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Me when Poch is still the manager in opening game next season

 
Vibe seems to be he's been told he'll be sacked if they don't any form of European competition.

Got that feeling looking at him falling to his knees when Palmer couldn't score the one on one.

Was he this emotional when you didn't beat Burnley or Sheffield United?
 
WeePat said:
Me when Poch is still the manager in opening game next season

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The apparent leash that he has is absolutely mind-blowing when Tuchel got sacked for correctly telling ownership that signing Ronaldo would be a bad idea?

Just give me Tuchel back please for the love of God. There are absolutely levels to football tactics and Poch is several rungs below Tommy T
 
FootballHQ said:
Vibe seems to be he's been told he'll be sacked if they don't any form of European competition.

Got that feeling looking at him falling to his knees when Palmer couldn't score the one on one.

Was he this emotional when you didn't beat Burnley or Sheffield United?
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Good fecking riddance I'd say. Don't even think he's been as good as Rafa Benitez was during his Chelsea spell; we are worse than we were last year except we have Cole Palmer now
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
The apparent leash that he has is absolutely mind-blowing when Tuchel got sacked for correctly telling ownership that signing Ronaldo would be a bad idea?

Just give me Tuchel back please for the love of God. There are absolutely levels to football tactics and Poch is several rungs below Tommy T
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Your playing staff is made up of footballers and pseudofootballers, not doing a great job but your football is decent and has a clear idea
 
E-mal said:
Your playing staff is made up of footballers and pseudofootballers, not doing a great job but your football is decent and has a clear idea
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I'd rather have a competent manager like Tuchel organising things and putting our players in position to succeed instead of the caveman football we play regularly.
 
Rnd898 said:
These kind of 'statistics' are always funny. I suppose quite a few teams would struggle to play with 10 men all season. :lol:
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The sad thing is, there are a lot of people out there who lack the mental capacity to do anything than just consume this she height as stone cold FACT
 
E-mal said:
You look better than us if that is any comfort
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And yet we had to rely on two borderline penalties and a huge deflection to beat you!

Poch is so far behind top managers. We turned the game around today in large part because for the first time this season we had a fullback move into deep midfield to help in the buildup phase - so perhaps Poch is now only 5 years behind instead of 10?
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
And yet we had to rely on two borderline penalties and a huge deflection to beat you!

Poch is so far behind top managers. We turned the game around today in large part because for the first time this season we had a fullback move into deep midfield to help in the buildup phase - so perhaps Poch is now only 5 years behind instead of 10?
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I think there was a lot about your game that was good tonight. I think there's a lot of issues with your squad and you also have a lot of injuries. I said recently that I was surprised by the way he had you playing though, because it didn't match what he's valued in the past, but tonight I could see it. I'm not going to tell you to stand by him, because we know full well what it's like having a manager underachieve but be given more and more chances. But if tonight was a sign of things to come then he might just sort it out you know. I'd feel far more optimistic if I were a Chelsea supporter compared to us. I'd kill for a performance like that compared to what we cook up, and I could genuinely get behind our manager if he'd shown anything resembling it.

I think that, if there's more of that over these next few games, and it's not a one off, then he'll be fine and you might even agree with keeping him.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
The apparent leash that he has is absolutely mind-blowing when Tuchel got sacked for correctly telling ownership that signing Ronaldo would be a bad idea?

Just give me Tuchel back please for the love of God. There are absolutely levels to football tactics and Poch is several rungs below Tommy T
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I feel like Boehly and co are still very much committed to this idea of a young squad who can improve and will look to appoint a younger coach in line with that, whether success with that model is realistic or not.

I reckon you could end up with Amorim from Sporting if you're prepared to throw the money around.
 
pocco said:
I think there was a lot about your game that was good tonight. I think there's a lot of issues with your squad and you also have a lot of injuries. I said recently that I was surprised by the way he had you playing though, because it didn't match what he's valued in the past, but tonight I could see it. I'm not going to tell you to stand by him, because we know full well what it's like having a manager underachieve but be given more and more chances. But if tonight was a sign of things to come then he might just sort it out you know. I'd feel far more optimistic if I were a Chelsea supporter compared to us. I'd kill for a performance like that compared to what we cook up, and I could genuinely get behind our manager if he'd shown anything resembling it.

I think that, if there's more of that over these next few games, and it's not a one off, then he'll be fine and you might even agree with keeping him.
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Honestly I don't disagree with you with regard to the match tonight - the issue is that if at this point we are having to grasp at reasons to keep the manager and I think it's entirely fair to say Poch hasn't built shit this year but has relied on Palmer being fecking brilliant despite his tactics, he's gotta go.

