But the truth is that you don't know whether he will improve us or not. He might fit perfectly with the way we're playing, or he might do worse than McTominay, but he is a good PL player. You can't just look at individual players and assume they will be the better fit. Look at Liverpool's midfield when they dominated hard. Who in the hell would have thought that midfield trio would be as good as they were?
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But the truth is that you don't know whether he will improve us or not. He might fit perfectly with the way we're playing, or he might do worse than McTominay, but he is a good PL player. You can't just look at individual players and assume they will be the better fit. Look at Liverpool's midfield when they dominated hard. Who in the hell would have thought that midfield trio would be as good as they were?
Exactly, we all kind of got behind the Amrabat signing but when every name we are linked with has played with him years ago at a lower level it’s kind of becoming a joke.
I don’t think he’s gotten the credit he deserves in terms of his coaching last year, Caf faves Arteta & Klopp did sod all in the league in their first campaigns but where I feel they have an edge is you could see the changes in the squad far clearer than our own. You don’t ditch Fred [rightly so imo] then sign Hojberg.
This could be an all time classic if Mount becomes a successful player for usDoesn't matter if we buy another midfielder or not I don't care anymore. It will be someone who will be okay but nothing special and i am done with this type of signing from us.
We fecked up big time by buying Mount this summer, useless expensive player who will be mid at his best, running merchant who is neither good at 8 or 6 or 10. And when you see other teams in the top 4 how they upgraded their midfield and got quality there it is really big disappointment from us. Somehow we always manage to get the worst player on the market.
When you see the other teams purchases in the midfield this year, you're getting jealous and I don't know how we decided that Mount is the perfect player and the priority signing for us this summer, fack it.
If we compare every midfield addition from our rivals to Mount they are all better, which is disgrace when United knew that we needed top midfielder next to Case this year we fecked it up big time once again. But we've been here for 10 years now, so I don't get surprised anymore.
Put them on list:
Spurs got Maddison = better than Mount
City got Kovacic and soon Nunes = both better than Mount
Arsenal got Rice = better than Mount
Liverpool got Mac Allister and Szobo = both better than Mount
Chelsea got Caicedo and Lavia = both better than Mount
Newcastle got Tonali = better than Mount
Even West ham got Alvarez and JWP = and accept it as you wish but in my opinion they are both better than Mount. (PS: They had better summer window than us- Kudus , JWP , Alvarez and Mavropanos and still looking for 1 more
It is just hilarious.
I don't know how we manage to put up the same circus every year and we still somehow endure these clowns. We're just not serious and we're not going to get anywhere near the top in the coming years, even if Pep become our coach. .
I don't see a glimmer of hope for United and I'm not kidding.
Last year we somehow managed to get to the top 4 with a lot of luck and in the end we almost missed the top 4 (Luckily we won 1-0 vs Villa at home and got easiest version of Chelsea too).
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You would genuinely think Mount couldn’t get a game with a couple of 11 year olds playing down a small park in Dorset, the way some people talk about him on here.
I mean I'm not saying he's Cama, but I have no idea how you can say that being great at carrying the ball forward "isn't what we need". I mentioned Thuram mainly because he's played as a 6 and an 8, is young, and quality carrying is *exactly* what we need. We are about to get rinsed by Arsenals press Saturday because we don't have a single midfielder that can dribble a fecking football with any sort of competence (Mount is the closest but as has been discussed at length he plays so high up that it has less of an impact, and he's hurt anyways.). Sure ideally we find a De Jong regen that can do both, but those don't grow on trees and with our limited budget I'd at least like to find another combative midfielder that offers something different.
But sure let's take Hojburg who can't get minutes for Spurs and who we'll be looking to replace in a year or two anyways alongside Casemiro. It's frustrating to say the least.
I like Hojberg but he’s another who doesn’t solve the issues in our midfield
It's a byproduct of the people that didn't want to sign him in the first place being told they are idiots and that he fits perfectly and everyone wanted him etc. and then watching him for us and seeing him do exactly what he did for Chelsea (and not what we needed). It's only natural that frustration reaches a breaking point.
I also think the reaction to Mount would be much different if he was a supplemental signing and not our marquee priority target that we gave the 7 to.
The caf 180 on Mount as soon as we were linked to him still boggles my mind. Out of nowhere a good chunk of the forum suddenly decided he was good despite being naff for club and country
Not me, I was getting slammed in the Mount thread for being enraged when the links were credible
And then a ton of tacticos told me why I was an idiot and he was perfect for ETH's new system. Of course I'm still willing to see it out once he comes back (I actually thought he was decent against Spurs and pretty good that first half), but yeah it's frustrating to say the least.
