It's annoying. How must the scousers feel with Sturridge who is borderline world class when fit, which is never.
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It's annoying. How must the scousers feel with Sturridge who is borderline world class when fit, which is never.
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I have CBJ on my fantasy team so this is brilliant news for me.
Sell him.
It's not his fault he's injured but it does seem like his time at the club is coming to an end. It's a shame because he could have been a real long-term solution for us.
Think he needs to go this summer
He needs to get in on that hat business with Daniel Sturridge.
Wants taking out the back, Sorry but with TFM, Roshaun Williams and Tuanzebe behind him he shouldn't have a sniff here long term, try and get rid to someone like Everton in the summer.
What the actual feck? Did he get injured again while playing for the U21 yesterday?
Stones for 60m, or Jones plus 100m (have to factor in compensation for Jones injuring 50% of their players on the training ground).
Should've been shipped out long ago.
Guy has been stealing a living for too long. Get rid.
It's time to get rid. Not his fault he's getting injured, but even when he fit, he's never really struck me as top class.
Didn't play yesterday, only played 60 mins against Norwich too. Bizarre!
We should have offered him "pay as you play" contract. Not that I care about money though, but I seriously don't see the point of him this season. He injured himself even though he wasn't fit anyway, and what's frustrating is that everyone expected something like that.
Thing is, he'd probably stay fit for a midtable club... less rigorous demands in training combined with less pressure in general will probably be a better enviornment for his body.
Expect Stoke to stump up a decent fee for him in the summer.
Expect Stoke to stump up a decent fee for him in the summer.
He's not even that good when healthy so it would be best to sell him in the summer.
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Feel sorry for him.
Flog him to China
So do I, but he is not much use to us if he is always injured.Feel sorry for him.
He's made of china.
He actually is very good, or very talented for that matter, and this might be what saves him.
Though it's hard to imagine him ever getting fit for a good period of time and his reckless style might be a big factor in his injuries, who knows what will happen.
Smalling was injured quite a lot until he was 23 years of age, he has now finally managed to be fit for 25 out of 38 league games three seasons in row. That's only 65% of our league matches though, hardly an impressive number.
Talented as they might be, TFM, Williams and Tuanzebe are babies, normally it would take them at least two more years before you can expect them to play a good part in a team that challenges for the Premier League.
Though it's hard to imagine him ever getting fit for a good period of time and his reckless style might be a big factor in his injuries, who knows what will happen.
Smalling was injured quite a lot until he was 23 years of age, he has now finally managed to be fit for 25 out of 38 league games three seasons in row. That's only 65% of our league matches though, hardly an impressive number.
Talented as they might be, TFM, Williams and Tuanzebe are babies, normally it would take them at least two more years before you can expect them to play a good part in a team that challenges for the Premier League.
For a long time I thought he was a better bet than Smalling, seems I was very wrong.
Still not sure we'll sell him though.
Still not sure we'll sell him though.
With the tale tend youngsters we have coming up and another CB I think we will buy, there's no place for him here. Needs to go.
Exactly this, I fail to see why we should keep him. He's been very average for two years now, with the odd good game as an exception.
Is he though? He did well in his first season for us, ever since then he has been bang average.
This is the thing.
If we were talking about a Maldini level player then the injuries would be worth putting up with. But Jones is rather rubbish anyway. I don't see the point in him staying
Bang avarage my ass. Just last year he was going from perma-crock to looking truly excellent next to Smalling in crucial games (like in the only half decent spell we've had under Van Gaal near the end of last season), after which he has gone back into perma-crock mode. For me that's not average, it's a talented player struggling with injuries.
