Gaming PlayStation 4 (Console)

So to sum up. A slightly different looking controller, slightly better graphics, and an option to share your gameplay.

Brilliant.
 

I dunno, I just can't hype myself to walk around a game with my mobile phone in hand - I do that in real life. Nor does turning off electricity get my juices flowing. Graphics are slick and the gameplay might be good but the gimmick of having a plot-dump phone just doesn't appeal to me.

I never had an issue with that, but then I don't play COD.

I haven't played COD for a good 2 years now in any meaningful way but the whole of Killzone felt heavy, whether this is meant to reflect the armor weight and that kinda thing I don't know. Battlefield got the controls just about perfect for me and Killzone was 'heavier' than BF.
 
I appreciate that the Console industry subsidizes the PC Games industry but at the same time it holds it back and that's why I'm disappointed the technology in the PS3 isn't any sort of a step forward on current PC technology because it means it's going to be a slow 5 or so years for PC Gaming.

On the plus side, the 'new' technology in the PS4 is basically an HTPC which means PC game development techniques will work for PS4. This means in theory games can be developed with both PC and consoles in mind and then just change graphics settings between versions.
 
There's new games getting announced all the time, last night was just a small preview. Today for example, not even 24 hours after the event it's been announced that Witcher 3 will be on the Ps4. E3 will give good insight into the games, but I wouldn't worry at the moment.
 
People can make PC exclusives whenever they want and use the highest end fancy graphics. Just like people could make PS3 exclusives whenever they want, and use the consoles full potential.

They don't want to. It ain't worth it. People need to start accepting that, just like Sony have done by ditching Cell and making the PS4 a fancy PC.
 
So was it confirmed there would be no backwards compatibility?

I believe so.

Never expected there to be once they decided to go x86. Adding a Cell or trying to emulate one would've been far too costly. They weren't going to make the same mistake they did with the PS3 on launch.
 
I heard something about backwards compatibility through the cloud? feck knows! It's all a bunch of bollocks to me at the minute, next it'll be all about how the volcano allows you to download at 8373748weastewatts per second, and the ocean allows friends access to your account! feck off and give me a drag dreamcast.
 
Both Lambs and Weastey said it would "play the (PS1, PS2, PS3) disks"
 
It'll be backwards compatible in the future with Cloud.

That's not really "Backwards compatible" though. Backwards compatible means capable of reading Old Media. With that logic, with Cloud, it will be forwards compatible too as it will only need to send control commands to Cloud and Cloud will do all the work and stream back the game.
 
Poxbo and Bill are both right, it's not really backwards compatible and we will have to re-purchase the games, can't see another way around it.
 
What interested me was replaceing usernames with actual names to help with social integration... that could mean less trolling but I enojyed having a quirky username
 
Both Lambs and Weastey said it would "play the (PS1, PS2, PS3) disks"

Bollocks, I didn't talk backwards compatible, Weaste did.

Why are you so eager to prove us wrong anyway? What do you know?

If you look back, everything I said is bang on. Right down to beating all the numpties, like your favourite sites on the memory issue.

Oh and not only did I beat them, I even gave the reason Sony were talking about trying to double it - all in this very thread. It means what I know about the 720 is true, but hey if you know something about that, do you want to share it with us?

I told you all it was a mid/high level PC, I told you why Sony were doing it and I told you to look at old tech demos to see the power. Weaste, to his credit, got the specs and layout right too, and no it's not exactly the same as your precious sites got out of the dev kits. And they were even wrong about them.

As for the CELL, do you know Weaste is wrong about them getting some of it in there then? I haven't read up fully on this yet, so if you can save me time, please share...
 
It most certainly will, I cannot see any other solution.

There could be a possible workaround, as games with online require registration, so the registration could possibly be used to prove prior purchase.

That obviously won't help with older games, but it could be possible. I'm sure they'll just end up making you buy them again though.
 
Both Lambs and Weastey said it would "play the (PS1, PS2, PS3) disks"

Bollocks, I didn't talk backwards compatible, Weaste did.

Why are you so eager to prove us wrong anyway? What do you know?

If you look back, everything I said is bang on. Right down to beating all the numpties, like your favourite sites on the memory issue.

Oh and not only did I beat them, I even gave the reason Sony were talking about trying to double it - all in this very thread. It means what I know about the 720 is true, but hey if you know something about that, do you want to share it with us?

I told you all it was a mid/high level PC, I told you why Sony were doing it and I told you to look at old tech demos to see the power. Weaste, to his credit, got the specs and layout right too, and no it's not exactly the same as your precious sites got out of the dev kits. And they were even wrong about them.

As for the CELL, do you know Weaste is wrong about them getting some of it in there then? I haven't read up fully on this yet, so if you can save me time, please share...
It is backwards compatible.

