IrishRedDevil
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Decisive move.
While we nose dive with ETH.
While we nose dive with ETH.
Yeah, I think its a mistake to see some grand strategic rationale in this decision. Journalists like Ben Jacobs are going to say that kind of thing because their job depends on the access provided by club officials so they'll say whatever they need to say to make Boehly et al look good.
The club's financial shell games require them to sell players like Gallagher and Chalobah this summer to book the accounting profit. Poch naturally doesn't want to sell them because Gallagher has been a pillar of his side and a leader on the pitch, while Chalobah has been arguably the side's best CB since coming back from injury. So, manager sacked, new manager found.
Decisive move.
While we nose dive with ETH.
Decisive move.
While we nose dive with ETH.
Like I said earlier in the season, players like Enzo just don't fit into the way Pochettino wants to develop the team. It's no surprise Chelsea started playing better once Enzo was unavailable. I think the decision to spend huge money on Enzo and then to go out and appoint Pochettino was a stupid one.
I was apprehensive about Enzo Fernandez in the EPL due to his litimitations out of possession. I think from a Chelsea POV, they need a coach who doesn't overly rely on the physical and athletic aspects of his team but also combines a strong build up phase from the back. The amount of money spent by Chelsea has been staggering and I think Pochettino unlike Graham Potter had a full preseason at the club and should've done better.
In the same way as Rishi Sunak was when Truss got the boot?Amazing news that he's suddenly available
Like I said earlier in the season, players like Enzo just don't fit into the way Pochettino wants to develop the team. It's no surprise Chelsea started playing better once Enzo was unavailable. I think the decision to spend huge money on Enzo and then to go out and appoint Pochettino was a stupid one.
I was apprehensive about Enzo Fernandez in the EPL due to his litimitations out of possession. I think from a Chelsea POV, they need a coach who doesn't overly rely on the physical and athletic aspects of his team but also combines a strong build up phase from the back. The amount of money spent by Chelsea has been staggering and I think Pochettino unlike Graham Potter had a full preseason at the club and should've done better.
Enzo has never been the problem. He's been playing with a hernia problem for months - yet instead of leaving Enzo higher when he has a valuable skillset in the final third despite limited mobility Poch has persisted with Gallagher higher up the pitch, even going so far as to play him at left wing at times. It all stems from Poch being obsessed with maximising high turnovers at the cost of anything resembling a midfield structure - simply not a viable tactic in the modern game.
Agree. Now when they were finally finding the way they fire him. But remember that these are the people that are going to disrupt football with their modern methods that us mortals on this side of the Atlantic cannot comprehend.Sacked him as soon as it was looking to click.
Enzo was always the problem when you made the decision to hire Pochettino because anyone that understands Pochettino's coaching principles will know that he wants to get the ball forward with a minimal amount of passes to implement a higher defensive line to force high turn overs. Enzo Fernandez as good as he is on the ball severely lacks the physical and athletic ability to play the system Pochettino wanted to implement. And I don't believe Pochettino wanted to play Gallacher higher up the pitch, but rather he had to fit Enzo Fernandez into the first 11 which I predicted would be a problem for him as early as last year.Enzo has never been the problem. He's been playing with a hernia problem for months - yet instead of leaving Enzo higher when he has a valuable skillset in the final third despite limited mobility Poch has persisted with Gallagher higher up the pitch, even going so far as to play him at left wing at times. It all stems from Poch being obsessed with maximising high turnovers at the cost of anything resembling a midfield structure - simply not a viable tactic in the modern game.
Sacked him as soon as it was looking to click.
It feels like it’s goes to the other end of the extreme to simply suggest they needed to sell Gallagher and they needed to fire Poch because he disagreed. Especially when Gallagher can simply refuse to leave. They tried to sell him for Everton last year but he said nah I’m not going there. They’re going to have to give him a new deal eventually because he only has a year left on his deal and they’re obviously not going to let him walk for free when he’s valued at £50m. The ball is completely in Gallagher’s court. The new manager will find him very useful and play him, so he has no incentive accept a move to fecking Tottenham, of all teams.
I thought he was poor whenever I watched you play, and he didn't bring much even when he was further up the pitch. Perhaps Poch didn't want to sacrifice pressing and energy in the forward line for perhaps more creative outlet in the final third. In the end he did sacrifice Gallagher there and played him deeper, probably because he knew Palmer would bring output through the middle and Madueke finally started to show up.
