We'll see.
Pogba Future
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We'll see.
Zidane did well to win a trio of European Cups, but he did have a prime Real Madrid team with Ronaldo and Modric in their pomp. And Bale as a backup! And don't forget two of the worlds best centre backs.
Their spine has been incredible.
We'll see what?
Lets wait 'til next season before spouting rude, dismissive reactions to those daring to question the decision making of the Glazers / Woodward.
It might very well be that by, say, October, the sentiment of my post is shared by the majority of Utd fans.
And if you disagree with something, try stating why, rather than the usual, and pathetic 'cringeworthy', or 'embarrassing' type rubbish.
It appears that Real are now announcing a major rebuild - like we need. We are both mega rich clubs.
They are immediately sounding the war horn - have brought in a 3 times CL winner, and are already ruffling the feathers of major, World class players.
I would bet that their rebuild will be done with serious intent, and will result in trophies.
We have employed a manager that wouldn't get a look in at any other top 6 PL club, The Gazers / Woodward are now backtracking on DoF, we are handing new contracts to the likes of Jones, Young, Smalling, and are not visibly making any transfer moves of note.
Making transfer moves? It's March. And we have been linked already with more players than the likes of City, Liverpool or anyone else in the league for that matter. Lots of talk of Rice, Sancho, Koulibaly, etc. Let's see who actually signs who.
Its the biggest club in football with a legendary french player as manager. We cant blame him if he wants to go to there.
If we want him to stay we should be doing everything to provide the conditions/players for him to win championships here.
I would bite their hand off for 125 mill.
Well said, I agree 100%. Mind you there are plenty on here who think the sun shines out of his backside.
A £170million for Pogba?? No look please just for a minute if you were looking for a top class midfielder and have been keeping tabs on him over the past six months would you honestly fork out £100 million+?
I know I wouldn’t let alone £170million, I’m sorry but you really do need to look at Pogba from a neutrals points of view. Juventus must have pissed themselves when we came knocking. Pissed themselves laughing that is.
he can feck right off. not United quality or class. SAF knew this years ago and go rid of him.. or are people going to argue with SAF's record?
He didn't get rid of him. Pogba wouldn't sign a new contract.
If we sell him we are back to square one, we need to attract more players of his calibre and not sell the few we have.
The problem we have under the glazers is...
Just say we sell pogba for say 150 million it won be added to our transfer budget it will instead be our transfer budget.
At best.
Just say we sell pogba for say 150 million it won be added to our transfer budget it will instead be our transfer budget.
At best.
No point arguing this fact with them, constantly seen it spouted on this forum that Fergie got rid of him. When Fergie admitted himself at the time he wanted to keep him.
fecking hell how many times this thing will be repeated? SAF never got rid of him, he rejected contract extension and left on free transfer.
If we decide to sell him the decision won't be entirely on us, it'd be Pogba wanting to leave too.
It'd be stupid of us if we force to keep an unhappy player, especially we have already witnessed the damages he can cause and create from early on in the season.
He lost all my respect when he said it's a dream playing for Madrid while he is wearing our badge which he seems he dosen't know too much about. I'd be very happy if we sell him with 120+m, he can feck off.
If Pogba is not United quality or class, then this entire team needs to go outside of De Gea. He's far and away the best and most important outfield player on this team ever since he came in. People complaining about his consistency or low points are acting like he's the one dragging the team down as if the rest were having great form and Pogba is the one stinking up the joint. You lot need to snap out of it, I get it's a sensitive subject for him to be leaving, but that doesn't excuse the complete lack of perspective I'm reading.
Also, SAF did not get rid of Pogba, he tried to keep him and Pogba ran down his contract. So you're the one arguing with SAF there...
I'd be confident in getting two replacements, Coutinho was one of the most influential players in the league, left and now Liverpool have spent well but FSG (whoever the owners are) provided club with the entirety of the funds the sale generated. The glazers would not sanction the same actions.
I've also not got confidence in the clubs scouting to find a useful replacement, we've brought Fred and Matic in recent windows it's just not good enough.
I'd take Rabiot and Ndombele, I don't know why this is such a surprise few weeks into Oles tenure Pogbas brother said he has an intention to play for Madrid it's only a matter of time.
I've also not got confidence in the clubs scouting to find a useful replacement, we've brought Fred and Matic in recent windows it's just not good enough.
I'd take Rabiot and Ndombele, I don't know why this is such a surprise few weeks into Oles tenure Pogbas brother said he has an intention to play for Madrid it's only a matter of time.
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He wanted to get rid of him so much that he had the likes of Evra and Rio attempt to convince him to stay...according to their own words too, not the musings of some top reds
I agree with what you are saying.....but we are talking about our record transfer and a player supposedly one of the best in the world in his position. He gets scrutinised because of this and to be honest also because of his own personality spouting off in the media, the social media, the flamboyent stuff etc etc, so he partly brings it on himself. I would argue he hasnt consistently proven himself to be world class or worth anywhere near the fees quoted for him even though he certainly has the ability, during his time here.
I would rather he stayed, but with all that he brings and if the fee was to be as mentioned and the money was well spent, I dont think it would be aywhere near the disaster some think, certainly nothing like losing Ronaldo for example.
