We better fleece Madrid or whoever else.
I'm not bothered about Pogba leaving. I've grown tired of his antics and his inconsistency.
I'm not bothered about Pogba leaving. I've grown tired of his antics and his inconsistency.
Pogba Future
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Occasionally he is....
Him and Raiola deserve each other - both of them have pissed on us twice now.
Will be genuinely happy when he's gone for good this time.
But he is a contributing factor to that. His attitude is shit. He could be amazing but he isn't.
I wish we were in the position to sell, but we really aren't.
Absolutely correct.
I'm tired of saying this to every silly post that references the world cup. It was 4 out of 7 fecking games. Consistency and world football don't go together. Get over it, he didn't do it in a club shirt.
It's not like United play Belgium or England national side week in week out. He went missing against the likes of Huddersfield for fecksake. You can't blame that on players around him
I never said anything about his quality.
At his best he’s a very good player, but he all too often looks like he just can’t be arsed. That’s nobodies fault but his own. If he’d been 100% professional, worked his bollocks off and covered every blade of grass, lead by example and turned up for more than just the games where we piss it 3-0, then he’d be leaving with our best wishes, e.g De Gea.
But he isn’t. He’s a petulant little shit who thinks he’s too good to run, gives the ball away and expects his teammates to win it back, then wants to collect the glory when he scores the odd penalty - and he can’t even do that without a self-absorbed run up. He’s the exact opposite of professional, and that’s why many here feel like he’s not risen to the challenge. Not because he isn’t good enough, but because most of the time he wasn’t even trying.
There is a big issue at this club where every high profile player in their peak years wants to get out of United since Woodward has overseen things, creating an awful mess and a poor image of the club on the footballing side of things, Di Maria, De Gea, Pogba and Lukaku, you do not see such consistent disrespect from big players at Liverpool, Man city, Chelsea, Madrid, PSG, Juventus, Bayern or Barca, the frustration needs to be taken out at the men at the top of this club and not the players at the club
Di Maria never wanted to be here, DDG gave us almost 10 years and Lukaku isn't really regarded as a "top striker" in world football? Or is he, I'm not sure anymore.
Totally agree with all the apathetic/ rational posters on here: we're potentially losing someone who's flattered to deceive and showed up in short bursts since he arrived. He's been a frequent source of antagonism for one reason or another and just doesn't have enough credit in the bank to justify the anxiety.
Get the money and buy 2 other midfielders. Losing him may well even mean that team morale improves without an idiotic pied piper at the centre of everything. Let's rid ourselves of the unnecessary blah, blah.
Get the money and buy 2 other midfielders. Losing him may well even mean that team morale improves without an idiotic pied piper at the centre of everything. Let's rid ourselves of the unnecessary blah, blah.
He isn't even the best in bloody Manchester
Paragraph two is why it hasn’t worked out for Pogba. Too many people judging his character for reasons they don’t even know why themselves. This current crop of fans would have hated Zidane if he played for us.
Pogba is our Coutinho. Sell him to the highest bidder, then go and buy 3 top quality players with the money. Bruno, Ndombele and AWB.
Pogwho?
Pogwho?
Well said.
A cult of followers? God forbid a poster defends Pogba.
Speaking of cults. It's the same group of posters jumping down anyone's throat that dares defend Pogba.
Sure mate. Sure.
Nonsense. It hasn't worked out for Pogba because he's been wildly inconsistent despite his obvious talent. And we're less than the sum of our parts when he plays, as the 2 legs against PSG show.
Love the work reference. Apparently if people around you suck at work so can you.I'm tired of saying this to every silly post that references the world cup. It was 4 out of 7 fecking games. Consistency and world football don't go together. Get over it, he didn't do it in a club shirt.
It's not like United play Belgium or England national side week in week out. He went missing against the likes of Huddersfield for fecksake. You can't blame that on players around him
I think he is a class player but I don't think he is right for us at this moment in time. We are a team in transition and patience is needed. Instant success is not realistic.
He says he thinks this summer would be a good time to move onto other challenges.
So he is not interested and I don't see the sense in keeping a player who needs to feel happy to perform.
He says he thinks this summer would be a good time to move onto other challenges.
So he is not interested and I don't see the sense in keeping a player who needs to feel happy to perform.
It's the funniest get out of jail free card by his supporters.
Yeah. But. But. World cup, team huddle.
I personally can't stand him. He's everything I hate about the modern game. Also the team's accomplishments you listed above are exactly that, The ''teams'' accomplishments, not Pogba's. Juventus haven't missed Pogba much since he left and France were hardly trash before he came along.
I seriously hope we rid ourselves of him in the near future. He's a complete bottler with absolutely no leadership qualities. Fleece him off to Paris where he belongs.
Juventus
Serie A Winners : 16/17, 17/18, 18/19
Coppa Italia Winners : 16/17, 17/18
Supercoppa Italiana Winners : 17/17, 17/18, 18/19
France
World Soccer Team of the Year Winner 1984
European Championship Winner 1984
World Soccer Team of the Year Winner 1991
World Soccer Team of the Year Winner 1998
FIFA World Cup Winner 1998
World Soccer Team of the Year Winner 2000
European Championship Winner 2000
Confederations Cup Winner 2001
Confederations Cup Winner 2003
World Cup Finalists 2006
Jesus, some off the posts on this thread defending Pogba are laughable.
I mean he’s been a tit every chance he has and now wants to join Real because off their flashy new signings and you have people saying it’s the fan’s fault ffs.
What about the club you play for putting in a shift being a world class player.
What has he actually done at United apart from scoring 2 against City?
Yet there’s people saying fan’s should be ashamed of themselves for not being overly concerned about him going, what nonsense you get out what you put in and Pogba hasn’t put in alot.