You should know better than me though, what do you think Enzo brings in that role that Gallagher or Palmer don't?
Enzo was always the problem when you made the decision to hire Pochettino because anyone that understands Pochettino's coaching principles will know that he wants to get the ball forward with a minimal amount of passes to implement a higher defensive line to force high turn overs. Enzo Fernandez as good as he is on the ball severely lacks the physical and athletic ability to play the system Pochettino wanted to implement. And I don't believe Pochettino wanted to play Gallacher higher up the pitch, but rather he had to fit Enzo Fernandez into the first 11 which I predicted would be a problem for him as early as last year.
Even myself when watching Enzo Fernandez at Benfica, it was clear to see that he lacked the running power as a central midfielder and I wasn't sure his ability to pass the ball would be enough to negate his deficiencies out of possession. But what seems to happen is that too many people only focus on what a player can do on the ball but forget that if the aim is to play on the front foot in a proactive manner, then defending large space on the counter by eating up ground quickly is a real advantage and really helps maintain control and helps the team sustain attacks.
I think to buy Enzo Fernandez and to then play him in a more advanced midfield position is again a bad idea. Like I said earlier in the season, Pochettino surely had to fit him into his team due to the money spent on signing the player. But to sign one of the best deeper lying midfielders in the EPL in Caicedo who was statistically amongst the best players against the opposition press and to then also spend a vast amount of money on Enzo was daft from Chelsea if the idea is to then hire a coach who wants to go direct and force high turn-overs in a higher defensive line. And the funny thing is, I predicted Pochettino's down fall and I do believe Chelsea have made the right decision because if you want to get the best out of both Caicedo and Fernandez, then you need to hire a coach with a more varied approach to implementing a attack minded plan. But it'll be interesting to see how the next head coach works around Enzo's deficiencies out of possession where I believe the opposition can target him in the EPL.But Enzo doesn't lack that ability to play Poch's system unless he is dealing with a hernia - and especially then he would have been perfectly capable of playing further up. Also why wouldn't Poch just swap Enzo and Gallagher if Enzo was apparently a mandate? It's blindingly obvious that Enzo is a better player in the final third and would have been a far more effective 10 than Gallagher. I think you're correct to say that Enzo doesn't have what it takes to be an 8 in Poch's system but it's also true that Poch chose to play him there for some reason when there were obvious alternatives.
He 1000% should.He really shouldn't
Sounds just like a lot of your most venerated players.This leads me to believe Pochettino might have outright told them that selling certain players (most namely Gallagher) would be a non starter for him.
People thought players like Mount were part of the spirit of the club… but he was always a guy who would take his toys and pout on the sidelines if he didn’t get what he wanted.
That full field sprint into a goal saving slide tackle against Bournemouth is all you need to know about Gallagher. You would have to carry him if the field before he’d quite. You can dangle him in front of teams as sale bait for years, and he still won’t give up giving everything he has for the club.
Pochettino knows you need people like that. A better footballer doesn’t mean better for our team necessarily. And I don’t know that we go in that run or come together like we did as a team without Conor.
So Chelsea fans need to understand we aren’t just saying goodbye to Poch; we are saying goodbye to many of the elements that had finally helped us gel into a team.
Starting from scratch next year with mostly young players ….again.
I think to buy Enzo Fernandez and to then play him in a more advanced midfield position is again a bad idea. Like I said earlier in the season, Pochettino surely had to fit him into his team due to the money spent on signing the player. But to sign one of the best deeper lying midfielders in the EPL in Caicedo who was statistically amongst the best players against the opposition press and to then also spend a vast amount of money on Enzo was daft from Chelsea if the idea is to then hire a coach who wants to go direct and force high turn-overs in a higher defensive line. And the funny thing is, I predicted Pochettino's down fall and I do believe Chelsea have made the right decision because if you want to get the best out of both Caicedo and Fernandez, then you need to hire a coach with a more varied approach to implementing a attack minded plan. But it'll be interesting to see how the next head coach works around Enzo's deficiencies out of possession where I believe the opposition can target him in the EPL.
City, Arsenal, Spurs, Villa and probably Newcastle are set. I think next season will look exactly the same for United and Chelsea, struggling around 6-8th.Don't really follow Chelsea enough to judge this but that's basically everyone other than City and Arse changing managers this summer? I really hope we take the chance and change too. The next manager could benefit from the environment.