Peaches and a GOAT Draft

need this lad I think



1. Theon - 1. D. Maradona (200) 2. G. Chiellini (20) 3. L. Bonucci (15) 4. Cafu (110) 5. A. Barzagli (15) 6. G. Batistuta (85) 7. J. Mascherano (15) 8. J. Oblak (15) 9. sold 10. B. Schweinsteiger (80) 11. M. Chagas (15) 12. Bebeto (15) 13. Caniggia (15) 14. J. Velasquez (15) 15. Rivaldo (80)

2. Isotope - 1. G. Best (160) 2. R. Giggs (60) 3. M. Sammer (90) 4. G. Zambrotta (20) 5. B. Charlton (115) 6. Sold 7. R. Ayala (20) 8. D. Albertini (15) 9. C. Gentile (50) 10. S. Tacconi (15) 11. S. Pluskal (15) 12. R. Baraja (15) 13. R. Van Persie (20) 14. D. Irwin (45). 15. B. Robson (90)

4. MJJ /RedTiger - 1. G. Scirea (115) 2. Sold 3. C. Seedorf (45) 4. P. Vierchowod (50) 5. B. Lizarazu (50) 6. Z. Boniek (75) 7. D. McGrain (45) 8. L. Suarez (60) 9. K. Hamrin (80) 10. Sold 11. H. Gregg (15) 12. W. Sneijder (15) 13. P. Pogba (15) 14. W. Shaw (15) 15. C. Makelele (50) 16. P. Breitner (90)

5. harms - 1. Pelé (200) 2. D. Law (80) 3. D. Beckham (55) 4. P. Evra (20) 5. S. Effenberg (40) 6. N. Vidic (55) 7. S. Lerby (40) 8. sold 9. sold 10. R. Rensenbrink (50) 11. J. van Beveren (15) 12. G. Bale (15) 13. W. Weber (15) 14. Y. Voinov (15) 15. B. Moore (110) 16. P. Neal (20)

6. onenil - 1. J. Cruyff (180) 2. Sócrates (70) 3. R. Koeman (30) 4. M. Silva (15) 5. B. Conti (60) 6. A. Vidal (50) 7. P. Maldini (130) 8. F. Ribery (30) 9. Nelinho (15) 10. sold 11. K. Sansom (15) 12. Leão (15) 13. sold 14. Dirceu (15) 15. H. Chumpitaz (65) 16. Clodoaldo (40)

7. Tuppet - 1. A. Di Stefano (180) 2. S. Kocsis (90) 3. Z. Czibor (75) 4. B. Bremner (30) 5. T. Häßler (15) 6. D. Mackay (15) 7. Sold 8. Sold 9. Jorginho (20) 10. E. Albertosi (15) 11. B. Mcneill (15) 12. M. Bossis (50) 13. O. Bergmark (15) 14. J. Greig (15) 15. Beckenbauer (170)

13. Physiocrat - 1. R. Gullit (115) 2. P. Lahm (80) 3. P. McGrath (75) 4. U. Stielike (55) 5. W. Overath (60) 6. D. Alaba (20) 7. sold 8. R. van Nistelrooy (55) 9. L. Skoglund (15) 10. S. Matthews (80) 11. F. Toldo (30) 12. M. Carrick (15) 13. D. Stankovic (15) 14. G. Signori (15) 15. K. H. Förster (75)

15. Team Beam - 1. Romario (160) 2. F. Redondo (90) 3. W. Schulz (25) 4. M. Laudrup (100) 5. O. Ruggeri (60) 6. E. Butragueno (30) 7. A. Giresse (20) 8. J. Stam (70) 9. J. Armfield (15) 10. G. Grosics (30) 11. sold 12. J-S Park (15) 13. Gabi (15) 14. P. Crouch (15) 15. Marcelo (15)

  • Theon - 541
  • Isotope - 620
  • MJJ - 78
  • harms - 83
  • oneniltothearsenal - 576
  • Tuppet - ∞
  • Physiocrat - 193
  • Sjor/Beam - 253
 
I pick Ferenc Bene

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Physio drop Skoglund get Piet Kiezer in

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1. Theon - 1. D. Maradona (200) 2. G. Chiellini (20) 3. L. Bonucci (15) 4. Cafu (110) 5. A. Barzagli (15) 6. G. Batistuta (85) 7. J. Mascherano (15) 8. J. Oblak (15) 9. sold 10. B. Schweinsteiger (80) 11. M. Chagas (15) 12. Bebeto (15) 13. Caniggia (15) 14. J. Velasquez (15) 15. Rivaldo (80)

2. Isotope - 1. G. Best (160) 2. R. Giggs (60) 3. M. Sammer (90) 4. G. Zambrotta (20) 5. B. Charlton (115) 6. Sold 7. R. Ayala (20) 8. D. Albertini (15) 9. C. Gentile (50) 10. S. Tacconi (15) 11. S. Pluskal (15) 12. R. Baraja (15) 13. R. Van Persie (20) 14. D. Irwin (45). 15. B. Robson (90)