Would definitely take Hojberg over Tielsman who is the sort of fairweather player we absolutely do not need. The former is a pretty good footballer. But still, I’d prefer we sign someone younger with more potential than someone who has you’d imagine already peaked at a goodish level and nothing more. Also we’re accumulating too many short term midfield signings in Eriksen, Casemiro and now Hojberg.
A good chunk of any significant group of people will always think a two time Chelsea player of the year and one time CL winner, is a good player. The only surprising thing is the people who are oddly surprised by that and who for some reason haven’t tried using their eyes and have a weird misplaced belief that’ll he’s some Lingard / cleverly level player.
It isn't what we need most in our midfield. Even the most mediocre midfielders can be decent ball carriers. McTominay is actually a pretty good ball carrier, but do you think he is what we need?
He is in the starting line up tonight along side Skipp and Lo Celso in front of them. I’d say he will be the pivot with Skipp going box to box. Soloman gets his first game.
The transfer makes sense. Solid player better then both free and Mct. Remember we will also have Mainoo available soon
It's a 5/10 transfer window at best, and at this late stage Ten Hag appears to be just getting bodies in the club, not upgrades, I'd usually blame Glazernomics but the signing of Mount and links to the guy named in the thread doesn't absolve the manager tbh.
Of course not, but that more stems from his lackluster positioning off ball and awful passing ability. He can't cover for Casemiro with any sort of competency, and fits better into a team where he's allowed to just rampage around and arrive on the edge of the box to shoot. But honestly if McTominay was 22 and coming off a storming season for another team then yes I'd probably be more confident that we could work on his deficiencies. We've just seen him for 6 years now and he's mostly the same player he was when he came into the side, so at this point for better or worse you know what you're getting.
But yes if I could put McTominay's carrying ability into Eriksen or Casemiro I'd feel 20x better about our midfield matching up with anyone. Not being able to beat a press unless you string 4 consecutive perfect passes together is such a handicap. There's a reason Pep has gone for Nunes.
How was our boy last night?
Was he any good?
Average as usual.
Did his job. Kept it simple broke up play and was solid. But obviously nothing special however if he was playing for Fulham doing the same thing he would look amazing and cost £70m.
And I assume if he did that for us he'd be on insane wages, unsellable, and a flop of the highest order? It's all starting to make sense now...
I can’t name that player since Matic tbf.
He was well below but to be fair he just lookeike A player who knew he was leaving and didn’t give a shit.
looked like someone who didn’t wanna be there, both him and Skipp were shit, they simply can’t play when pressed. Hiding from taking the ball off the CBs, to be fair though the whole team was shit, bar VdV
Looks like Spurs are loaning out Ndombele so this might end these rumours
Totally agree.
That's my thinking too.
Our squad isn't of the right quality yet where we can spunk a significant proportion of our transfer budget on squad players or "cover players". These type of signings don't improve the team-they only plug a hole when someone gets injured or fatigued and by the very nature of a typical squad player they are not going to be aas good as the player they are covering for.
It's been a strange transfer window.
I still can't get my head around whether we intended De Gea to be our No 1 GK this season albeit on reduced wages or were we planning all along to replace him.
Many of us believe that Mason Mount was a strange signing but one in which we have to have faith in ETH and believe he knows better than us.
We now seem to be staggering around the transfer market like a drunk man in a nightclub just before kicking out time.
Just no
Sounds like the last player to help usThings seem to have went quiet on this. Hopefully we just made initial contact and have decided not to pursue it any further.
I think that a lot of people comfort themselves by thinking our current manager can do no wrong. He is a bit of a genius right! Right?
If Erik wants Mount than Mount is clearly a very good player that will fit our needs perfectly. He has Eriks approval and that is all we need to know. Right?
if we don't get him now and amrabat neither, we could try a shock move for Kone or Thuram.
You’ve just suggested young exciting talents, we don’t do those over here.
Does that mean Wout Weghorst is a good player?
We just bought Hojlund get a grip!
Maybe i worded it weird? I was trying to point out that people shouldn´t take Eriks words and decisions as gospel
Fair dos, I missed the question markMaybe i worded it weird? I was trying to point out that people shouldn´t take Eriks words and decisions as gospel
. There's been a lot of mental gymnastics from ETH fans to turn this guy most mocked last season as shit into good.It means he’s creating pretend arguments to make himself look smart.
Wout was an last resort type of signing. ETH had all the option in the world and went for Mount. He knows what he wants from the player.
Can we not get him on loan instead. Feck spurs and levy giving them transfer fee.
I think whatever midfielder, if one comes in before Friday deadline will be loan along with Cucurella.
I think whatever midfielder, if one comes in before Friday deadline will be loan along with Cucurella.