactios, he barely spent any money, hence why he's got a huge budget now.
You were talking about Zidane not having enough power or sway in the club, which is what I'm arguing against. The tactics etc were an example of the power that Zidane had. He had more power than any other manager before or since Perez initiated the Galacticos era the first time round. Certainly more than Del Bosque did in 2003.
The DDG non-move is another great example of Zidane's power at the club also. Zidane was going to have the same amount of money for the rebuild as Utd and Juve if he stayed last summer - compare the outlays for both teams during that period. Whereas this summer, instead of it being c.£150mish, it's more likely going to be £250m-350m. Notice the difference?
The reason he left was because at the time he wasn't going to have the funds to go all out in the market. The dire straits that they're now in, has caused Perez to run a big risk and release more funds than he wanted to, in light of the stadium rebuild. It's really not that difficult to grasp.
I want Pogba to stay and feel he's crucial to the future but if he wants to leave I don't think there will be much Ole or the club will be able to do about it. Player power prevails.
Shame Bryan Robson didn't do the same hey?
He’s staying
Drama queens
Drama queens
If Pogba leaves and we would for example instead bring in Veratti,Rabiot(free) and Ndombele + nailing Rashford to long term deal would that perhaps give us a better team?
Add to that Wan Bissaka RB, Sancho RW and Koulibaly CB and on paper we would look a whole lot better at least.
I like Pogba when he´s giving his all but during the Mourinho area(much to fault of Mourinho also) he was not having impact on games and looked really sluggish. He´s been a bit to his old ways in the past few games and the same applies to him as to every other highly talented footballer, you have to do the basic work as close to 100% each game and by that I mean defending, covering your ground, pressing your opponent. None of the midfield 3 against Watford can say they did the basic groundwork right needed to win every game.
Add to that Wan Bissaka RB, Sancho RW and Koulibaly CB and on paper we would look a whole lot better at least.
I like Pogba when he´s giving his all but during the Mourinho area(much to fault of Mourinho also) he was not having impact on games and looked really sluggish. He´s been a bit to his old ways in the past few games and the same applies to him as to every other highly talented footballer, you have to do the basic work as close to 100% each game and by that I mean defending, covering your ground, pressing your opponent. None of the midfield 3 against Watford can say they did the basic groundwork right needed to win every game.
Well one of the biggest reasons he left, was because Perez decided to sell Ronaldo despite Zidane' protest and he wanted Zidane to make Bale the new face of Madrid. Perez wanted to control Zidane the way he did with his previous managers and Zidane was having none of that. That puts our argument to rest.
How is Bryan Robson anywhere related to the topic of discussion?
Go on then, take a bow.
That said him and balotelli are much cooler with all black hair, hopefully one day they see that.
Well, he is way overrated, actually shit and souness is completely right about the fact we won't win with him in the middle.
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Yeah on paper. In reality we won't buy all those players.
Are we always going to have this problem with this player?
If Pogba goes to Madrid why get Koulibaly when we could possibly demand Varane in any deal?
How do you think football works? Have you heard of playmakers, destroyers, box to box midfielders? Do they do the same things at the same frequency? No. Do they have the same responsibilities? No. There are roles. The squad is way off from a league winning side in terms of quality and that has nothing to do with Pogba. You legitimately need 7 different starters from the 11 that faced Watford. You need replacements for Smalling, Jones, Young, Matic, Herrera and Mata.
But I can't really take anything in your post seriously when you're talking up Rabiot (the problem child) as a replacement.
Perhaps, but a potential Pogba fee would go a long way to fund the midfield purchases. The 3 other players would be off similar cost as expected we would spend on new signings this coming summer. If I look at the starting 11 today only De Gea,Lindelof,Shaw,Pogba,Martial,Rashford are nailed on starters in a new team for me with Lukaku,Herrera,Lingard,Fred,McTominay,Smalling,Jones as squad members and if Pogba leaves we need a new midfield.
Bailly,Rojo, Young,Matic,Pereira,Mata should be moved on alongside Valencia(leaving). I do not see Man Utd signing up to 6 new players as a problem but a simple fact we have to face. IF we manage to do that right this time around plus giving Garner,Gomes,Chong,Greenwood,Laird,O´Connor a chance to stake their claim I do not worry about the future. But what worries me most is the lack of a leader in defence plus our midfield as a unit is slow an lacking better passers of the ball. Seeing Veratti playing at Old Trafford was a joy to behold as he is exactly the midfielder we are lacking. Going all out for Rabiot is also a no brainer at least for those that have seen him play.
He is a great footballer just not a very mature human beign. Doesn't seem to have the drive for every game week in week out. Having said that I do excpect him to be up for it against Barca
Are you serious? Rabiot the problem child? Do you really site with PSG and their behaviour? Tuchel wanted to play Rabiot but was denied that by the Qatar owners because they wanted to bend Rabiot to accept their new deal. So why are they trying to get this problem child to sign then? We at least agree with the need to upgrade the squad.
This is the problem I have with players "flirting" with other teams. Just say, "I'm not interested in talking about [insert team name]. I am a Manchester United player." No drama, nobody offended.
But but but... you never know in the future maybe!
It's pretty obvious his head has been turned, and the French connection is also a factor. There is no club loyalty in football anymore and footballers are itinerant creatures by nature.