Pep Guardiola agrees 1 year contract extension | Includes additional 1 year option

If there were multiple reports about him signing a new contract leading up to it, then probably yeah.

Not sure Pellegrini himself were really that surprised that he was pushed out the door when Guardiola became available considering keeping the seat warm for him was a huge reason for his hiring in the first place

I will be surprised if Guardiola signs an extension and then leaves anyway if that is what you are asking?
On your first point - I don't understand the link? Why would there have to be multiple reports about Pellegrini signing a 2 year extension leading up to him literally signing a 2 year extension in order for you to be confident he wouldn't step aside 6 months later?

On your last point - yes, that's what I'm asking. It makes sense for the board and the manager to agree a contract extension even when one (or both) of the two parties knows that the manager is leaving in a few months time, as the extension keeps the players motivated. The fact that you went from title favourites in Jan 2016 to scraping 4th on GD in May 2016 shows the impact of announcing a new manager mid-season. Imagine how low in the table you would have finished had you announced Pellegrini was leaving in September 2015 instead.
 
He'll still leave

I'm sure this would've been his last season without the charges. I'm sure he's only staying because he doesn't want to be seen in a bad light. I hope they get expelled from the PL so it basically doesn't matter to us what happens with Pep.
 
I'm sure this would've been his last season without the charges. I'm sure he's only staying because he doesn't want to be seen in a bad light. I hope they get expelled from the PL so it basically doesn't matter to us what happens with Pep.
I still think he will walk away when they're found guilty.
 
This probably means nothing. Like others have said they were probably looking for Amorim and we've nabbed him, so they need Pep for a little longer. In terms of their clearly illegal activity; for all we know there's a clause where he can leave if the club are relegated.
 
In completely unrelated news, the ownership of a massive plot of land in Abu Dhabi and 29 people was transferred to a recently registered company in the Cayman Islands, El Baldo Catalano.
 
He said he’s more likely to stay if they get relegated.

I heard from someone close to City that there have been rumours within that he’ll be a billionaire by the end of his tenure there, and I absolutely believe it.
 
On your first point - I don't understand the link? Why would there have to be multiple reports about Pellegrini signing a 2 year extension leading up to him literally signing a 2 year extension in order for you to be confident he wouldn't step aside 6 months later?

On your last point - yes, that's what I'm asking. It makes sense for the board and the manager to agree a contract extension even when one (or both) of the two parties knows that the manager is leaving in a few months time, as the extension keeps the players motivated. The fact that you went from title favourites in Jan 2016 to scraping 4th on GD in May 2016 shows the impact of announcing a new manager mid-season. Imagine how low in the table you would have finished had you announced Pellegrini was leaving in September 2015 instead.
I said that it is not surprising that Pep is signing an extension due to it being reported multiple times that it is likely, on a thread about Pep signing an extension.
You were the one talking about Pellegrini.

Even if he does end up leaving at the end of the season it doesn't change the fact that his extension isn't a surprising development at all, despite the consensus on here is that he is definitely done. Which is what I commented on.

Pellegrini signing an extension, and then announcing he is leaving was a surprise. Guardiola signing an extension and then later hypothetically announcing his departure would also be surprising.
The news today weren't. Not sure what we are discussing here. The fact that he may end up leaving anyway? Yeah, sure. But as of now, the only concrete news is that he is extending for one more year after reports that he himself wants one more season. Speculations, or how the Pellegrini situations were handled almost ten years ago under completely different circumstances (notably Guardiola suddenly becoming available, Pellegrini would most likely have continued if he didn't) isn't really relevant to what I said
 
Indicates nothing about the charges for me they’re in a bad spot and didn’t want this issue with Pep’s contract effecting them on the field. They’ll be hoping this gives the club a boost they have some tough games coming up and are out of form.

Another 18 months of Pep won’t hurt us in the long term and rather City win a title than Liverpool
 
I said that it is not surprising that Pep is signing an extension due to it being reported multiple times that it is likely, on a thread about Pep signing an extension.
You were the one talking about Pellegrini.

Even if he does end up leaving at the end of the season it doesn't change the fact that his extension isn't a surprising development at all, despite the consensus on here is that he is definitely done. Which is what I commented on.