I mean he’s been a tit every chance he has and now wants to join Real because off their flashy new signings and you have people saying it’s the fan’s fault ffs.
What about the club you play for putting in a shift being a world class player.
What has he actually done at United apart from scoring 2 against City?
Yet there’s people saying fan’s should be ashamed of themselves for not being overly concerned about him going, what nonsense you get out what you put in and Pogba hasn’t put in alot.
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Think it's funny that so many people think that Glazers will reinvest any funds back into the club. Seen some also thinking that we already had a £200 million budget this summer.
The reality is we will spend only a fraction of the figures touted and we'll scramble to get a couple of signings before the season starts.
The club is being run into the ground by corporate greed.
The reality is we will spend only a fraction of the figures touted and we'll scramble to get a couple of signings before the season starts.
The club is being run into the ground by corporate greed.
I wish he'd stay just to see some of the reactions from many caftards.
In all honesty, if we finish 6th again, it won't be surprising. I have lost all hope regarding Man United
In all honesty, if we finish 6th again, it won't be surprising. I have lost all hope regarding Man United
It's our very own Gang of Four.A cult of followers? God forbid a poster defends Pogba.
Speaking of cults. It's the same group of posters jumping down anyone's throat that dares defend Pogba.
If, I say if, the reports are true there is a level of control at United that has been lost that is not acceptable. It’s unprofessional to disrespect United by weaponising the media and potentially contributing to recruitment at United for self enhancement. United cannot have those type of players.
Jamie Jackson. Hope this wasn't intended as a tick in the Pogstays box?
When you base your views on events under JM, even when he isnt United manager anymore.
I never said anything about his quality.
At his best he’s a very good player, but he all too often looks like he just can’t be arsed. That’s nobodies fault but his own. If he’d been 100% professional, worked his bollocks off and covered every blade of grass, lead by example and turned up for more than just the games where we piss it 3-0, then he’d be leaving with our best wishes, e.g De Gea.
But he isn’t. He’s a petulant little shit who thinks he’s too good to run, gives the ball away and expects his teammates to win it back, then wants to collect the glory when he scores the odd penalty - and he can’t even do that without a self-absorbed run up. He’s the exact opposite of professional, and that’s why many here feel like he’s not risen to the challenge. Not because he isn’t good enough, but because most of the time he wasn’t even trying.
Spot on
I long for the day when top clubs band together and refuse to deal with Raiola anymore.
In any case, it’s pretty obvious that Pogba never was gonna stay here long term. I’d ship him off for 150m; anything less and he can rot on the bench for the rest of his contract.
In any case, it’s pretty obvious that Pogba never was gonna stay here long term. I’d ship him off for 150m; anything less and he can rot on the bench for the rest of his contract.
Put KDB in that United team, amongst all the turmoil on and off the pitch, and then have fans, pundits etc blaming HIM for all that is flaming wrong with the club.
Rose tinted specs are easy to wear when you have a top manager, and THE outstanding squad in Europe. Pogba has not had anything close to either of those.
Excuse number 325.
Actually he's the part of the turmoil.
The entire City midfield are better than Pogba. KDB, David Silva, and Bernardo Silva, all are better, more consistent and more hard worker. He's definitely not the best CM in the world. Enough of overhyping our players when they're not performing on the pitch.
"Play him as a 10, so he has no defensive responsibility."
"Play him on the left of a three like Juve did."
"He can't play on the left of a three as we don't have a Pirlo."
"Play him on the left wing so he has space and can link with the forwards easier."
Just a small number of the comments we've made to excuse him not performing unless everything is geared around his style of laissez faire, disinterested football. We did that with a 30 year old Rooney and this lad is supposed to be at his peak but can only play in the most specific style possible.
"Play him on the left of a three like Juve did."
"He can't play on the left of a three as we don't have a Pirlo."
"Play him on the left wing so he has space and can link with the forwards easier."
Just a small number of the comments we've made to excuse him not performing unless everything is geared around his style of laissez faire, disinterested football. We did that with a 30 year old Rooney and this lad is supposed to be at his peak but can only play in the most specific style possible.
Man just saw the news. We are truly fecked if we let him leave this season. He can leave next seaosn when we get back into top 4 but not right now when we are recruiting average players.
Hope the board is smart about this and a worse case scenario sees us taking 150 million for his sale.
Hope the board is smart about this and a worse case scenario sees us taking 150 million for his sale.
Our lack of ambition and strategy since we signed him has cost us. He probably signed in the hope we would kick on. The reality is we are still only a top 6/top 7 club.
If he goes we'll struggle even more.to attract the top quality players we need.
If he goes we'll struggle even more.to attract the top quality players we need.
Yes but Pogba is more marketable. We all know how important that is.
Your argument is weak and full of contradictions. First of all, your list of names is a subjective judgement of one player as opposed to another. That's fair enough, but sorry, I don't see many of those names as better footballers than Paul Pogba. Pjanic better than Pogba? Eriksen is better than Pogba? Completely different types of players... KDB is the only name I would suggest may warrant a debate, as their games are in some ways, similar. Busquets? Casemiro? Where is the evidence of that? CL Highlights? Kroos will not keep Pogba out of a Real Madrid team.
'International games are a different level'. Well, yes, that's my point. And I am not talking sub-standard Nations league type matches. People still want to act as if Pogba was not one of the best players at the last world cup. Look at his performances in the BIG games, against the likes of Belgium (and KDB no less...)
To suggest that penalties are some sort of 'gimme' or something is nonsense. Your team wins a game by a penalty kick and you value that goal some what 'less' than a 'normal' goal. That's garbage. Utter, utter, utter, utter, garbage.
World Cup's have been won by penalty kicks.