That is why he is perfect, because he has been brought up in a philosophy very similar to Van Gaal's. Pedro's best years were under Pep. Pep's system and methods were influenced by Van Gaal.
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That is why he is perfect, because he has been brought up in a philosophy very similar to Van Gaal's. Pedro's best years were under Pep. Pep's system and methods were influenced by Van Gaal.
Always looked good when I've seen him play. Not sure about the negative vibes towards him on here. May not be as good as ADM but we never really saw him in a United shirt, and never will it seems. His record at Barca is first class and I'd say LVG has a pretty good eye for players.
If ADM goes I think this guy would be great.
If ADM goes I think this guy would be great.
You would still fancy him to score 10+ goals and create chances with the quality he has. When you talk about regressing, he should be in his prime. He still has his pace, he just needs a new challenge.
Pedro was part of the best team that I have ever seen play United, in the 2011 European Cup final. Need I remind any of you he left our defence for dead for the first goal of that game.
How long was Pedro on the pitch before setting up Neymar against Juve? Anyone who isn't happy with the chance to sign Pedro needs checking.
How long was Pedro on the pitch before setting up Neymar against Juve? Anyone who isn't happy with the chance to sign Pedro needs checking.
It is worth noting that his decline coincided with Pep leaving. Pedro is vaunted as being a first class tactical player (probably why Mou wanted him too) and I would hope that Van Gaal's system and methods would suit him down to the ground, after all they are where Pep derived a lot of his ideas from.
He's more than talented enough to make it at united as a squad player. That's why we have Depay as first choice.
He's not gonna be better than any of them if he doesn't get his chance. Anyways, Depay is likely to be first choice left forward, so Lingard doesn't have to be better than Pedro. So instead of being on barca's bench, you guys want pedro to be on ours instead? What's the need?
Who is on the right? And Depay may be used centrally as he is currently
Mata. We're likely to shift to a 4-3-3 soon, so I expect Depay will be playing left forward.
So in other words Pedro would be a big improvement, ty
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I was going to moan about this possible transfer but on second thought - he's probably the safest/best option available right now if we lose Di Maria. There are better players out there but who can we realistically get? Reus? De Bruyne? Would be great if we can sign one of those two though that's highly unlikely. And they'd cost a fortune as well.
Stay at Barcelona for the love of god
A player, who started in an attacking role for arguably the greatest club side of the last 20 years, is good enough for me.
Just sign him ffs. Sign ANYBODY!! It has been two weeks almost since last signing!! *kicks chair*
Why people don't want him I have no idea. The guy is a nuisance to defenders, versatile, creative, pacey etc.
He isn't in the top bracket of footballers but he's certainly an effective player. Good enough to play a part in Barca's golden age. He was replaced by Neymar, certainly not an insult to his talent.
It's a similar situation the Schweinsteiger deal regarding Schneiderlin. In that I'll be happy if Pedro is brought in to strengthen the squad but not if his acquisition is at the expense of Di Maria leaving or bringing in a more suitable replacement. I wouldn't be over enthusiastic about selling Di Maria for £50m and replacing him with a 28 year old Pedro for £22m.
That being said I don't see any reason why we can't accomodate him and Di Maria. Let's say we play 433 then we'll have:
LW: Memphis, Di Maria
ST: Rooney, Chicharito, Memphis (?)
RW: Pedro, Di Maria, Mata
If we play a number 10 in the side as well then there's 4 positons to share. I know I've missed out players like Young, Januzaj and Wilson but if we want to realistically challenge on all fronts then we need quality depth throughout the squad.
That being said I don't see any reason why we can't accomodate him and Di Maria. Let's say we play 433 then we'll have:
LW: Memphis, Di Maria
ST: Rooney, Chicharito, Memphis (?)
RW: Pedro, Di Maria, Mata
If we play a number 10 in the side as well then there's 4 positons to share. I know I've missed out players like Young, Januzaj and Wilson but if we want to realistically challenge on all fronts then we need quality depth throughout the squad.
Football fans. They'll always find a reason to moan.
Well he would be our best winger if we signed him. Only arguable player better than him is Di Maria who's always been mediocre on the wing.
Januzaj & Memphis seem to have the potential to at least match him, and I'd say Mata is as effective, just a different type, more assisting less direct.
I love Mata but I'm not a fan when he plays out wide, he lacks the speed needed to run at defenders for me. He should be fighting with Herrera for that attacking midfield/#10 spot in my opinion.
At 22m Pedro is a deal which is too good to be true. If we can recoup most our money from the ADM deal, bring Pedro, a striker and defender than we can seriously challenge for the EPL title and possibly the CL.
However I tend to try to see the bigger picture and honestly I have noticed a change to the better in LVG's strategy. Last season we've seen an almost arrogant LVG who totally ignored the EPL characteristics (tough defenses, dominance on the flanks and physicality) in favor of his so called philosophy. United converted to a 3-5-2 system, transfers were made which hardly any consideration the the physicality of the game and players like Fellaini were nearly shown the door. That wrong strategy costed us plenty of points especially early in the season. This year LVG seem to have changed strategy. Physical players were bought (Bastian and Schneiderlin), leaders were added (Bastian) and the flanks seem set to be strengthened by two quality wingers (Pedro and Depay) who will provide plenty of pace and are suited for a more direct type of football. A ferrari is pleasing to the eye but you won't drive it in a battlefield.