Pellegrini signing an extension, and then announcing he is leaving was a surprise. Guardiola signing an extension and then later hypothetically announcing his departure would also be surprising.
The news today weren't. Not sure what we are discussing here. The fact that he may end up leaving anyway? Yeah, sure. But as of now, the only concrete news is that he is extending for one more year after reports that he himself wants one more season. Speculations, or how the Pellegrini situations were handled almost ten years ago under completely different circumstances (notably Guardiola suddenly becoming available, Pellegrini would most likely have continued if he didn't) isn't really relevant to what I said
I'm not sure why you're playing dumb all of a sudden. Yes, I was the one who brought up Pellegrini in response to your initial post. Let me remind you of it here:
Not a surprise at all, baffling that so many on here had it as a foregone conclusion that this was his last season
Since you are baffled as to why so many people on the caf believe this will be Pep's final season at City... and if you start becoming baffled as to why so many people still believe this will be the case despite the announcement of him signing a contract extension, let me spell this out for you: Abu Dhabi have prior behaviour for this. See Pellegrini in 2015.
 
This all but confirms they were betting the house on getting Amorim and we nipped in instead. Have it you Bertie cnuts :lol:
What are you talking about? :lol:
Pep rightly or wrongly would be getting a lifetime contract if he wanted one.

I'm sure Amorim was high on the list for his replacement when he eventually leaves, considering he is a very talented manager and Viana is coming in the summer. But what you posted is almost as weird of a take as saying Ferguson left because the United board wanted Moyes.
 
Only staying because he has nowhere else to go.

Or because City have him all tied up in their shenanigans.

Delighted for him.
 
I'm not sure why you're playing dumb all of a sudden. Yes, I was the one who brought up Pellegrini in response to your initial post. Let me remind you of it here:

Since you are baffled as to why so many people on the caf believe this will be Pep's final season at City... and if you start becoming baffled as to why so many people still believe this will be the case despite the announcement of him signing a new 2 year contract, let me spell this out for you: Abu Dhabi have prior behaviour for this. See Pellegrini in 2015.
And again, if you don't see how that is two vastly different situations I can't help you. The reports during Pellegrini's time were that the board were working towards Guardiola in the future, because he was the most attractive manager on the market. Pellegrini didn't go back on his extension and then replaced by Guardiola. Pellegrini signed an extension he had intentions to fulfill and then were told Guardiola were coming next summer. Pellegrini has said multiple times that he was told that the plan was always to bring in Guardiola when he agreed to it. Any extension Pellegrini signed both him and the club fully intended to fulfill unless Guardiola became available or results worsened.

The current sitation; Guardiola won his 4th Premier League trophy in a row last season, is by all accounts both logically and reportedly wanted to extend his stay by the board and has now also done it after multiple reports that he himself wants to stay on another season with a option for a further one. Unless there suddenly becomes reports that the City board is going all out for another attractive manager in the market (which would be who at this point in time?) and is ready to ditch Guardiola for him, I just struggle to see what your point is? Especially considering that all I initially said was that it literally isn't surprsing that someone that has been reported to sign an extension is signing an extension.
 
Man City and Pep are genuinely destroying the Premier League. Too many people I know are just losing interest altogether.
 
And again, if you don't see how that is two vastly different situations I can't help you. The reports during Pellegrini's time were that the board were working towards Guardiola in the future, because he was the most attractive manager on the market. Pellegrini didn't go back on his extension and then replaced by Guardiola. Pellegrini signed an extension he had intentions to fulfill and then were told Guardiola were coming next summer. Pellegrini has said multiple times that he was told that the plan was always to bring in Guardiola when he agreed to it. Any extension Pellegrini signed both him and the club fully intended to fulfill unless Guardiola became available or results worsened.

The current sitation; Guardiola won his 4th Premier League trophy in a row last season, is by all accounts both logically and reportedly wanted to extend his stay by the board and has now also done it after multiple reports that he himself wants to stay on another season with a option for a further one. Unless there suddenly becomes reports that the City board is going all out for another attractive manager in the market (which would be who at this point in time?) and is ready to ditch Guardiola for him, I just struggle to see what your point is? Especially considering that all I initially said was that it literally isn't surprsing that someone that has been reported to sign an extension is signing an extension.
Your owners are forward planners. In 2015, they had a plan to replace the existing manager in 2016 when his contract was due to expire. This plan involved giving the existing manager a suspiciously short contract extension to ensure the players would stay motivated. The manager then publicly announced he was leaving a few months later.

