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Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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Sanchez and Fabregas were two of the best players in the league last season. Their transition from Spain to England was flawless, and completely quashed the idea that players need a "settling in time" which is a shocking excuse.
Both players moved to London though & that place is pure kickass for anyone to live in with a shitload of dosh & looking for a new experience..
Feck me what more does Sanchez have to prove
Let alone Fabregas
One season. Let's see how it looks after a couple of seasons at least. Fabregas was pretty mediocre in a good few games that I bothered to watch last season.
Anyone using Sneidjer as an example should feck right off. The guy had one good season at Inter, in what was a particularly shit league. He's been a nothing player ever since and was not particularly great at Madrid.
Really? We've only just signed somebody with pace, and that's Memphis. Nobody else in our attack is quick. For wingers, we have Young and Mata starting (while Memphis is a 10), and for back up to them we have... Januzaj/pereira? Pedro would be a huge upgrade without a doubt on all of them in terms of the pace and quality he would bring on the wing.
Personally I think he'll surprise a lot of people and he'll play really well here. Obviously, he's not as good as Bale is at his best, or Reus for example, but then neither of them will be 22m, and we can't get any of them either. But at the same time, I think he'll suit us like a glove and hopefully get back to his best when he was a truly top player like he was under Pep.
It's just sad.
I said it was rare. Not impossible. Most players disappear once they leave Madrid or Barca.
Fake. Where's John Terry?
One season where he won the treble with that team from a shit league, helped get Holland to the World Cup final and was 4th best player in the world.
I think a lot of fans here are clinging onto the hope we're going to get a WC player in. Nobody of that ilk is available, and if they were; we wouldn't be guaranteed them - we would have to outbid our rivals.
I, personally, am excited about signing a player for £22m who's still in his peak (arguably) and who has won everything as an integral part of one of the greatest club and national sides in history. We need pace to threaten teams. Pedro has bags of this, and is not that bad in front of goal either - not to mention if we do sign him we will have two wingers whose major qualities include the ability to defend. If we dont get Pedro, i'd be very concerned about our ability to break down defensive opponents.
Mata was also at Madrid for a bit
Higuain doing well at Napoli. Morata at Juve as well
Higuain doing well at Napoli. Morata at Juve as well
Cheers Messi
I do get this.. But surely living in Hale, Alderley Edge or elsewhere in the Cheshire countryside allows them the chance to live a relatively incognito life away from the hustle and bustle of LDN. Surely not every player craves London?
And anyway, Manchester is a fantastic city with plenty of chances for players to gain these experiences.
Who though? Most players leave after their best or if they just weren't that good to begin with. Di Maria and Ozil are basically the only two to have gotten significantly worse then what they showed at Madrid, and they're both still top class players when they're happy and on form. Di Maria just wasn't happy so didn't do well, but he'll probably be great for PSG again. Everyone else has pretty successful careers wherever else they go.
PedrON?
I don't think he's any better than Young was last season. Or, he's maybe slightly better, but let's see how he fits into the team and league. He definitely adds something to the right wing position which Mata doesn't have, but I do actually think Mata has been performing well at the right wing.
But there is always the question of whether he will adapt well or not. If he adapts perfectly, he may be our best winger this season.
PedrDefinitelyOn.
not sure I missed some miraculous meaning here?
Looks likely! He has asked to leave hence why he was left out of the starting eleven apparantly.
But i'll be nervous until it's done just incase Bayern or Citeh try to hijack the move.
Bollox to that. We need this feller instead..
Ha!
not sure I missed some miraculous meaning here?
Ashley Cole really stands out.If we sign Pedro, does that it is BaleOFF?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ash...hotoshop-thread-irvine-welsh-approved.394073/not sure I missed some miraculous meaning here?
My issue with Pedro is that he's the kind of player who always gives 110% and is good at pretty much everything, but he doesn't have the same penetration that Neymar, Suarez, Messi, Hazard, Sanchez or Agüero have. Pedro is the perfect player to support the kinds of players mentioned.
Our biggest issue last season was that we struggled to break down teams who parked the bus. I don't really see Pedro sorting out this issue.
I don't think Bale is coming here at any cost.If we sign Pedro, does that it is BaleOFF?
I'm not sure desperately wanting to start games is the wrong reason to be here.
I don't know about that, the season before last he scored 15 goals and 10 assists in La Liga. That's more of each than anyone in our side got in the league last year. If he can regain anything close to that form he'll add some penetration to our attack for sure.
Agreed. This is usually one of the only reasons why a player tends to want to leave either RM or Barca.
I think there's merit to this view. The hope is that Pedro's off the ball movement will create penetration for himself and others, but I wonder if Van Gaal's system is too rigid for that. Also that Memphis joins that list with complimentary attackers used to producing while being second or third fiddle in Rooney and Pedro.
Is there a winger who would provide that sort of penetration? Felipe Anderson has the potential but is a much bigger risk.
The other reason not to sign Pedro is his age but if we believe in Januzaj (and believe RW is his logical position, which I do considering the lack of true 10s in the game, the dominance of inverted wingers and Januzaj bulking up) then it makes sense to get a reliable performer on the right that LVG will not hate to play opposite Memphis for the 2-3 seasons Van Gaal will likely be here, then hand the position over to Januzaj.
Not to get all Stalin with the 5-year plans but 2 years of Pedro then 3 years of Januzaj looks likely to provide us with better production than anywhere but LW (Memphis), LB (Shaw), RB (Darmian), DM (Schneiderlin) and RCB (Smalling) to me right now. I love Herrera, but the manager doesn't, and with De Gea leaving, the other positions all look a bit of a long term mess at the moment. Mata's not old, but he certainly ain't getting any quicker.
There's no winger better than Pedro we can get right now and Januzaj, for me, has what's needed to be good enough in a couple seasons with some loan time and learning form/competing with Pedro.
And Colin! @Damien
I'm still unsure how we didn't get back Sneijder or Robben the summer we sold Ronaldo. Robben had injury issues, obviously but Sneijder behind Rooney would have done very well for a few seasons.
To add to that Higuain, Yaya Toure, Motta, Huntelaar, Juanfran, Reina, Riquelme, Garcia.
Attack the space alright.Bollox to that. We need this feller instead..
Fabregas was far better at Chelsea than at any time ever at Barcelona. Yes he's only done it one year at Chelsea but it's clear that you can buy someone established from Barcelona or Madrid and they settle and help you win the fecking league, which is what we are trying to do
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He gave an interview after the match..
I just put all the tweets together. There is a video doing the rounds though..
I just put all the tweets together. There is a video doing the rounds though..
Good post. But I think he will help us to break down these teams. We need to be able to get in behind defensive teams (that park the bus). This either includes passing it around midfield in a sidewards fashion in order to try and pull players out of position and spot a gap to play somebody into. This is the tactic we currently employ, but it's not working because we don't have enough players with pace who can make these runs. If the team is disciplined (Chelsea) they create very few gaps for this to work. Alternatively, we can play diagonal hoofball to a big target man like Fellaini which completely cuts out the posession play. This occasionally works but not always.
Finally, you can play the ball down the wings and then cross to the central attackers. We currently do this from the left with Young but not from the right (Mata can't often beat his man on a sprint). Pedro will help with the first tactic and the latter IMO. He will offer another pacey option down the right so that teams wont be able to afford to simply defend out left flank where the attacks are coming from. Pedro's speed will create gaps and drag players out of position. He can cross too.
The only thing we're missing then is a striker with exceptional ability in the air.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's Fellaini.
It's never been on.If we sign Pedro, does that it is BaleOFF?
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