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Squad player nothing more. Blind is the same.
 
Maybe we should loan him out. He's young enough to get over the injuries and his contract runs long enough.
 
If someone offers decent money, I would sell.

Shame we can't sell some of our "fans" who slate a guy for getting injured!

It's frustrating, but don't you think it is for him too?!
 
I'm usually one who defends him, but if he can't stay fit, he shouldn't be surprised if we are looking for different solutions.
I agree we need to get someone else. I think unfortunately Phil should be sold. He is not even an option on the bench as he is capable of getting injured running from there to the touchline.
 
Except he's actually quite good.
Good at getting injured? Yes. Good as a first team player for Manchester United? No. Squad player at the very best, hate seeing him on the field if I'm honest.
 
Good at getting injured? Yes. Good as a first team player for Manchester United? No. Squad player at the very best, hate seeing him on the field if I'm honest.
You hate him seeing even when he's not injured? Ridiculous.
 
You hate him seeing even when he's not injured? Ridiculous.
Yes, because I don't think he's good enough to play for us. Go watch Norwich first goal a few weeks back, look at his half assed challenge, how easily he's beaten. Then, watch the second goal, and look at how easily he's beaten there too. He's regularly caught out of position. His passing isn't good enough, and to top it all off, he's injury prone. So yes, I generally hate seeing him on the pitch as it means we have injuries. He should not be first choice.
 
Yes, because I don't think he's good enough to play for us. Go watch Norwich first goal a few weeks back, look at his half assed challenge, how easily he's beaten. Then, watch the second goal, and look at how easily he's beaten there too. He's regularly caught out of position. His passing isn't good enough, and to top it all off, he's injury prone. So yes, I generally hate seeing him on the pitch as it means we have injuries. He should not be first choice.
He had a bad game that day, true. But he's generally one of the best one-on-one defenders in the country and that's not the kind of mistake you'd usually associate with him. The fact you think he's regularly caught out of position speaks volumes about the bias you must watch him with.

He's been a first choice pick under Allardyce, Fergie, Capello and now LvG. When he's fit he ALWAYS plays, because he's a top defender.
 
He had a bad game that day, true. But he's generally one of the best one-on-one defenders in the country and that's not the kind of mistake you'd usually associate with him. The fact you think he's regularly caught out of position speaks volumes about the bias you must watch him with.

He's been a first choice pick under Allardyce, Fergie, Capello and now LvG. When he's fit he ALWAYS plays, because he's a top defender.
True enough, none of those managers ever make mistakes. I don't think I'm remotely biased to be honest, he's regularly caught out of position, causing him to make those last ditch lunging challenges that have spawned a thousand memes, due to the looks on his face as he dives in.

We'll just have to agree to differ. He's not even close to Smalling, let alone to the level of the likes of Rio, Vida, Pally, Bruce etc. We should be striving for far better than Phil Jones.
 
“Phil Jones is injured, and it's more or less the same injury as before," van Gaal said.
 
True enough, none of those managers ever make mistakes. I don't think I'm remotely biased to be honest, he's regularly caught out of position, causing him to make those last ditch lunging challenges that have spawned a thousand memes, due to the looks on his face as he dives in.

We'll just have to agree to differ. He's not even close to Smalling, let alone to the level of the likes of Rio, Vida, Pally, Bruce etc. We should be striving for far better than Phil Jones.
But it's highly unlikely they'd all make the same mistake, over and over, in every single game.

The memes are the reason people underrate him, imo. He has a reputation for being stupid that's totally undeserved. It's like something out of a high school popularity contest.

Blind gets caught out of position far more, but is seen as footballing genius for some reason.
“Phil Jones is injured, and it's more or less the same injury as before," van Gaal said.
So the management team brought him back to quickly. Let's all hang Jones for their mistake.
 
Phil Jones has signed a spokesmanship deal with NHS, seeing that he's always there.

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But it's highly unlikely they'd all make the same mistake, over and over, in every single game.

The memes are the reason people underrate him, imo. He has a reputation for being stupid that's totally undeserved. It's like something out of a high school popularity contest.

Blind gets caught out of position far more, but is seen as footballing genius for some reason.

So the management team brought him back to quickly. Let's all hang Jones for their mistake.
Blind isn't good enough either. I don't know who thinks he's a footballing genius. He shouldn't be more than a squad player either.
 