His successor has now been given a suspiciously short extension less than 12 months before his contract was due to expire.

Not to mention the fact that this also has occurred after he hinted that he sees himself as more likely to leave City in 2025 than to stay, which has also coincided with the court case that will (at best) leave you with a points deduction and (at worst) relegate you.

Are you beginning to follow what my point is?
 
You mean be rightfully proven innocent? Yes.

A bit like the Trumpies reckoning 2020
is a proven fix because of 2024.

city will wriggle free and their fans will claim some demented victory against 'the cartel'. Then get angrier when nobody cares about their ill-gotten gains.
 
If they don't, it'll be 'the cartel' keeping them back or some other nonsense.
This is the most hilarious aspect of all of this - 'the cartel' not only does not exist, but it wasn't even a saying until City fans made it up out of thin air to try and play the victim card.
 
Your owners are forward planners. In 2015, they had a plan to replace the existing manager in 2016 when his contract was due to expire. This plan involved giving the existing manager a suspiciously short contract extension to ensure the players would stay motivated. The manager then publicly announced he was leaving a few months later.

His successor has now been given a suspiciously short extension less than 12 months before his contract was due to expire.

Not to mention the fact that this also has occurred after he hinted that he sees himself as more likely to leave City in 2025 than to stay, which has also coincided with the court case that will (at best) leave you with a points deduction and (at worst) relegate you.

Are you beginning to follow what my point is?
I understand your point completely fine, I'm just telling why you it is a bad one. You completely ignoring that because you want him to leave is fine by me, but that doesn't mean there is any correlation to the Pellegrini situation what so ever.

Also your last paragraph is as speculative as the rest of your argument. There is absolutely no concrete evidence that we will "at best be deducted points, at worst relegated" no matter how much you want that to be the case.

The only thing concrete at the moment is that he has in all likelihood signed an extension for another year it an option for a further season after that, after several credible reports that he himself wants to stay for at least another season. Now, you can choose to believe that this means that he is done anyway because you thought that were the case from unfounded speculation before this news broke. But in the real world that is absurd, especially when you still don't understand how irrelevant your Pellegrini point is.
 
I understand your point completely fine, I'm just telling why you it is a bad one. You completely ignoring that because you want him to leave is fine by me, but that doesn't mean there is any correlation to the Pellegrini situation what so ever.

Also your last paragraph is as speculative as the rest of your argument. There is absolutely no concrete evidence that we will "at best be deducted points, at worst relegated" no matter how much you want that to be the case.

The only thing concrete at the moment is that he has in all likelihood signed an extension for another year it an option for a further season after that, after several credible reports that he himself wants to stay for at least another season. Now, you can choose to believe that this means that he is done anyway because you thought that were the case from unfounded speculation before this news broke. But in the real world that is absurd, especially when you still don't understand how irrelevant your Pellegrini point is.
Bloody unfounded speculation. I wonder where that came from...

Also, on your middle paragraph, if you genuinely believe that you will get off scott free on your 35 charges of 'refusing to cooperate' (as if new evidence will come to light that you did in fact cooperate) then I've got some magic beans to sell you.
 
Ffs I was certain this football terrorist was leaving the English game.

Oh well here’s to two more years of snoozeball.
 
Poster on page 1 not understanding the whole athletic - ornstein thing!

This deal isn't a surprise, nothing to do with the charges. 6 year contract maybe, 1 year means f all.
 
It's not surprising. Both Guardiola and Bergenstein leaving at the same time would have been disastrous for them. This will allow Viana to settle in.
 
Bloody unfounded speculation. I wonder where that came from...

Also, on your middle paragraph, if you genuinely believe that you will get off scott free on your 35 charges of 'refusing to cooperate' (as if new evidence will come to light that you did in fact cooperate) then I've got some magic beans to sell you.

What I genuinly believe has nothing to do with it. The fact is you, I or anyone else knows absolutely nothing about what the outcome or the punishment will be. So even using that as part of your argument makes it redundant.

Yeah he did say that what the tweet says yeah. People then assuming this is definitely his last season because he said this is on them. Even orginally he said that there will be talks during the season. When the reports in the media then shifts to him being likely to sign an extension because both parties wants another season, it is pretty unfounded and speculative to believe otherwise. He has said multiple times he will honor any contract he signs, so I'm not sure where that leaves your argument if we are gonna believe everything he says to the press.

