Can we please decide on a name for it:
1) Pogback United
2) Pogba FC
3) Children of Pogba
4) Dabbers United
5) Pogbology (from Scientology)
6) Pogburns
7) PogCrew
Pogba Future
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1) Pogback United
2) Pogba FC
3) Children of Pogba
4) Dabbers United
5) Pogbology (from Scientology)
6) Pogburns
7) PogCrew
Is that what Cantona said? Ruud? Scholes? Ronaldo?
Maradona is famous for having played in a team that was not crazy good at Napoli and with Argentina, yet he delivered miracles in many games and brought titles. He is also famous for trying to do warming up with many technical skills right before the game, in the middle of the field. You know why? Because he wanted to inspire *confidence* to his team mates. He wanted to tell them, don't worry, I am playing with you, we are going to get something out of this game. That's the kind of leadership I would expect at least from Pogba given his "ambitions".
Pogba can do better, it starts by trying to understand what's not working with him and see how to make it work. Maybe managers have some input. His best performance was when he listened to Deschamps and purified his game. He should think about it.
hope he goes, symbolises everything wrong with the club
No if you want to win you actually have to try to win when on the field.
This has been a very strange thread...
Curious whether Pogba’s continued cnutish attitude exonerates Jose of his seemingly cnutish attitude towards Pogba. I haven’t made my mind up yet but one thing is certain, both are individually cnuts.
True, but if you think him going will change this you've got another thing coming.
Pogba leaving is not a positive for the club in any way.
Jose was defending Pogba early on
For me, a very bad one.
Play average for 3 seasons
Publicly state intentions to leave
Then be rewarded with being around the first team with NO punishment.
Just advertises player power for me which is bad for the club and the game in general.
As a club we wont do it, but i wish we had the balls to fine and demote him immediately.
Ole will never be a success if the club continues to favour players over what he is trying to do.
Pogba doesnt WANT to be part of the rebuild but he IS on tour. Makes zero sense!
I'm not sure where you are coming with all this? Those players all had better teams around them, better ownership and ambition as a club. All I am saying that I fully understand players wanting out of Manchester United at the moment considering the mess at hand.
Would you stay at a workplace where everybody else is sh't (overplaying here) and the board is showing no ambition, or change of pace to take the establishment to the next level, while you had the skills and motivation to do it somewhere else? And you had around 5 years to do it at the very best level. I doubt it.
Yeah great player that Maradona, no doubt about it.
If true, i give up on this club
When Cantona arrived, you cannot say he had better teams, the team didn't win anything for a while. But he didn't say, my team mates are shit, I am leaving. He tried to make it work, and showed his class by doing so.
If I am as good as Pogba think he is, than I am at a game changer level. And for that level, yes, I take the workspace and I change it. Success changes a lot of things, your vision is a weird one as if everything is static. No, success brings success and changes the teams profoundly. Pogba was bought to bring that success or at least contribute massively into it, instead, he did not.
Not sure why the sarcasm for Maradona, he may not be the best example of human being, but as a player, the way he tried inspire confidence to his team mates to win games was absolutely spot on and he deserves absolute respect for that. Pogba should simply do the same, inspire confidence.
It's not a reward, it's a sign that you don't get what you want by humiliating the club.
And you don't want to be here? Then you will be here. You will listen to follow rules, and then, we will see.
For me, it's an excellent message of discipline. Nothing wrong here.
This
We have fans that disrespect the club more than Pogba himself. FFS Have some self respect.
Lingard's already in the deck. He's the Joker
Wished Lindelof wasn’t there, would have loved to see Lingard decked.
you are probably referring to the games where Pogba was not good am I right? He did win Wc and Scudetto. So maybe he will try it harder somewhere else where there is better set up around him?Forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't Raiola burn his bridges with Madrid (Florentino) when he tried to pimp his boy out to the highest bidder before Pogba returned to United?
Whatever the case it now seems to have formed a wedge between Zidane and Florentino. According to reports in Spain Florentino doesn't want to get involved in the Pogba circus and prefers to sign Ericksen but because Zidane is obsessed with Pogba, Florentino may have to drop his trousers and take one for Madrid because he promised Zidane whatever it took to get him back.
I was looking through the Madrid Forum in the Pogba thread and it's now up to over 450 pages. Really if I was Pogba I'd have a quick flick through before deciding to go there
80% think he's the most overhyped player of all time (sound familiar?) 10% think he's god (sound familiar?) and the other 10% are willing to give him a chance because he's Zidanes obsession.
I'll post a link of the forum so any Spanish speakers on here can see for themselves exactly what they think of Pogba
https://fororealmadrid.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=19229&p=2422962#p2422962
I'm spanish and Real Madrid supporter. You are my favorite english team too.
First of all sorry for my bad english, I understand what you say but it's a bit difficult to me to write it.