4. MJJ /RedTiger - 1. G. Scirea (115) 2. Sold 3. C. Seedorf (45) 4. P. Vierchowod (50) 5. B. Lizarazu (50) 6. Z. Boniek (75) 7. D. McGrain (45) 8. L. Suarez (60) 9. K. Hamrin (80) 10. Sold 11. H. Gregg (15) 12. W. Sneijder (15) 13. P. Pogba (15) 14. W. Shaw (15) 15. C. Makelele (50) 16. P. Breitner (90)

5. harms - 1. Pelé (200) 2. D. Law (80) 3. D. Beckham (55) 4. P. Evra (20) 5. S. Effenberg (40) 6. N. Vidic (55) 7. S. Lerby (40) 8. sold 9. sold 10. R. Rensenbrink (50) 11. J. van Beveren (15) 12. G. Bale (15) 13. W. Weber (15) 14. Y. Voinov (15) 15. B. Moore (110) 16. P. Neal (20)

6. onenil - 1. J. Cruyff (180) 2. Sócrates (70) 3. R. Koeman (30) 4. M. Silva (15) 5. B. Conti (60) 6. A. Vidal (50) 7. P. Maldini (130) 8. F. Ribery (30) 9. Nelinho (15) 10. sold 11. K. Sansom (15) 12. Leão (15) 13. sold 14. Dirceu (15) 15. H. Chumpitaz (65) 16. Clodoaldo (40)

7. Tuppet - 1. A. Di Stefano (180) 2. S. Kocsis (90) 3. Z. Czibor (75) 4. B. Bremner (30) 5. T. Häßler (15) 6. D. Mackay (15) 7. Sold 8. Sold 9. Jorginho (20) 10. E. Albertosi (15) 11. B. Mcneill (15) 12. M. Bossis (50) 13. O. Bergmark (15) 14. J. Greig (15) 15. Beckenbauer (170) 16. F. Bene (15)

13. Physiocrat - 1. R. Gullit (115) 2. P. Lahm (80) 3. P. McGrath (75) 4. U. Stielike (55) 5. W. Overath (60) 6. D. Alaba (20) 7. sold 8. R. van Nistelrooy (55) 9. Sold 10. S. Matthews (80) 11. F. Toldo (30) 12. M. Carrick (15) 13. D. Stankovic (15) 14. G. Signori (15) 15. K. H. Förster (75) 16. P. Keizer (40)

15. Team Beam - 1. Romario (160) 2. F. Redondo (90) 3. W. Schulz (25) 4. M. Laudrup (100) 5. O. Ruggeri (60) 6. E. Butragueno (30) 7. A. Giresse (20) 8. J. Stam (70) 9. J. Armfield (15) 10. G. Grosics (30) 11. sold 12. J-S Park (15) 13. Gabi (15) 14. P. Crouch (15) 15. Marcelo (15)

  • Theon - 541
  • Isotope - 620
  • MJJ - 78
  • harms - 83
  • oneniltothearsenal - 576
  • Tuppet - ∞
  • Physiocrat - 203
  • Sjor/Beam - 253

@Šjor Bepo @Jim Beam
 
QF Squads
1. Theon - 1. D. Maradona (200) 2. G. Chiellini (20) 3. L. Bonucci (15) 4. Cafu (110) 5. A. Barzagli (15) 6. G. Batistuta (85) 7. J. Mascherano (15) 8. J. Oblak (15) 9. sold 10. B. Schweinsteiger (80) 11. M. Chagas (15) 12. Bebeto (15) 13. Caniggia (15) 14. J. Velasquez (15) 15. Rivaldo (80)

2. Isotope - 1. G. Best (160) 2. R. Giggs (60) 3. M. Sammer (90) 4. G. Zambrotta (20) 5. B. Charlton (115) 6. Sold 7. R. Ayala (20) 8. D. Albertini (15) 9. C. Gentile (50) 10. S. Tacconi (15) 11. S. Pluskal (15) 12. R. Baraja (15) 13. R. Van Persie (20) 14. D. Irwin (45). 15. B. Robson (90)

4. MJJ /RedTiger - 1. G. Scirea (115) 2. Sold 3. C. Seedorf (45) 4. P. Vierchowod (50) 5. B. Lizarazu (50) 6. Z. Boniek (75) 7. D. McGrain (45) 8. L. Suarez (60) 9. K. Hamrin (80) 10. Sold 11. H. Gregg (15) 12. W. Sneijder (15) 13. P. Pogba (15) 14. W. Shaw (15) 15. C. Makelele (50) 16. P. Breitner (90)

5. harms - 1. Pelé (200) 2. D. Law (80) 3. D. Beckham (55) 4. P. Evra (20) 5. S. Effenberg (40) 6. N. Vidic (55) 7. S. Lerby (40) 8. sold 9. sold 10. R. Rensenbrink (50) 11. J. van Beveren (15) 12. G. Bale (15) 13. W. Weber (15) 14. Y. Voinov (15) 15. B. Moore (110) 16. P. Neal (20)