Blind isn't good enough either. I don't know who thinks he's a footballing genius. He shouldn't be more than a squad player either.
People laud Blind's 'footballing intelligence' but rarely mention the fact that Jones makes far fewer mistakes overall. He's anything but a stupid player.
 
People laud Blind's 'footballing intelligence' but rarely mention the fact that Jones makes far fewer mistakes overall. He's anything but a stupid player.
While I agree that Blind makes a lot of mistakes ... I definitely don't think Jones makes a lot less. Similar number of mistakes in my opinion, Jones physicality gets him out of a lot whereas Blind has to resort to tugging people back etc when he's beaten easily.
 
He had a bad game that day, true. But he's generally one of the best one-on-one defenders in the country and that's not the kind of mistake you'd usually associate with him. The fact you think he's regularly caught out of position speaks volumes about the bias you must watch him with.

He's been a first choice pick under Allardyce, Fergie, Capello and now LvG. When he's fit he ALWAYS plays, because he's a top defender.

You're literally the only one defending him. He's been poor for a long while.

Even when Smalling was getting injured or played out of position, there was a lot of posters on here that could recognise his qualities. The same can't be said of Jones.
 
Always like this - Phil Jones:A professional hospital patient whose career has been blighted by appearances for Manchester United.
 
You're literally the only one defending him. He's been poor for a long while.

Even when Smalling was getting injured or played out of position, there was a lot of posters on here that could recognise his qualities. The same can't be said of Jones.
Look at the posts over the last couple of pages. He's got pilloried for having a error-free game against Stoke and an injury due to being brought back too quickly against Swansea. That's the level of prejudice I'm trying to redress.
 
If he ever gets over his injury problems he'll be a fantastic defender. Big if though.
 
Look at the posts over the last couple of pages. He's got pilloried for having a error-free game against Stoke and an injury against Swansea. That's the level of prejudice I'm trying to redress.

Thank you. I can handle people being annoyed by his injury record but I don't get this idea that he's a crap defender. It's simply not the case. His performance level has generally been good. No idea why people can't see this
 
You're literally the only one defending him. He's been poor for a long while.

Even when Smalling was getting injured or played out of position, there was a lot of posters on here that could recognise his qualities. The same can't be said of Jones.

That's literally not true. Jones is a hugely talented young defender. Every manager that's worked with him has recognised that. The only thing stopping him is the injuries.
 
If he ever gets over his injury problems he'll be a fantastic defender. Big if though.
He will

Up to the medical team to find a solution for him. Which I am sure they are trying To do.

Only 23 and would be gutted if Utd gave up on him.
 
Thank you. I can handle people being annoyed by his injury record but I don't get this idea that he's a crap defender. It's simply not the case. His performance level has generally been good. No idea why people can't see this

He's on a very similar path to Chris Smalling. I still remember this criticism he was getting after the sending off against City, last season. I thought both were pretty average, and with the injuries, I didn't have much faith in either. However, Mike has been brilliant this year and the key has been... playing, consistently, as a centre back. We should allow Jones the same belief, patience and time.
 
Blind isn't good enough either. I don't know who thinks he's a footballing genius. He shouldn't be more than a squad player either.

Go to his thread. It's page upon page of waffle about him being the cleverest player in the history of the world and a better passer that Pirlo. It's fecking weird. I genuinely can't fault the lad. He hasn't really let us down but you can see a mile away that he's a limited player scraping by by the skin of his teeth
 
He will

Up to the medical team to find a solution for him. Which I am sure they are trying To do.

Only 23 and would be gutted if Utd gave up on him.

What is it now, his 5th season here? And we're still pretty much saying the same things!
Still hope for a Smalling esque emergence
 
He's on a very similar path to Chris Smalling. I still remember this criticism he was getting after the sending off against City, last season. I thought both were pretty average, and with the injuries, I didn't have much faith in either. However, Mike has been brilliant this year and the key has been... playing, consistently, as a centre back. We should allow Jones the same belief, patience and time.

Absolutely. He's a good player. Just needs a bit of luck with injuries.

He will

Up to the medical team to find a solution for him. Which I am sure they are trying To do.

Only 23 and would be gutted if Utd gave up on him.

It would be madness. Too much talent to give up on, especially at only 23 years of age
 
He will

Up to the medical team to find a solution for him. Which I am sure they are trying To do.

Only 23 and would be gutted if Utd gave up on him.

Solution for what? Ankle Injury? Thigh? Calf? Knee? Shin? Concussion?

The only cure is a brain transplant.
 
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