Phil Jones Future | Reports: Observing United academy sessions

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8 players for 2 places

Lisandro
Varane
Maguire
Lindelof
Bailly
Tuanzebe
Mengi
Jones

Good luck
 
Hope he goes finally but assume it will be next summer as we all know he likes getting paid.

The fact he’s linked to the MLS after playing 10 straight years of benchwarmer for us is actually quite embarrassing for a professional.

Where was the professional pride to move on and prove himself in first team football?

Exactly the worst kind of player to sign.

The day he signed for us his football journey was over basically.
 
Hope he goes finally but assume it will be next summer as we all know he likes getting paid.

The fact he’s linked to the MLS after playing 10 straight years of benchwarmer for us is actually quite embarrassing for a professional.

Where was the professional pride to move on and prove himself in first team football?

Exactly the worst kind of player to sign.

The day he signed for us his football journey was over basically.

That's ridiculous. Guy played in CL knockout games, won a league title and a European trophy and played under the best manager the club has ever had.
 
Hope he goes finally but assume it will be next summer as we all know he likes getting paid.

The fact he’s linked to the MLS after playing 10 straight years of benchwarmer for us is actually quite embarrassing for a professional.

Where was the professional pride to move on and prove himself in first team football?

Exactly the worst kind of player to sign.

The day he signed for us his football journey was over basically.
Complete hogwash.

The day his top flight football career died is the day his knee gave out
 
There's no real advantage for Jonesy moving this summer is there really.

At best it'd be a deal where we have to foot the bill for a huge % of the wage, and anywhere he goes will be a step down in facilities, medical stuff etc.
We've struggled to keep him fit for goodness sake, imagine going down to some mid table championship team.
 
There's no real advantage for Jonesy moving this summer is there really.

At best it'd be a deal where we have to foot the bill for a huge % of the wage, and anywhere he goes will be a step down in facilities, medical stuff etc.
We've struggled to keep him fit for goodness sake, imagine going down to some mid table championship team.
Isn't he fit at the moment? I assumed since the Wolves game he's been available. He can't stay at United and pass up the opportunity to actually play football out of fear he might get injured and won't have United's facilities on hand. For his own mental health being selected and featuring appears to be massively important, so fair play to him. It's time to give it a shot elsewhere.
 
Isn't he fit at the moment? I assumed since the Wolves game he's been available. He can't stay at United and pass up the opportunity to actually play football out of fear he might get injured and won't have United's facilities on hand. For his own mental health being selected and featuring appears to be massively important, so fair play to him. It's time to give it a shot elsewhere.
He had a chance to go on loan and play football in France for half a year but he rejected it and chose to spend his time in the training ground/physio room/wherever. Will most likely do the same to DC United because why wouldn't he, now he earns money doing pretty much feck all and will surely get a new contract offer from us soon enough.
 
8 players for 2 places

Lisandro
Varane
Maguire
Lindelof
Bailly
Tuanzebe
Mengi
Jones

Good luck

Mengi, Tuanzebe aren't really first team quality, so it's strange to include them in your list. Jones is perma-injured, so no serious club would consider him even a fallback option.

Realistically, we have Martinez, Varane, Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly.

I think we'll end up selling one (probably Bailly).

4 senior CBs is pretty standard.

The more logical criticism is we spend more money in wages at CB than basically any other team: Varane 250k, Maguire 180k, Lindelof 120k, Martinez 120k = 570k p/w in CB wages. City on the other hand have Stones (250k), Laporte (120k), Dias (120k), Ake (90k) = 480k p/w in CB wages.
 
Is his new contract the worst one in PL history?

I don’t know why we did it generally. But why a long term contract?

Really really weird. He’s basically gone 10 years without playing football
 
He had a chance to go on loan and play football in France for half a year but he rejected it and chose to spend his time in the training ground/physio room/wherever. Will most likely do the same to DC United because why wouldn't he, now he earns money doing pretty much feck all and will surely get a new contract offer from us soon enough.
No, he did not. He had a chance to go to France and warm the bench. Why the feck would he go all the way there for half a season with a low chance of playing.

This has to be one of the worst threads on the cad.
 
No, he did not. He had a chance to go to France and warm the bench. Why the feck would he go all the way there for half a season with a low chance of playing.

This has to be one of the worst threads on the cad.
How do you know this? Should any player ever be guaranteed to be a starter?
 
No, he did not. He had a chance to go to France and warm the bench. Why the feck would he go all the way there for half a season with a low chance of playing.