In summary, the news this thread is about has been known as a likely outcome for some time now. Therefore it doesn't surprise me, and the foregone conclusion that this is his last season a lot of people on here has stuck with has been flawed. That is all I said. Now, you can argue all you want that this extension means that he will leave anyway because that is what you originally thought he would anyway, but that doesn't make it anymore realistic. Nor does drawing parallels to a completely different situation with Pellegrini almost ten years ago. You can either agree with this and still personally think he leaves based on your own speculation, or disagree and still think he will leave based on your own speculation. But the fact of the matter is that he is currently extending after reports that he has chosen to stay another year. Therefore all logic in the world dictates that he stays another year
 
Lets say that they managed to convince him that the punishment wont be so severe. Well from his side he can just quit or ask to step down if the reality is different. Meanwhile he gets to enjoy lots of money and the best squad in PL. Baldy is a smart one. In fact he was already playing the "I believe them, I believe the people, but if they lied then its over" early when the ffp rumours started coming out. Basically he can keep winning things and blame the club if they get punished. Baldy is living the good life.
 
What I genuinly believe has nothing to do with it. The fact is you, I or anyone else knows Now, you can argue all you want that this extension means that he will leave anyway because that is what you originally thought he would anyway, but that doesn't make it anymore realistic. Nor does drawing parallels to a completely different situation with Pellegrini almost ten years ago. You can either agree with this and still personally think he leaves based on your own speculation, or disagree and still think he will leave based on your own speculation. But the fact of the matter is that he is currently extending after reports that he has chosen to stay another year. Therefore all logic in the world dictates that he stays another year
It's beginning to become clear that you're burying your head in the sand with regards to both a) City's 115 charges and b) Guardiola's suspiciously short contract extension. I will avoid further addressing the former as there's a separate thread to discuss that. On the latter - for you to dismiss what happened after Pellegrini signed a short-term contract extension as irrelevant, because it was a 'completely different situation' and 'almost 10 years ago', ignores the fact that Pellegrini's successor was... Guardiola, and this occurred under... the same ownership. We're not comparing different eras here. Yes, Pellegrini signed a short-term extension 'almost 10 years ago', but 10 years ago was neither a) several managerial appointments ago or b) under a different ownership. When predicting Abu Dhabi's succession plan for City's next head coach, we only have the context of your most recent managerial succession plan to go off (unless you'd like to include Mancini).
 
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Disappointing in all honestly, I was hoping he'd feck off sooner rather than later.

I don't think you can read into this with regard to the charges. No doubt he'll have some exit clause or just straight up resign if they do get relegated or some other tough punishment.
 
It's beginning to become clear that you're burying your head in the sand with regards to both a) City's 115 charges and b) Guardiola's suspiciously short contract extension. I will avoid further addressing the former as there's a separate thread to discuss that. On the latter - for you to dismiss what happened after Pellegrini signed a short-term contract extension as irrelevant, because it was a 'completely different situation' and 'almost 10 years ago', ignores the fact that Pellegrini's successor was... Guardiola, and this occurred under... the same ownership. We're not comparing different eras here. You're trying to deflect by saying the Pellegrini situation was 'almost 10 years ago' as if it was several managerial appointments ago under a different ownership, when in reality we only have the context of the previous appointment to go off (unless you'd like to include Mancini) when predicting Abu Dhabi's succession plan.
Not burying my head in the sand at all. Unless you dispute my claim that you don't know anything about what the outcome will be, and using what you think is a likely outcome in a argument is at best speculative, I just don't see why I have to explain that it doesn't give any weight to your argument.

His successor was Guardiola yes, and that strenghtens my point way more than what you think it does to yours. It is well documented that the club wanted Guardiola above everyone. It was integral to the future planning of the direction of the club and something they had decided on. Pellegrini got hired in june 2013 because Pep chose Bayern Munich as his next destination. Pellegrini were made well aware that he were hired under these conditions. If Pep somehow had been available in October 2013, Pellegrini would have been done then and there. Pellegrini's situation at the club was dictated by Pep Guardiola.

