Dodgepot mode today.
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In the first half I thought he was good but second half poor. Long term I'm not sure if he's good enough to be first choice for us, I wouldn't mind seeing us get someone else in.
Smalling takes too much flack compared to Jones, when they are both equally as bad. Jones is an absolute liability at times, any ball over the top of him or in the air within his vicinity is a calamity waiting to happen, especially with a striker nearby.
His positioning from the back when we're in possession is diabolical. Has his hands up and never makes himself available for a pass.
Never mind his general clumsiness and unease with defending.
Get rid and ASAP imo.
Never mind his general clumsiness and unease with defending.
Get rid and ASAP imo.
At least he openly admitted that the team was not good enough and deserved to loose, unlike Murinho who spoke some of his box to box again. I hope we get the act together.
I think I am done with any expectation of him ever fulfilling his potential. Now I am happy with him being a good squad player, but that's it. Expect us to upgrade or turning to other CBs and try to work them to fulfill their potential, and less of both Smalling and Jones starting in the future.
He’s a very poor mans John Terry.
Jones needs to go. Neither him nor Smalling are the answer, and we’ve let them have far too much time to try and show they are.
Jones needs to go. Neither him nor Smalling are the answer, and we’ve let them have far too much time to try and show they are.
In general, I can't think of many times he has won headers. His defending skills are more about tackling, intercepting.
He didn't even compete for the header, losing headers in dangerous zones puts us under lot of pressure. He should have lot better for goal against Newcastle and against Spurs.
Apart from Smalling (thanks to his height), we don't have a single CB who is dominant in the air. In my opinion that's a real issue often overlooked in our CBs.
Injured yet again then it seems.
Source? Might be a blessing in disguise.
Mourinho claimed that he didn't have any players fit other than the 18 yesterday, hence the two kids on the bench who played the day before.
Taken from the Metro :
"Jose Mourinho has revealed that Phil Jones and Marcos Rojo will miss Manchester United’s Champions League clash with Sevilla on Wednesday. The United manager admits he was unable to rest his key players for the FA Cup tie against Huddersfield Town on Saturday as Romelu Lukaku’s double sealed a 2-0 victory. Several first-team players missed the match due to injury and while Mourinho expects Marcus Rashford, Antonio Valencia and Ander Herrera to recover for the trip to Spain this week, Jones and Rojo are set to miss out. Pogba, meanwhile, was unable to play against Huddersfield due to illness, but the midfielder reportedly attended training on Sunday which indicates that he could be involved against Sevilla."
Does any one else not just feel exasperated with him and Smalling? its always something. I would like us to start a clean slate in the summer, sell both. Buy a new defender and promote Tuanzebe please.
Smalling just come off the back of a very good display and still people are moaning about him. Guy is the best player we have at defending and winning headers. If it were so easy to replace him I'm sure one of Sir Alex, Moyes, Van Gaal of Jose would have done so.
Fans keep looking at minor incidents in games and not the actual overall record of our defensive unit. Yes there's room for improvement, but some of you would just sell everyone and discover these magical replacements who are all available.
Jones is our best CB and Smalling is consistently fit and a good CB to step in so no thanks.
They dont work well together. I think someone else mentioned this earlier but both are classical defenders i.e. clear the ball at all costs. In 2018, clearing the ball just isnt good enough. You need to be able to pick a pass out or hold the ball under pressure. Hopefully, going forward neither start together. Both are wonderful defenders, just not very good footballers.
I feel more exasperation with those who expect Smalling and Jones to defend at a high level but also be close to Beckenbauer and Baresi on the ball.
Satisfying tbh.
Will definitely keep Jones and not sell him. Very good defender on his days. Only problem is when he's having a day off, he really, really has a day off and plays all over the place, but these are random games here and there, mostly a very good defender.
Yeah he’s been exceptional for about 90% of the time, but that other 10% he’s an absolute train wreck, and that’s why people want rid. I rate him highly but he’s still got a lot to learn when it comes to defending space rather than constantly attacking the ball/engaging the man.
Worth keeping, but he needs to be kept away from Smalling.
Has yet to play single minute in CL this season(or any other competition besides PL). Let's sell Smalling because he is unreliable.
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More like acceptable, until we're attacked with a little vigour. Anyway, just seen he's injured again. Christ
He's been on and off injured almost all his career here. In other top teams, he'd be sold years ago. But at United, we must keep him at all cost, as he can pass the ball forward.
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He's missed 37 premier league games since the start of 15/16 season. It's getting ridiculous.
Is he still alive? What's his injury status?
It's a decent probability that Scott McTominay will have played more games for Manchester United's first team than Phil Jones come the end of this season.
...In what will probably be Phil's best season overall. Im sorry Jones, but the time has come.s
...In what will probably be Phil's best season overall. Im sorry Jones, but the time has come.s
Only problem is, he will find ways of getting injured. Sell him before we sell any of our other CBs. Smalling despite his fault is a very good back up CB. Jones is neither a starter, nor a reliable CB because he will always be injured anyway. Ridiculously crocked up body which will only get worse.
I don't think he's injured. AFter that horror show against Spurs, Jose simply doesn't trust in him anymore.