Smalling vs. Jones making the match-day squad (league only):
Smalling
10/11 - 11 starts, 5 subbed in, 17 remained on the bench (33/38)
11/12 - 14 starts, 5 subbed in, 3 remained on the bench (22/38)
12/13 - 10 starts, 5 subbed in, 4 remained on the bench (19/38)
13/14 - 21 starts, 4 subbed in, 5 remained on the bench (30/38)
14/15 - 21 starts, 4 subbed in, 5 remained on the bench (30/38)
15/16 - 24 starts, 0 subbed in, 0 remained on the bench (24/25)
158/215 - 73.48%
Jones
11/12 - 25 starts, 4 subbed in, 2 remained on the bench (31/38)
12/13 - 13 starts, 4 subbed in, 2 remained on the bench (19/38)
13/14 - 26 starts, 0 subbed in, 0 remained on the bench (26/38)
14/15 - 22 starts, 0 subbed in, 2 remained on the bench (24/38)
15/16 - 6 starts, 4 subbed in, 1 remained on the bench (11/25)
111/177 - 62.71%
Smalling
10/11 - 11 starts, 5 subbed in, 17 remained on the bench (33/38)
11/12 - 14 starts, 5 subbed in, 3 remained on the bench (22/38)
12/13 - 10 starts, 5 subbed in, 4 remained on the bench (19/38)
13/14 - 21 starts, 4 subbed in, 5 remained on the bench (30/38)
14/15 - 21 starts, 4 subbed in, 5 remained on the bench (30/38)
15/16 - 24 starts, 0 subbed in, 0 remained on the bench (24/25)
158/215 - 73.48%
Jones
11/12 - 25 starts, 4 subbed in, 2 remained on the bench (31/38)
12/13 - 13 starts, 4 subbed in, 2 remained on the bench (19/38)
13/14 - 26 starts, 0 subbed in, 0 remained on the bench (26/38)
14/15 - 22 starts, 0 subbed in, 2 remained on the bench (24/38)
15/16 - 6 starts, 4 subbed in, 1 remained on the bench (11/25)
111/177 - 62.71%
Let's be honest, none of us actually factored him playing for us for the rest of the season anyway.
"When is Jones due back?" Said no one ever.
"When is Jones due back?" Said no one ever.
He's giving Saha a run for his money. Though run is probably a poor choice to describe it.
I trust the Club to make the decision wether to keep him or not.
Smalling has not been injury free before this season either and look how important he is to us now.
Smalling has not been injury free before this season either and look how important he is to us now.
If we get a top centre back in during the summer then he should be let go. What we shouldn't do is sell him because of his injuries irrespective of transfers and screw ourselves over with a thin squad.
This generation of English players seem to be constantly injured.
This generation of English players seem to be constantly injured.
Sorry to say but I'm afraid a lot of people disagree with that statement. He never looked truly excellent at any stage over the last two years. The whole team was playing better at that time and we placed ourselves into a better position throughout the game by scoring early and keeping the ball for the rest of the game. I certainly seem to recall Jones was often caught making silly mistakes, forcing other players to cover him (Which was usually Smalling). Blind has looked more impressive and suits Smalling a lot better than Jones and he is not even a natural CB, this speaks terms really. Even if Jones would be fit, I would expect Blind to keep his place next to Smalling since CBJ is playing excellent, which gives O reason for Blind to move to that LB spot as long as CBJ is fit/playing well.
If he somehow manages to stay fit, hopefully he will prove me wrong. His constant injuries are very worrying though and his average form when he does decide to stay fit for more than two games, does not strike me with confidence this lad will make it here. The problem we've had at United for a longtime is the reluctance of moving players on when it is so bloody obvious they are either past it or simply not up to "United standard". I believe this to be one of the main mistakes SAF made in his last few years of his career which has only made it more difficult for the last two managers to try and sort this mess. I am not going to praise LVG for many things but he has moved on players who did not seem to be up to standard very quickly here since his arrival. So far, it seems he got most of them right with the exception of Hernandez. Most players who have left united have been bang average at their new clubs, which only goes on to show many of these were rightfully let go.
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Problem here is that while the club has him on the books, we are not all that keen on really making a push for another very good CB. Really wish for him and us he'd find a solution to this constant being on the sidelines or at least then just say, the club deserves better after sticking with me for so long that he asks to move on his own.
I was convinced when we signed him that he is going to be one of the best in the world, but he's been here for almost 5 years now and he hasn't really improved much.
Very much in the camp of 'he's not a good defender even when fit'. The fact he can't get fit or stay fit just makes the idea of him staying around even more ridiculous to me.
This.
I feel bad for him having a stop/start career, but unfortunately we need people in the team we can depend on. Can't be injured for more than three quarters of a season earning ridiculous money.
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