It might melt them, but it'll play the discs
;)


I'm only falling mate, I dont think many assumed you where ITK to the point of knowing exact specs.
 
There could be a possible workaround, as games with online require registration, so the registration could possibly be used to prove prior purchase.

That obviously won't help with older games, but it could be possible. I'm sure they'll just end up making you buy them again though.

Buying Vice City all those years ago didn't stop me having to pay for it again to play it on the PS3. Bastards.
 
I'm not sure why people get so hung up on backwards compatible games, you can keep the old console you know?

Give me the new games, the old games have had their day.
 
Buying Vice City all those years ago didn't stop me having to pay for it again to play it on the PS3. Bastards.

You could have kept your Ps2 ;)

I know what you mean though. I spent quite a bit on the Nintendo virtual console on games I previously owned on 2 or 3 different systems!
 
I'm not sure why people get so hung up on backwards compatible games, you can keep the old console you know?

Give me the new games, the old games have had their day.

I would prefer it because I could then trade in the old console when buying the new one. Also handy as it takes up less space
 
I'm only falling mate, I dont think many assumed you where ITK to the point of knowing exact specs.

That was a wind up to weaste about the heating issues :lol:

Like you suggest, it's not like I expect my people to break NDA's to the point of telling me everything.

I always come at it from the viewpoint of the gamer, because that's what I am and that's what I used to make. You'll notice I contributed very little to the actual specs and layout, Weaste got all that down.

However, I'll repeat again, I beat everyone on the memory thing, it's a coincidence I talk about them doubling it for a specific reason, then Edge mention that same thing two days later, independent of everyone else? Even they didn't say the full reason, like I hinted at on here. Maybe they did read my post and couldn't figure it out :lol:

Anyway, the memory doubling IS a last minute thing, and there's a very real reason for it.


As for discs/controllers/downloads and all that shit, I have no answers other than I said quite some years back on here that they will try to shoehorn everything into one controller, and although it was semi-joking, look as the monstrosity they've come up with.


One final point, I also told you that this leap wouldn't look as big as the last one, and indeed these consoles wouldn't be as future proof as the last. i even gave some reasons for that too.

All in all, I should be smug, but since I knew all this anyway I'm not at all. I just like to try to share things with you guys on here, rather than the dicks elsewhere. I'm keeping my mouth shut about the 720 for the time being though, but obviously Sony know something...
 
I'm not sure why people get so hung up on backwards compatible games, you can keep the old console you know?

Give me the new games, the old games have had their day.

I'm probably missing something but it just seems like it should be easy for them to do and means you don't have to keep your old console. For example the original PS3 had it, then they got rid of it - why?

You could have kept your Ps2 ;)

I know what you mean though. I spent quite a bit on the Nintendo virtual console on games I previously owned on 2 or 3 different systems!

I think I gave my old PS2 away!
 
That was a wind up to weaste about the heating issues :lol:

Like you suggest, it's not like I expect my people to break NDA's to the point of telling me everything.

I always come at it from the viewpoint of the gamer, because that's what I am and that's what I used to make. You'll notice I contributed very little to the actual specs and layout, Weaste got all that down.

However, I'll repeat again, I beat everyone on the memory thing, it's a coincidence I talk about them doubling it for a specific reason, then Edge mention that same thing two days later, independent of everyone else? Even they didn't say the full reason, like I hinted at on here. Maybe they did read my post and couldn't figure it out :lol:


Anyway, the memory doubling IS a last minute thing, and there's a very real reason for it.


As for discs/controllers/downloads and all that shit, I have no answers other than I said quite some years back on here that they will try to shoehorn everything into one controller, and although it was semi-joking, look as the monstrosity they've come up with.


One final point, I also told you that this leap wouldn't look as big as the last one, and indeed these consoles wouldn't be as future proof as the last. i even gave some reasons for that too.

All in all, I should be smug, but since I knew all this anyway I'm not at all. I just like to try to share things with you guys on here, rather than the dicks elsewhere. I'm keeping my mouth shut about the 720 for the time being though, but obviously Sony know something...


Can you hint again, or link to the post? I don't want to scroll through this mega thread to find it!
 
I haven't played COD for a good 2 years now in any meaningful way but the whole of Killzone felt heavy, whether this is meant to reflect the armor weight and that kinda thing I don't know. Battlefield got the controls just about perfect for me and Killzone was 'heavier' than BF.

Killzone's heaviness actually makes it the most realistic FPS I've played. The weight of the weapons is very realisic as is the recoil. You can trust me on that one, Addzz. ;)
 
I'm going to stick my neck out and say that doubling the RAM from 4 to 8gb isn't going to make a damned bit of difference.

Of course 256MB of RAM was too little, but when 32 bit PC's are limited to 3.5 then 4gb is enough