It's not about injury that he's not playing.
Baily and Jones are the best CB partner by far. Rojo has missed a lot more through injury, but everyone seems to be talking about Jones. If we're gonna sell, Rojo needs to go ahead of Jones.
It's not about injury that he's not playing.
Baily and Jones are the best CB partner by far. Rojo has missed a lot more through injury, but everyone seems to be talking about Jones. If we're gonna sell, Rojo needs to go ahead of Jones.
Rojo has had 2 injury issues, one was a shoulder dislocation, the other an ACL. He is not as injury prone as Jones, no one in the club is. Heck even Falcao had a better injury record when he was here.
Rojo is injury prone. He's missed 71 games through injury since he joined United 4 seasons ago. That's almost two full seasons! His injury record before he joined United is actually not quite as bad. Jones has missed 73 games in the same time period
Rojo's record (taken from transfermarkt)
17/18 Cruciate ligament injury Apr 20, 2017 Nov 17, 2017 211 days 29
17/18 Head injury Dec 10, 2017 Dec 16, 2017 6 days 2
15/16 Wound Jul 6, 2015 Sep 3, 2015 59 days 6
15/16 Thigh Muscle Strain Sep 21, 2015 Oct 15, 2015 24 days 4
15/16 Shoulder injury Dec 3, 2015 Feb 25, 2016 84 days 18
14/15 Shoulder injury Nov 3, 2014 Nov 27, 2014 24 days 2
14/15 thigh knock Dec 8, 2014 Jan 1, 2015 24 days 6
14/15 groin strain Apr 13, 2015 May 14, 2015 31 days 4
13/14 Knee Problems Jul 22, 2013 Jul 29, 2013 7 days -
13/14 Twisted knee Aug 8, 2013 Aug 15, 2013 7 days -
13/14 Arm injury Sep 2, 2013 Sep 19, 2013 17 days 1
12/13 Thigh problems Oct 15, 2012 Oct 22, 2012 7 days 1
12/13 Hamstring Injury Jan 21, 2013 Feb 21, 2013 31 days 4
11/12 Malleolar injury Nov 3, 2011 Dec 1, 2011 28 days 3
10/11 Thigh problems May 5, 2011 May 26, 2011 21 days
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Could be the case. Its rumored Jose had a huge argument with Jones and Pogba in the dressing room following the Newcastle defeat
Where did you hear that? I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. Jose has always had reliable CBs in his teams, in his tenure here he has always trusted Jones when fit, I wouldn't say Jones has repaid him accordingly.
whether he is injured or whatever , his time here is done , as much as i don't like smalling at least he is available, this sicknote isn't , wasting our wage week in week out
I’d prefer him to be utilized as a right back or on the right of a three moving forward; he has a lot of qualities, but his decision making sometimes is moronic and can’t be rescued while playing centrally.
I always liked him best as a DM.
Fergie played him there occasionally and I liked it. He had two defenders behind him to cover his silly mindfart mistakes. And he generally likes to get his foot (and head) stuck in.
We've never had 2 CBs fit since Rio and Vidic left though, so we've never had the option to do it.
Fergie played him there occasionally and I liked it. He had two defenders behind him to cover his silly mindfart mistakes. And he generally likes to get his foot (and head) stuck in.
We've never had 2 CBs fit since Rio and Vidic left though, so we've never had the option to do it.
A chocolate teapot is more reliable.
Wait what, that's not very relia..... Oh!
Rojo is injury prone. He's missed 71 games through injury since he joined United 4 seasons ago. That's almost two full seasons! His injury record before he joined United is actually not quite as bad. Jones has missed 73 games in the same time period
Rojo's record (taken from transfermarkt)
17/18 Cruciate ligament injury Apr 20, 2017 Nov 17, 2017 211 days 29
17/18 Head injury Dec 10, 2017 Dec 16, 2017 6 days 2
15/16 Wound Jul 6, 2015 Sep 3, 2015 59 days 6
15/16 Thigh Muscle Strain Sep 21, 2015 Oct 15, 2015 24 days 4
15/16 Shoulder injury Dec 3, 2015 Feb 25, 2016 84 days 18
14/15 Shoulder injury Nov 3, 2014 Nov 27, 2014 24 days 2
14/15 thigh knock Dec 8, 2014 Jan 1, 2015 24 days 6
14/15 groin strain Apr 13, 2015 May 14, 2015 31 days 4
13/14 Knee Problems Jul 22, 2013 Jul 29, 2013 7 days -
13/14 Twisted knee Aug 8, 2013 Aug 15, 2013 7 days -
13/14 Arm injury Sep 2, 2013 Sep 19, 2013 17 days 1
12/13 Thigh problems Oct 15, 2012 Oct 22, 2012 7 days 1
12/13 Hamstring Injury Jan 21, 2013 Feb 21, 2013 31 days 4
11/12 Malleolar injury Nov 3, 2011 Dec 1, 2011 28 days 3
10/11 Thigh problems May 5, 2011 May 26, 2011 21 days
Though, two of Rojo's major injuries account for more than 60% of the games he has missed.
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