Unfortunately that seems to be all too common in politics these days. As someome else referenced earlier, Peterson tweeted that Kavanaugh should resign if nominated and got slammed by his heavily right-leaning support. He started backtracking (a bit spineless, imo) as a result.
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I assumed the Ronaldo reference wasn’t so much about football as the sides taken after an alleged sexual assault, where politics will dictate the outcome rather than the team supported. I presume Ronaldo is idolised in Portugal but I’d imagine left-leaning Portugese people will be more likely to side with the lady making the accusations than conservatives would.
Your general point is spot on. It seems as though society in general has got as tribal and partisan as football fans when it comes to political/social issues. Opinions are utterly predictable every time, on every topic. I blame social media, obviously!
Yeah that makes sense, too early for me to pick up such subtleties.
That is the best take-down of Harris I've read (I'd only really quibble with the bin Laden bit).
Could you summarize for me? It's quite long, and I don't have the attention span to read it.
There's too much in it to unpack in a summary. It takes Harris apart from a lot of directions, but mainly his inconsistent supposed 'rationalism' when it comes to assessing the threat of Islam, and his fraudulent use of 'science' to disguise subjective moral stances.
I'll take your word for it. I think I'm at the point where I'll have to accept my limitations and just stop trying to listen to or read about these sort of topics. I never do seem to get it to stick in my head and can't properly go through the information that is out there. At least I'll have less things to dwell on.
I'll take your word for it. I think I'm at the point where I'll have to accept my limitations and just stop trying to listen to or read about these sort of topics. I never do seem to get it to stick in my head and can't properly go through the information that is out there. At least I'll have less things to dwell on.
To give one example - it points out that while Harris bases his idea of the hypothetical requirement to torture a suspected Muslim terrorist or nuke a Muslim city in extreme circumstances on the feint possibility that it might save us all in the event that a 'radical' Muslim gets his hands on nukes, at the same time he views Islam in general as 'radical' and the 'radicals' as its most reliable interpreters and adherents. So logically he should be a lot more ready to torture and nuke than he seems to be.
Been trying to write a response, but ultimately I just get back to "how the feck can anyone ever be for nuking?" I just get stuck at understanding why someone would do a bad thing to avoid something a lot worse while at the same time refuse to acknowledge nuking a city as being a solution to a potential real life setting.
It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of "normal" people are willing to give into ideas of nuking and torture but are afraid to say so openly, and that Harris could be one of them that comes as close to saying it as he can without outright stating it.
I watched the Vancouver video, and agree with a criticism of Peterson being that he uses 50 years to give a answer to a simple question and overly complicating it instead of answering like anyone else would.
There are a lot of reasons. None of them are very good, sound, or moral. On the other hand, when has very good, sound, or moral been the check on decision making at that level?!
Did anybody see Coleman Hughes on Rubin? He seems a remarkably mature lad for his age. I wonder if he'll end up in politics
Yes hes going to the federalist and then fox business network and if he plays his cards right onto the national review.
He certainly is. It amazes me how some people can be so mature and well rounded at such a young age. All I could think about at his age was getting laid, playing/watching football and playing video games. In that order. My knowledge and understanding of politics was almost non-existent. Kudos to him
I hate to break it to you but it still is.
It's alright mate. If I've learned something, is that coming from you that's a compliment
Yes, he comes across as a younger more salient version of Harris.
If he does go into politics, that MDMA anecdote is a hell of a step up from Clinton and Obama's flirtations with weed!
Pssh. If he hasn't run through a wheat field, has he even lived?
I'm convinced our Taoiseach (Prime Minister) has done a few yolks in his time.
If Louise Mensch's twitter feed is anything to go on she's still doing coke
I reckon any aspirations she had of becoming a leader of state went down the shitter a long time ago.
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Clinton's claim not to inhale was almost less convincing than his claim that he's never sexually assaulted anyone.
Although both involved a denial of sucking...
DIV/0 ratio for the free speech warrior he is genuinely unwell. congrats to all the people who defended him on here
Christ. I imagine he thinks he’s coming across as measured and thoughtful, but he seems downright ominous to me in those clips.
yeah the way he talks is almost as insane as the things he says
Against my better judgement I watched the whole thing on youtube out of sheer boredom (think it's in the trending section). I've found some of the previous GQ interviews good I guess.
The main takeaway for me is that he's awfully boring to listen to in this format and in particular my ears perked up when I noticed how often he grossly overestimates his own wisdom and intelligence.
Noteworthy statement: I've read and studied over 200 books on climate change
Before declaring it's not serious and scaremongering. Like fcuk he's read that many books on a subject so far outside his own occupational interests.
I can't possibly roll my eyes more at the people who pay money to watch the likes of him, Harris, Rubin whoever on stage talking over this shite.
The main takeaway for me is that he's awfully boring to listen to in this format and in particular my ears perked up when I noticed how often he grossly overestimates his own wisdom and intelligence.
Noteworthy statement: I've read and studied over 200 books on climate change
Before declaring it's not serious and scaremongering. Like fcuk he's read that many books on a subject so far outside his own occupational interests.
I can't possibly roll my eyes more at the people who pay money to watch the likes of him, Harris, Rubin whoever on stage talking over this shite.
Against my better judgement I watched the whole thing on youtube out of sheer boredom (think it's in the trending section). I've found some of the previous GQ interviews good I guess.
The main takeaway for me is that he's awfully boring to listen to in this format and in particular my ears perked up when I noticed how often he grossly overestimates his own wisdom and intelligence.
Noteworthy statement: I've read and studied over 200 books on climate change
Before declaring it's not serious and scaremongering. Like fcuk he's read that many books on a subject so far outside his own occupational interests.
I can't possibly roll my eyes more at the people who pay money to watch the likes of him, Harris, Rubin whoever on stage talking over this shite.
I watched about 40 minutes of it - I'm incredibly wary of this guy as he is obviously very intelligent but there is something unsettling about him and the way he portrays his views. He is also quite aggressive in his tone and words which I don't care for. What I have noticed is that anytime an interviewer scores a hit and points out a legitimate flaw in his thinking he just dismisses it by trying to turn it back onto the interviewer or by saying he needs to research it more (which is fine but at least admit you may not have been right). Some of the stuff he says sounds kinda plausible however I don't think much of it actually holds up to scrutiny and he is clearly driven by an ideology.
He's such a pillock. Honestly, the fawning of Maajid from the western media exposes everything about what the establishment expect from minority communities. Assimilation rather than integration.
Quite how this has been seen as a revelation after all the shit he's pulled over the years is also hilarious. He's been exactly like this for as long as I've known of him.
I'm still fascinated by Peterson's beef, salt, water, and nothing else diet.
Peterson aside, the carnivore/meat only diet has become a thing recently. Will be interesting to see how it affects the IGF-1 levels and gene expression in those who stay on it for any amount of time
Have you seen him on Twitter in the last few days? Lily Allen broke him.
Care to elaborate for those of us who don’t really dabble in the Twitterverse?
In fairness he seems quite open about the fact he's a bit of a nutjob. Unfortunately some of the most influential philosophers and scientists in history were also nutjobs at various points in their life, so that can act as a false positive for people in his position...
It started when she posted an article criticising Quilliam's research into grooming gangs, and an academic/researcher on child exploitation agreed:
He started attacking the pair of them, accusing them of having a 'white saviour complex' and stating that it was racist to question him because he's of Pakistani heritage. Been on a rampage the last few days effing and blinding at anyone who bothers engaging with him.
Oh yes, I couldn't not see it. He's been like this ever since he came into prominence though, so I'm surprised at the hand ringing over it.