What you say is correct, in Spain and Real Madrid supporters in general we don't want Pogba because he is very problematic and he has Raiola in his back, but we all want to give Zidane whatever he wants because he came to help us again in a difficult time. In Spain the newspapers are talking about a 150M€ bid for Pogba, but Florentino wants to includes Bale in that, so we can pay about 80M€ + Bale. I think it's a good deal because, ok, Bale it's not in his best performance but he is also better than other attacking player that you have, with the money you can get for Pogba without Bale, I don't think you can get someone better because you don't play Champions and it's a difficult time for United.
With Eriksen is another Movie, we think it's done and the only thing because it's not official yet is because Ceballos is going to Spurs in loan for two years, and then it can be official. It doesn't prevent the Pogba deal. We want them both. But that's what we can hear in Spain, I don't know the things that you can read on the british newspapers.
They are both masters of cnutology and have a class 1 honours degree in cnutishness.
Jesus christ. You cannot force a player to stay if he doesnt want to.
Having him around the squad will.do more harm than good.
What positives does he bring?
You're paid 300k GBP per week and you cannot be the best player to lift a team and bring confidence to his team mates? Yeah, get lost, this is getting ridiculous. Pogba can do it, he just needs to do it consistently, always, so that he can get those titles, you know. He needs to do his parts first and then we see how it fares.
He’s not the only issue. Problems were there before he arrived and will be there when he leavesz
One big positive is that the club cannot be dealt with as if it was a joke. Players being paid a lot have made them forgot who pays them, so it's a gentle reminder. Please, we have plenty of employees who stay at job they hate because they need to get paid, let's not pretend that everyone is happy and joyful at work. But a contract, is a contract. And the main message is: stop humiliating the club, or even try to. It works with weak clubs like Juventus, or Ajax maybe, but not with United, and then we move on. Thanks.
He's not the only issue but he was brought here to help sort the issues out which hasn't exactly gone to plan for various reasons.
The media circus around Pogba is already a joke.. We look weak and inept by letting him and his agent disrespect the club.
For the second time i add. He was a disgrace when he left the first time.
Letting him publicly seek a move away and keeping him involved and not fining him is the only joke here
There is no joke, we don't need to film him, but he's part of the team and needs to play his part. The disrespect would be if we are forced to sell, that's the most ultimate disrespect and I just don't think we should give that pleasure to any player, so why would we start now?
Because we would be better without a player who has absolutely no desire to be here?
He needs to go. End of.
Pogba will never fit in here. Ever. Time to move on
He should only leave if Madrid offer us what we want. Forget all this 'just get him out' nonsense. If you want that then you have fallen right into Madrid/Riola's trap.
Their tactic is to cause friction between Pogba and the club/fans thus making people turn on him and they end up getting a nice easy and cheap move to Madrid. feck that.
Their tactic is to cause friction between Pogba and the club/fans thus making people turn on him and they end up getting a nice easy and cheap move to Madrid. feck that.
No you're wrong, if you do that, only Raiola and Madrid will be happy. That is the ultimate disgrace and worst. You do that with small clubs, not with Manchester United. Whatever, we should not sell if it's not a price we can even benefit from.
We've lost bigger and better players than Pogba. Nobody is bigger than the club. He has shown a total lack of respect with his words.
Cheers.
Anytime mate
Why do I get the distinct impression that Pogba out is merely Raiola's method of getting United to sign De Light (spelling) and pay his ridiculous agent fee?
IE, Buy the golden child from Ajax and the Pogba issues role away.
Wasn't Miky part of the deal for Pogba and Zlatan?
IE, Buy the golden child from Ajax and the Pogba issues role away.
Wasn't Miky part of the deal for Pogba and Zlatan?
In all fairness we sort of knew this day would come,we were just hoping we'd be in a stronger position to try to attempt to get him tied down to a longer stay but,i'd say the majority here, aren't surprised Pogba and Raiola are looking for a new destination.
How about taking James and Isco for Pogba? I think they would replace his creativity and goals and if we have the correct players to support these guys they could be fantastic. Just a thought.
No swaps.
Why? When we're being quoted 100m plus for SMS and the like it could be a cost-efficient way to get some quality in. I also think it would make sense for Madrid as they would be getting rid of two high earners. I'm not saying we should take their cast-offs but they could work for us.
What good is money? As soon as people know you got more it, the price goes up. SwaPS for quality (should they be willing etc) is as viable option. Money? Do you trust this club? Look what we did we Ronaldo's money. Announced it and then spent it like dummies. We are short of numbers and creativity. If we can bring in 2/3 players of quality for one? It'd be a pretty good move. You want to keep your best players, but we are 4/5 players short and we have some who need to leave.
You lot are in for a big surprise if you think Pogba is taking his failures with him from us.