CM said:
I feel like Boehly and co are still very much committed to this idea of a young squad who can improve and will look to appoint a younger coach in line with that, whether success with that model is realistic or not.

I reckon you could end up with Amorim from Sporting if you're prepared to throw the money around.
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Would strongly prefer if they go with a coach with an established track record of promoting youth like Tuchel but I wouldn't hate Amorim. By most accounts here in Portugal it seems he might actually stay for at least another year.
 
CM said:
I feel like Boehly and co are still very much committed to this idea of a young squad who can improve and will look to appoint a younger coach in line with that, whether success with that model is realistic or not.

I reckon you could end up with Amorim from Sporting if you're prepared to throw the money around.
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Aren't they signing some players over 25 this summer?

However they can't then give those guys 7-8 year deals and spread the fees over the long term if they're signing 60-70m players.

They're still rash in decision making in final third so an experienced head or two won't hurt. Terry summed it up well on the podcast he did with Simon Jordan this week.
 
pocco said:
Seems to have got a bit of a grip of this team now. For me they look better without Enzo.
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It’s actually the closest I’ve seen us system and set up wise to the way we played in preseason. It’s wild because we actually looked brilliant in preseason (I know, I know it’s preseason) but the team did look good in a back 3 but for some reason on GW1 vs Liverpool Poch decides on a back 4 with Colwill LB and Chilwell LW.

Second half vs Villa and this game he’s moved Cucurella into midfield in possession and it’s worked kinda well. No idea why he abandoned what worked so well in preseason but I’m glad to see something resembling that back again.
 
He’s been turning things around in the second part of the season, which was not an easy feat given the number of transfers and injuries.
Credit where it’s due

BUT he also benefited from a lot of leniency from the media
 
Said it a few weeks back but this is how a failing manager convinces his bosses and the fans that keeping him might be a good idea. Chelsea are ending the season as one of the form teams and look like the manager is finally getting his players to buy into his coaching and system.
 
We had 10 fit senior players tonight...

With a full squad we should be top 4, big if that ever happens though.

My big problem with him is the choking in big games, saw it v Liverpool in the final and City in the Semi.
 
Mb194dc said:
We had 10 fit senior players tonight...

With a full squad we should be top 4, big if that ever happens though.

My big problem with him is the choking in big games, saw it v Liverpool in the final and City in the Semi.
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Need to sign a few more players. Can't be playing the youth.
 
pocco said:
Seems to have got a bit of a grip of this team now. For me they look better without Enzo.
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Zed is not dead said:
He’s been turning things around in the second part of the season, which was not an easy feat given the number of transfers and injuries.
Credit where it’s due

BUT he also benefited from a lot of leniency from the media
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Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Said it a few weeks back but this is how a failing manager convinces his bosses and the fans that keeping him might be a good idea. Chelsea are ending the season as one of the form teams and look like the manager is finally getting his players to buy into his coaching and system.
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Am I missing something here? They've won

1 game in their last 4 in all competition which includes a 5-0 humiliation.
4 wins in last 9 league games.
 
Could finish the season with around 60 points and reaching one cup final and one cup semi-final where they could've gone through on another day. One league loss since early February. Feels to me like that'll be enough for Chelsea's board to keep him for next season. And honestly I would do the same - they won't go for Tuchel who they sacked and there aren't that many options on the market anyway. Would feel the same about United if it wasn't ten Hag's 2nd season and if our performances weren't so bad after almost full 2 years under him.
 
Slowly improving under him. Maybe he is the man to take them forward.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
They are still a top cf short. Other wise I keep insisting. Their squad lacks nothing. Any under performance is strictly on Pochetino.
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I don't think that's true. The talent is there but it's a very youthful side, and their experience is in the form of players that are a bit past their best. In time they'll come good no doubt, they'll expedite that process if they bring in some experienced players in their prime though. I agree regarding the CF part, a Harry Kane would be transformative to them. I just think they need some experience at the back maybe, despite their talented younger CB options, and maybe something different in midfield to change the dynamic slightly. I think they're just missing something there. Enzo is technically good but he's not athletic and gets a bit overrun at times. I wouldn't say he's top level there either.
 
Dominos said:
Am I missing something here? They've won

1 game in their last 4 in all competition which includes a 5-0 humiliation.
4 wins in last 9 league games.
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Performances are coming together. I'd feel positive if we had a young team that was starting to put together dominant performances like they are, even if results aren't following yet. Against Villa and Spurs they've been very good, and that's two of the better PL teams this season. There's still huge room for growth and improvement in their team too.
 
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