When you say that the club were forward planning and that they were giving Pellegrini suspiciously short extensions because they knew he were leaving and they knew they were replacing him with Guardiola you seem to insinuate that either Pellegrini had decided to leave or the club had decided he were done in 2016 anyway. When the fact of the matter is as I already told you, the fact that they got Guardiola specifically was the reason for that managerial change to begin with! The "suspiciously short " contract extension Pellegrini got to "keep players motivated" would most likely have been honored by both parties for as long as they failed to achieve their target of hiring Guardiola, or if his result worsened to the point that is position were untenable. And how would you explain the fact that they gave him "suspiciously short" contract extensions but then decided to immediately announce that they had agreed terms with Guardiola mid-season anyway? Wouldn't that have negated the point of keeping players motivated if that was the original goal of the extension?

The way things were handled in the Pellegrini situation had nothing to do with Pellegrini, and everything to do with Guardiola. Now 10 years after, the situation has still everything to do with Guardiola. The club still wants him to stay, and by all accounts the noises around him and the club seem to suggest that he wants to stay for at least another year as well. Hence he signs a contract for another year, with a option for another which is basically the same short type of extension he signed last time he renewed his contract. Do you not see the differences here? Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and ignore the fact that he most likely wants to stay because that is what is reported now and say that giving him an extension is the smart thing to do whether he decides to honor it or not, do you not see how far-fetched it is to link how this situation is handled, with how they handled Pellegrini?

We are like any other well-run club on the sporting side hopefully always planning ahead. I am sure there is a rolling list of options the board considers at all times if something happens at the manager position. If Guardiola decides to leave, he decides to leave. That is why he signs suspiciously short contracts, and not long ones that is way riskier for both parties to honor.
 
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The only way I can see Pep leaving City is if they get punished for the 115 charges. Where could Pep possibly go? I know every club would take him, but realistically who would have the financial muscle to be able to assemble a squad for Pep?

Italian clubs simply dont have the money, he's managed Bayern so thats it for the bundesliga, EPL is out of question, Barca are broke so I doubt they can afford him. That leaves PSG? I dont see anyone.
 
The only way I can see Pep leaving City is if they get punished for the 115 charges. Where could Pep possibly go? I know every club would take him, but realistically who would have the financial muscle to be able to assemble a squad for Pep?

Italian clubs simply dont have the money, he's managed Bayern so thats it for the bundesliga, EPL is out of question, Barca are broke so I doubt they can afford him. That leaves PSG? I dont see anyone.
Brazil, starting after the 2026 World Cup has been rumoured for ages now. I actually think the England job did interest him but the timing were a bit off, with him already deciding to do at least this season and Tuchel ready to come in sooner.

But as of now, everything points towards a national team job when he is done. Nut 5 years ago before it became clear that he were going to have an abnormal long tenure at City compared to his earlier career Juventus seemed nailed on. So it can change quickly. But I think a club in Italy intrigues him
 
The way things were handled in the Pellegrini situation had nothing to do with Pellegrini, and everything to do with Guardiola. Now 10 years after, the situation has still everything to do with Guardiola. The club still wants him to stay, and by all accounts the noises around him and the club seem to suggest that he wants to stay for at least another year as well. Hence he signs a contract for another year, with a option for another which is basically the same short type of extension he signed last time he renewed his contract. Do you not see the differences here? Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and ignore the fact that he most likely wants to stay because that is what is reported now and say that giving him an extension is the smart thing to do whether he decides to honor it or not, do you not see how far-fetched it is to link how this situation is handled, with how they handled Pellegrini?
So far-fetched from me. My bad. Admittedly I assumed that this short-term contract extension was a marriage of convenience for both parties until a verdict in court was reached on the most serious allegations of cheating in British football history. Nevertheless, you have now convinced me it is purely coincidental that your current manager has signed a short-term contract just like your previous manager did at a time your owners could sense that changes were afoot.

As you said - let's instead focus on City's current manager rather than his predecessor. Guardiola evidently has the enthusiasm to continue managing City, going into the next 2 seasons, regardless of the impending court case verdict, and he has never hinted at anything otherwise. Had he gotten any inclination that his employers were breaking the rules, I'm sure he would have resigned instantly, given his previously squeaky-clean record when it comes to alleged cheating in football.

Now, thanks to your clarification, I cannot see how this short-term contract extension could in any way benefit both parties until a verdict is reached in court. The dust will settle after the club is inevitably cleared of all 115 charges and Guardiola will hand over the torch to his successor a few weeks before his contract is due to expire. Any suggestion that a change in management could occur 12-18 months prior to Guardiola's contractual end date is nonsensical, illogical and certainly not based off the club's previous succession planning.