Peterson, Harris, etc....

It's clear that his tweets @Eboue posted are intended to stir controversy and invite a response from the liberal left though. It's not like he's accidentally quoting himself out of context and being misunderstood.

Other than posting links and videos, he should probably avoid tweeting pithy one liners as its not helping his own cause.
 
Other than posting links of videos, he should probably avoid tweeting pithy one liners as its not helping his own cause.
Sure, he was only waving hello to the feminists ;)

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Other than posting links and videos, he should probably avoid tweeting pithy one liners as its not helping his own cause.
That would imply these statements aren't part of his cause, but I see no reason to assume that. It's intentional and contributes to his popularity.
 
Other than posting links and videos, he should probably avoid tweeting pithy one liners as its not helping his own cause.
Yeah many of his tweets are idiotic and he invites much of the criticism he receives. I'd expect that from Shapiro who specializes in fullstack idiocy. But an academic should know better.
 
It's clear that his tweets @Eboue posted are intended to stir controversy and invite a response from the liberal left though. It's not like he's accidentally quoting himself out of context and being misunderstood.

Well exactly. He’s obviously enjoying his role as an agent provocateur. Doing a pretty good job at it too, judging by how his profile has sky-rocketed in the last couple of years.
 
The one thing I've learned with him is that few things are simple. He routinely goes off into longer abstract tangents where he clumsily attempts to blend academic research with rather unfunny attempts at weaving a bit of humor and levity into his presentation, which results in a sometimes incomprehensible word salad that is hard to make sense out of. If you then take one sentence out of that without context it will make even less sense.

Yeah there's that. But i also think he quite likes implying or putting forward racist / sexist / generally douchey statements and then hiding behind 'it was a rhetorical question' or 'its taken out of context etc'. I think he goes out of his way to avoid being explicit in his position to avoid ostracising the angry white dudes or ... everyone else basically.
 
Well exactly. He’s obviously enjoying his role as an agent provocateur. Doing a pretty good job at it too, judging by how his profile has sky-rocketed in the last couple of years.

Yeah, thats a good description. The more hes adopted it the less interest i have in him.
 
Yeah there's that. But i also think he quite likes implying or putting forward racist / sexist / generally douchey statements and then hiding behind 'it was a rhetorical question' or 'its taken out of context etc'. I think he goes out of his way to avoid being explicit in his position to avoid ostracising the angry white dudes or ... everyone else basically.

That's the common tactic by alot of these 'intellectual dark web' types. Vague shite so they can immediately shout 'I wouldn't be willing to die for this belief but I'm just saying'.
 
I (generally) try to be kinder to Peterson than trolls like Shapiro because he does at least have some academic expertise, but yeah, most of his tweets are fairly blunt and unless you share his political leaning are at least partially problematic.
 
Who are the leftist feminists who refuse to condemn misogynist religious regimes?

I've never watched Peterson but I think he might have Judith Butler in mind - she was quoted a few years back as describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "part of the global left" which caused a minor controversy and was seized on as an example of the Leftist-Islamist alliance.

She subsequently clarified her views which seem reasonable enough to me:

"I was asked by a member of an academic audience a few years ago whether I thought Hamas and Hezbollah belonged to “the global left” and I replied with two points. My first point was merely descriptive: those political organizations define themselves as anti-imperialist, and anti-imperialism is one characteristic of the global left, so on that basis one could describe them as part of the global left. My second point was then critical: as with any group on the left, one has to decide whether one is for that group or against that group, and one needs to critically evaluate their stand. I do not accept or endorse all groups on the global left"

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/judit...m-that-is-not-associated-with-state-violence/
 
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I've never watched Peterson but I think he might have Judith Butler in mind - she was quoted a few years back as describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "part of the global left" which caused a minor controversy and was seized on as an example of the Leftist-Islamist alliance.

She subsequently clarified her views which seem reasonable enough to me:

"I was asked by a member of an academic audience a few years ago whether I thought Hamas and Hezbollah belonged to “the global left” and I replied with two points. My first point was merely descriptive: those political organizations define themselves as anti-imperialist, and anti-imperialism is one characteristic of the global left, so on that basis one could describe them as part of the global left. My second point was then critical: as with any group on the left, one has to decide whether one is for that group or against that group, and one needs to critically evaluate their stand. I do not accept or endorse all groups on the global left"

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/judit...m-that-is-not-associated-with-state-violence/

Yikes.

I thought he may have had a point and was looking forward to seeing some actual evidence.
 
I've never watched Peterson but I think he might have Judith Butler in mind - she was quoted a few years back as describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "part of the global left" which caused a minor controversy and was seized on as an example of the Leftist-Islamist alliance.

She subsequently clarified her views which seem reasonable enough to me:

"I was asked by a member of an academic audience a few years ago whether I thought Hamas and Hezbollah belonged to “the global left” and I replied with two points. My first point was merely descriptive: those political organizations define themselves as anti-imperialist, and anti-imperialism is one characteristic of the global left, so on that basis one could describe them as part of the global left. My second point was then critical: as with any group on the left, one has to decide whether one is for that group or against that group, and one needs to critically evaluate their stand. I do not accept or endorse all groups on the global left"

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/judit...m-that-is-not-associated-with-state-violence/

The self-proclaimed "anti-imperialist" left has a strange relationship with Islamist groups.
They are pro-Hamas and Hezbollah. In Syria they hail Assad as the bulwark against the al-Qaeda hordes and accuse their critics of being Jihadis or apologists. The Kurdish YPG itself is imperialist and a threat to Assad.

It all boils to down proximity to the US and nothing else, and they admit it too. They offer "critical support"... without the criticism, and denoucing as CIA lackeys those who criticise their chosen despots (even when there's no call for regime change.)
 
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Can't let Eboue have all the fun, and this one is all new and shiny as well:

 
I'll look it up but I've always found tyt a bit humorless

Basically, the back story is that Rubin has been dropping snide criticisms of Cenk and TYT for over a year during his interviews with the likes of Rogan, Harris, and last week at Oxford Union. Last night Cenk and Kasparian had a bit of revenge.

 
When this is all over there will be another Obama and another Axelrod to ensure none of these people get punished in any meaningful way
Well, yes, and we've already long since passed the tipping point for drastic climate change. It's all fecked.
 
But joe Rogan is a tool

You didn't miss anything. About 20 secs of it is Joe Rogan and Dave Rubin. Most of it Dave Rubin being a bit slow. The other 14 mins is a dude laughing and calling Dave Rubin a dumbass. Not sure why i'm telling you this ... your overwhelming curiosity and enthusiasm for the clip compelled me to I guess.
 
How does a douchey, basic, charmless motherfecker like that end up as some sort of spokesman for a section of society? Christ. He sounds like a badly acted Simpson character.
Because he represents the same kind of douchey, basic, charmless motherfeckers who cried 'SJW marxist feminist muslim traitor' at anything and everything.

Bit like how the Japanese hire unfit, ugly men in their porn, I suppose.
 
That's genuinely the first time i've heard Ben Shapiro speak. I've had absolutely no interest in watching any of his videos before. Dude sounds like choked down a few too many helium balloons.
 

He's actually not saying that, Steven Crowder does and the video cuts off at the start of Peterson's answer. Which then is typical Peterson bollocks, but not really what the tweet says.

Can be seen in the video link from 37:25.