This has to be one of the worst threads on the cad.
Warm the bench at the worst team in Ligue 1who were leaking goals for fun? What is Jones's level then if he can't get into this kind of team? How is this guy still here is unexplainable.
 
Complete hogwash.

The day his top flight football career died is the day his knee gave out
When was that 2014? After that Madrid game? Done sod all ever since.

He won the Europa League at the biggest club on the planet as a sub. Well done.
 
I've never understood the hate for him.
Hes been incredibly unlucky with injuries he always gave absolutely everything for Utd when he played.
I hope he gets a fresh start somewhere and actually gets to play some football.
There have been plenty of players in recent years who have stole a living at utd Jones isn't one of them.
 
When was that 2014? After that Madrid game? Done sod all ever since.

He won the Europa League at the biggest club on the planet as a sub. Well done.
Let’s look at your sentence

“his career ended the day he joined United”

horrendous post Son
 
How do you know this? Should any player ever be guaranteed to be a starter?
The same way that you know he was offered a loan move...

Warm the bench at the worst team in Ligue 1who were leaking goals for fun? What is Jones's level then if he can't get into this kind of team? How is this guy still here is unexplainable.
Blame Woodward and Ole, not the player.
 
I've never understood the hate for him.
Hes been incredibly unlucky with injuries he always gave absolutely everything for Utd when he played.
I hope he gets a fresh start somewhere and actually gets to play some football.
There have been plenty of players in recent years who have stole a living at utd Jones isn't one of them.
I think the hate is frustration of watching a player that never contributes on the pitch, that is just a name on the books for year after year. Its because of a stupid policy of giving new contracts to fringe players to prevent losing them on a free. Hopefully that policy is now over with all the players that left on a free this summer.

Jones was once a great prospect and its a shame to see how his career is turning out to be influenced by injuries. It doesn't help him that he plays for one of the biggest clubs in the world where the spotlight is always on you.

It would be great if he could get his health right and find a lower table PL team, and get 3-5 seasons of football before he hangs up his boots.
 
Extending his contract is one of the worst pieces of business I've ever seen from a club of our size. It made no sense at the time and looks just as stupid now.

It seems he isn't attracting suitors and is paid handsomely at United. For his sake and United's, I really hope he leaves this summer and that will help trim a massive wage bill. I'd honestly waive a transfer fee like Arsenal did with Willian and Aubameyang just to get rid if possible because there's literally no benefit in him staying here. I mean he didn't even make the pre season trip ffs.
 
Mengi, Tuanzebe aren't really first team quality, so it's strange to include them in your list. Jones is perma-injured, so no serious club would consider him even a fallback option.

Realistically, we have Martinez, Varane, Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly.

I think we'll end up selling one (probably Bailly).

4 senior CBs is pretty standard.

The more logical criticism is we spend more money in wages at CB than basically any other team: Varane 250k, Maguire 180k, Lindelof 120k, Martinez 120k = 570k p/w in CB wages. City on the other hand have Stones (250k), Laporte (120k), Dias (120k), Ake (90k) = 480k p/w in CB wages.

I get really frustrated by players on big wages with minimal contribution. Pay as you play should be used more often. Or variable salary based on official match ratings.
 
I think he'll just retire at the end of his contract

He's permainjured, he would be better off trying to get coaching lessons from Hag, Gaag and McClaag.
 
I recall two games where he played last season and he was decent, then never appeared again. I’m not saying he should be getting another shot here, but surely there’s still some sort of player in him, either for the championship or a lesser league.
 
At this point I would let him leave on a season long loan with us paying all the wages.

That's the most likely scenario for him to get a decent loan. If he doesn't go on loan this year he'll have barely played in 3-4 years so finding a new club while out of contract next year will be difficult for him.
 
The same way that you know he was offered a loan move...


Blame Woodward and Ole, not the player.

Hear, hear Ole always gets a free ride on here. Let's not forget it was also Ole's fault we signed Sanchez on that ridiculous contract, why we overpaid for Fellaini by letting his clause elapse and missing out on Hazard.
 
Hear, hear Ole always gets a free ride on here. Let's not forget it was also Ole's fault we signed Sanchez on that ridiculous contract, why we overpaid for Fellaini by letting his clause elapse and missing out on Hazard.
It was always fairly obvious to me that Ole as manager was to blame for us missing out on Ronaldinho. Ho hum.
 
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