You expect him to say that he will always stay here and then suddenly feck off during the summer?
Madrid is the bigger club, with the bigger prestige on the european level.
As much as I love our club, if I would be a player now I'd jump ship in the summer. A football player's career is to short to waste it playing with Ash, Jones, Matic, Herrera for top4 in England.
Any player with the smallest amount of ambition would want to move up in class.
I am not saying that Ole doesn't have a chance to bring us back where we belong, that Pogba doesn't love the club or something like that, but you need a head check if you hold any grudge for him leaving, considering the team's current state.
People think that, if Ole came in, won a dozen games and moved up the table a bit, the team isn't suddenly shit anymore.
We still start games with at least 4-5 players that should be nowhere near a United lineup and we won't replace them anytime soon.
Anyone holding any grudge for players leaving in such conditions need their heads checked.
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You replace him with Dacoure at Watford and Neve's at Wolves, you then have a midfield of Herrera, Scott, Fred, and the two new additions, Matic as back up, as he has one year left on his contract, and this will give Scott a year to adjust and become fully accustomed to first team football, and if your lucky you still have 20 mill left to either get a right sided player or a right back in Wan-Bissaka [adding probbably another 20 mill to the balance left].
We all know it'll be like this every summer until he eventually goes.
Is he down to 2 years on his contract now? Must be, as he'll have probably signed a 4+1 deal when he came?
We either have to put a whopping new one under his nose, or sell this summer while his value is sky high.
Is he down to 2 years on his contract now? Must be, as he'll have probably signed a 4+1 deal when he came?
We either have to put a whopping new one under his nose, or sell this summer while his value is sky high.
Ha. Nonsense clearly!
No, he hasn't proven himself to be consistently world-class at United, I definitely agree with you there, I'm just not sure it's simply a Pogba issue as opposed to a coaching issue, and I don't know if there are too many players that can be realistically brought that would change any of that as it seems to be a deeper issue than just one player. The fact is there hasn't been a single outfield player that has showed consistently good levels of performance for United, and it's difficult when the team as a whole often has moments of pure dread out there.
I don't think you'll find a player that has that many tools at his disposal from the center of the field, which is part of why his fee was so high, as well as his commercial appeal. Nowadays, price doesn't mean what it used to. He went for Messi/CR7 money and some unreasonably deduced that he should then perform near those levels when he's never been that kind of player. The patch of form he's had under OGS was always going to be unsustainable, not just for Pogba but any CM.
As far as him bringing the media on himself, I don't buy that entirely. It's the press that is the instigator. Look at a guy like Mbappe, he immediately announced he'd be back to PSG next year and yet every day in the media there are stories of how he's working on a move to Madrid, or agreed to it already, etc...it doesn't matter what a player says, the press will do whatever they need to do to get people to click on their articles.
The investment from the owners is definitely a talking point. I'm just not sure Zidane to me is a manager that should be talked about as superior to Ole. More experienced with a top club, maybe. But Ole has achieved genuine impressive success at Molde in a way that is arguably harder than Madrid.
Coutino went for 140m
125m for world cup winner midfielder with most goal involvements in the top European leagues.
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If it's true he wants to leave we should probably cash in this summer. Next summer he'll have one year left right?
Not a lot we can do if he wants out, but we don't know that for sure
Not a lot we can do if he wants out, but we don't know that for sure
I'm firmly in the camp that would be happy if Pogba went - but only for a really, really large fee. He blows hot and cold far too often for a £100m player and I honestly feel we could get a more consistent player for much less money.
He may have really good stats, but his contribution when he's not feeling the love is not great. I've seen pretty average teams walk through our midfield when he's been playing way to often.
He may have really good stats, but his contribution when he's not feeling the love is not great. I've seen pretty average teams walk through our midfield when he's been playing way to often.
Too bad MEN are like Marca so we could sound a war horn through them.
Also I'm not sure if you're keen on Ole or not?
I'd be happy to get rid of him. Now is the time to collect the money also.
Juventus are apparently very serious about buying him back according to credible sources so I've no idea where you're getting your info from. Neymar was average at Barca but went for £200 million a couple of years ago. Pogba is officially the world's most marketable athlete alive today. Let that sink in and what it might mean for a club in terms of boosting brand and generating income?
You're entitled to your opinion but he absolutely deserves to be talked about as superior to Ole, no one cares what he did a Molde compared to back-to-back-to-back CLs and La Liga (not to mention the CWC, Copa del Rey, etc). As we've seen with plenty of coaches before and after Zizou, managing Madrid is not as easy as some of you make it sound.
Keen on him as a man, yes.
Keen on him as a Utd legend, yes.
Keen on him as potential future Utd permanent manager, yes.
Keen on him as a permanent appointment right now, under the current conditions - a major rebuild, dealing with Woodward / Glazers, implementing modern football and wrestling the PL from Guardiola and Klopp, no.
Yeah I got that.
I have changed my mind on this within the last few days.
I would listen to offers between 150m and 200m. I would also consider Isco/Asensio and money. Not Kroos and not Bale.
I would listen to offers between 150m and 200m. I would also consider Isco/Asensio and money. Not Kroos and not Bale.
This. Pogba is worth 150m plus just from potential and marketting. Forget form