However I tend to try to see the bigger picture and honestly I have noticed a change to the better in LVG's strategy. Last season we've seen an almost arrogant LVG who totally ignored the EPL characteristics (tough defenses, dominance on the flanks and physicality) in favor of his so called philosophy. United converted to a 3-5-2 system, transfers were made which hardly any consideration the the physicality of the game and players like Fellaini were nearly shown the door. That wrong strategy costed us plenty of points especially early in the season. This year LVG seem to have changed strategy. Physical players were bought (Bastian and Schneiderlin), leaders were added (Bastian) and the flanks seem set to be strengthened by two quality wingers (Pedro and Depay) who will provide plenty of pace and are suited for a more direct type of football. A ferrari is pleasing to the eye but you won't drive it in a battlefield.
Pedro got a fair share of minutes before Neymar. He was no longer first choice last year. The years prior he got more mins on the pitch for example than Sanchez.
Yes last year his time was limited but my point was when on the pitch he was equally productive as prior seasons. And he's a substitute to Neymar, Suarez and Messi, not Walcott and Sterling...
I suspect Di Maria will leave regardless. If the right offer comes in, he is good as gone. It's sad, but he'll never play like a 40-50mil player, or maybe even 30mil, under Van Gaal's system. He hasn't even nailed down any position in the squad. I've no doubt he'd have done much better under Fergie, but alas.
Pedro might not be the very best out there, but i think he's more used to playing a similar type of football. And 22mil is an absolute steal. Seamus Coleman would probably have cost us that amount if we had gone for him.
Pedro might not be the very best out there, but i think he's more used to playing a similar type of football. And 22mil is an absolute steal. Seamus Coleman would probably have cost us that amount if we had gone for him.
I would have no issues signing Pedro. In fact I would go as far to say it was great business! If we sell ADM for 50mil and get this guy for 20mil its a no brainer for me. Hes of a similar quality to ADM. Has won everything in the game, World cup, 3 champs league (including 2 of which as part of Spanish trebles) so would add experience of big games. I also think we would be making a saving on wages. He's only kept out of the Barca side by 3 exceptional talents and the politics of new signings. Always looks good when he plays.
Pedro was influential in that Barca side and the Spain team in fact, form and injuries and new signings has caused him to be on the back burner a bit, but has still looked decent in recent matches.
I would like him, but at the expense of Di Maria I'm not so sure. I dont like the fact we've got our hands on a player who was the 3rd best player in the world have him for 1 yr and sell him at a loss. If we recouped full value then fair enough but even then I dont like that as an approach. He should be given longer, unless the reason is him pushing a transfer as he's not settled due to the robbery etc.
Would rather keep him than sign Pedro but if he is to go thats a decent replacement, very different style tho.
Surprised we havent sounded out Goetze who is linked a bit with a move away.
I would like him, but at the expense of Di Maria I'm not so sure. I dont like the fact we've got our hands on a player who was the 3rd best player in the world have him for 1 yr and sell him at a loss. If we recouped full value then fair enough but even then I dont like that as an approach. He should be given longer, unless the reason is him pushing a transfer as he's not settled due to the robbery etc.
Would rather keep him than sign Pedro but if he is to go thats a decent replacement, very different style tho.
Surprised we havent sounded out Goetze who is linked a bit with a move away.
Huh
Clearly miles better than Mata as a right winger
I'd swap him for Di Maria in a heartbeat, I think he's the perfect winger for us and our system and Van Gaal clearly wants goals from midfield, which he brings. He hasn't regressed quite as much as some believe, excellent pace and close control, excellent movement and work rate. I'm not sure what people are really looking for in a player these days?
One thing I don't understand though, is the mooted transfer fee. He signed a new contract in June, with an 150 million euro release clause still present. Why would Barcelona sell?
One thing I don't understand though, is the mooted transfer fee. He signed a new contract in June, with an 150 million euro release clause still present. Why would Barcelona sell?
I think he will suit us better than Di Maria. Besides we have Januzaj and Pereira, who may fill in Di Maria role in the team, hopefully.
Not sure about the first team but he will easily improve the squad.
I hope so but I believe it's gonna happen shortly
It has been reduced to €30m, confirmed by himself (the reduction, not the fee):
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/13/barcelona-pedro-offers-buyout-clause-chelsea
Do you think he'll stay?
We clearly need a new winger and it's not like we can get the likes of Ribery, Robben, Bale, Sanchez, Hazard, Ronaldo.
That leaves players like Draxler, Reus and Griezman. Draxler has been underwhelming for a while now, and Reus seem Real Madrid bound once he decides to leave Dortmund. I'd love it if we got Griezman, but that doesn't seem realistic either. That leaves Pedro as the best possible option, and at 20mil it is a no brainer seeing as we are losing Di Maria.
That leaves players like Draxler, Reus and Griezman. Draxler has been underwhelming for a while now, and Reus seem Real Madrid bound once he decides to leave Dortmund. I'd love it if we got Griezman, but that doesn't seem realistic either. That leaves Pedro as the best possible option, and at 20mil it is a no brainer seeing as we are losing Di Maria.
Any player we buy can't be anywhere remotely near 28 years old. This means that they're passed it/have alzheimers/might be dead/cant run at all/worthless... or something
Memphis di Maria Pedro
That would be a tasty '3' in a 4231. Get di Maria central where he belongs. Memphis and Pedro causing the opposition full backs hell. Rooney just focusing on the goals.
That would be a tasty '3' in a 4231. Get di Maria central where he belongs. Memphis and Pedro causing the opposition full backs hell. Rooney just focusing on the goals.
A LOT of pace in that.If only.
What do you do with Mata then? Will LvG finally relent and play him as the number 10? And if so play him and Herrera in midfield at the same time?
Just can't see it but
Depay------Rooney--------Pedro
---------Mata---------Herrera---
------------Schneiderlin---------
would be a bit tasty.
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