Jones is far more talented than Maguire ever was. He's fecked at this point though with the lack of football and the number of injuries he's had. So Maguire's naturally going to be the better option
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Jones is far more talented than Maguire ever was. He's fecked at this point though with the lack of football and the number of injuries he's had. So Maguire's naturally going to be the better option
Probably not after his injuries, but Jones was much better than Maguire or Lindelof. Martinez reminds me of Jones.
A proper manager comes in and gets him out of that dressing room not surprised.
Yes playing counter attack in teams with very deep defensive line. Maguire is slower and less mobile than any of our other defenders. He cannot play a high line or a high press effectively.
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I believe Fletcher and Phelan are there to make sure the wheels don't fall off. They are loyal to the club, where Ralf is loyal to himself, not that there is anything wrong with that, he is after all an outsider employed by the club to do a job.
I had no idea he was still here now! But I remember reading that Phelan wasn't part of the training sessions under RR either.
Does he have an actual role at the club?
I feel sorry for this guy.
Injuries messed up his head and his career
Injuries messed up his head and his career
Some proper conspiracy theorist nonsense.
The most reasonable answer was already given:
There is no way he has been "Kicked out of the dressing room"
No way he's been fit enough to actually make it all the way from the treatment table to the dressing room
No way he's been fit enough to actually make it all the way from the treatment table to the dressing room
People go through setback, failure and disappointment all the time.
99% of people don’t even come close to achieving anything remotely comparable to what he had achieved, let alone what he was paid.
Most people in the west wake up, go to a 9-5 that they don’t enjoy, come home to watch the telly and go go sleep, maybe a decent vacation once or twice a year.
Lets not start even mentioning people in third world countries, yet no one really spares a thought.
Yet, we should all feel sorry for a guy who won PL titles, played under the greatest manager of all time, played for his country, played with some of the best players of their generation and is set for life, okie.
Cry me a river, because people go through shit all the time, some more than others but everyone does.
So he didn’t fulfill his potential and the later years of his career were ravaged by injuries, what a tragedy.
Lets put things in perspective, its only football.
Weird post. It would benefit him if that happened. Hed get wages owed through a termination.
How did you figure out that Rangnick was only loyal to himself? He said that the team needed major surgery. Guess what? After an humiliating defeat against Brendford he was proven right. We've signed 5 players this year and we'll probably sign more in January/next summer
I have no clue
Surely with Pogba, Matic, Mata, Bailly, Cavani, Lingard all going there should be space?
It’s clearly a bullshit text by The S*n. They would have us believe that there is only one first team dressing room, with space for 24 players. And that among those 24 players were Shoretire, Mengi, Williams, Tuanzebe and Jones. Despite Mengi, Williams and Tianzebe being out on loan the last season. And we should believe that these players had a regular place in this first team dressing room ahead of players like Mata, Bailly, Martial, Van de Beek, Mejbri and James (players 21-26 in the list of minutes played). And before Henderson and Heaton, who were in every troop? Evident concoction, mods should change thread title if there is nothing else.
There is no career to save. The guy is finished. He'll probably retire after the contract with us is up. The honourable thing for him would have been to call it a day in a bid to try and preserve his legacy with us. He chose not to and to be frank at this point its too late.
What an absolute trashfire of a post.
My guess is "kicked" is a whole load of crap thought bout by a journalist desperate for a "power" verb. "Asked to move his kit" is probably more to the point, if anything
Was he retroactively awarded a winner's medal when he joined a year later?
I don't care if he gets paid in full. He doesn't deserve to be called a Manchester United player. He can sit at home and scratch himself for all I care.
Even if its a level down from PL, he should be playing somewhere.
it could also be a new rule implemented by the boss , something like “you take first team duties then you stay here”. Kind of making everyone work harder and earn that dressing room spot.
Still doesn't change the fact he would be thankful if is contract got terminated.
Still a bit of an out there view. You don't like he's getting paid without playing so you want him to get paid without playing. Ok.
I want him to piss off out the door. Get it? Or shall I break it down for you further?
Assuming his contract is 50% guaranteed … Imagine being paid 1.5m every year just to stay physically fit … and he can’t even do that. He has had an absolute beast of a career at United!
It says there is physically only space for 24 players, no?
Yeah that's not a thing that actually happens. A club can't just decide to terminate a players contract unilaterally.
He is apparently paid about £4.5 a year.
Yeah if fit, a long time ago maybe.
If fit should be the title of Phil's autobiography that's he's releasing next year.
If Fit: The Phil Jones Story.
May be journalistic freedom?
My hypothesis is that ETH is making them earn everything and this action would align with that thought.
From the best ever player to play for United to literally being moved to the basement.
From the best ever player to play for United to literally being moved to the basement.
Next he'll be moved to a cupboard on his own.
We signed 5 players to replace them
Maybe the bit about the space issue but wouldn't be surprising at all if he's been kicked out because the manager doesn't want him in there. That has happened plenty of times in plenty of clubs, and ETH has been very vocal about creating a core of players with the right mentality. He won't want wasters like Jones poisoning the soup.
Of course it can, if it pays the remainder of the money owed. Most normal players will take some kind of mutual agreement to move on and play somewhere else though.
What legacy? No way is he going to turndown a £75k a week contract offer, to preserve some kind of ”legacy”, who cares really. He’d be lucky to get a third of that at any other club if he moved, and probably would only be offered an appearance based salary. Nobody is taking such a huge pay cut when there’s an offer on the table. Any work he takes in retirement also will not come anywhere near to £75k a week. It’s entirely on the club.
I bet he gets that paid twice a minute.
Their source is The Sun.
As said before, this is probably Jones's last contract in football and he's probably aware of it himself. Having said that he could have left football with his head held high if he retired prior the end of his contract. Various players did that like for example Van Basten who retired against Milan's will because they simply couldn't believe that someone with such talent is gone. Some even took it to a step further by retiring before they became a burden on their club. I am referring to the likes of Roberto Baggio who retired despite scoring 12 goals and 11 assists in 26 games or Eric Cantona who fecked off the moment SAF mentioned the bench. Sure Jones is nowhere near to that level of player. However he most certainly made equal/more money then them in football and he could afford retiring without becoming a walking/talking meme. Don't take me wrong, I put the blame on the club for giving him that silly contract in the first place. However I can't help asking myself were is Jones's pride in all of that. Is he really that happy to retire knowing that he'll always be remembered as a joke? I mean Gaz still regrets not retiring early and you can see the pain in his eyes whenever he speaks about that (he's not alone the likes of Baresi share the same view). Now these are players who won everything and despite all that, those extra few months still sting on their conscience. What does Jones have to look back at?
Is he currently injured, or is he fit to play?
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