6. onenil - 1. J. Cruyff (180) 2. Sócrates (70) 3. R. Koeman (30) 4. M. Silva (15) 5. B. Conti (60) 6. A. Vidal (50) 7. P. Maldini (130) 8. F. Ribery (30) 9. Nelinho (15) 10. sold 11. K. Sansom (15) 12. Leão (15) 13. sold 14. Dirceu (15) 15. H. Chumpitaz (65) 16. Clodoaldo (40)

7. Tuppet - 1. A. Di Stefano (180) 2. S. Kocsis (90) 3. Z. Czibor (75) 4. B. Bremner (30) 5. T. Häßler (15) 6. D. Mackay (15) 7. Sold 8. Sold 9. Jorginho (20) 10. E. Albertosi (15) 11. B. Mcneill (15) 12. M. Bossis (50) 13. O. Bergmark (15) 14. J. Greig (15) 15. Beckenbauer (170) 16. F. Bene (15)

13. Physiocrat - 1. R. Gullit (115) 2. P. Lahm (80) 3. P. McGrath (75) 4. U. Stielike (55) 5. W. Overath (60) 6. D. Alaba (20) 7. sold 8. R. van Nistelrooy (55) 9. Sold 10. S. Matthews (80) 11. F. Toldo (30) 12. M. Carrick (15) 13. D. Stankovic (15) 14. G. Signori (15) 15. K. H. Förster (75) 16. P. Keizer (40)

15. Team Beam - 1. Romario (160) 2. F. Redondo (90) 3. W. Schulz (25) 4. M. Laudrup (100) 5. O. Ruggeri (60) 6. sold 7. A. Giresse (20) 8. J. Stam (70) 9. J. Armfield (15) 10. G. Grosics (30) 11. sold 12. J-S Park (15) 13. Gabi (15) 14. P. Crouch (15) 15. Marcelo (15) 16. Davids (90)

  • Theon - 541
  • Isotope - 620
  • MJJ - 78
  • harms - 83
  • oneniltothearsenal - 576
  • Tuppet - ∞
  • Physiocrat - 203
  • Sjor/Beam - 275
 
Not sure what was the need to replace ADP with Rivaldo there. Much preferred the former in that setup in terms of synergy with Batigol and Maradona. Looked a really beautiful front 3, which now would probably need a lot more thought on how it would function.
 
I think my minute should keep on 610, as I passed the 2nd round.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
This is what happened with Clough and Taylor.....
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We don't have to see each other, so that's why it probably still works.

Moby said:
Not sure what was the need to replace ADP with Rivaldo there. Much preferred the former in that setup in terms of synergy with Batigol and Maradona. Looked a really beautiful front 3, which now would probably need a lot more thought on how it would function.
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Was a bit surprised when I saw it this morning. Maradona, ADP, Batistuta was probably my favourite attacking trio in this draft. Not that Rivaldo isn't a great player, but yeah, it just looked like a perfect fit before.
 
QF Draw
There were 8 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

  1. Theon
  2. MJJ/RedTiger
  3. OneNil
  4. Physiocrat
  5. Harms
  6. Team Beam
  7. Isotope
  8. Tuppet
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Timestamp: 2018-08-11 07:39:18 UTC
 
Moby said:
Not sure what was the need to replace ADP with Rivaldo there. Much preferred the former in that setup in terms of synergy with Batigol and Maradona. Looked a really beautiful front 3, which now would probably need a lot more thought on how it would function.
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Agree, I think that Del Piero worked better in that company
 
harms said:
Agree, I think that Del Piero worked better in that company
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Whilst this should be mostly kept for the game thread and ADP wouldn't have been where I would have upgraded (though I'd have to look at his budgets etc) I do think Rivaldo is an upgrade. He's a perfect fit for the second-striker role in a 3412. You lose some creativity but you get more goals and explosiveness. Losing creativity isn't a huge loss when you have Maradona.
 
Moby said:
Not sure what was the need to replace ADP with Rivaldo there. Much preferred the former in that setup in terms of synergy with Batigol and Maradona. Looked a really beautiful front 3, which now would probably need a lot more thought on how it would function.
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Agree there was nothing wrong with Del Piero as it looked like a finely balanced and cohesive front three. But Rivaldo offers the same peeling-wide characteristics, has the rare experience in the same role in a 352 - whilst ramping up the overall threat a notch. Seems like a positive tweak to me.
 
Gio said:
Agree there was nothing wrong with Del Piero as it looked like a finely balanced and cohesive front three. But Rivaldo offers the same peeling-wide characteristics, has the rare experience in the same role in a 352 - whilst ramping up the overall threat a notch. Seems like a positive tweak to me.
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Doesn’t Del Piero offer the same peeling wide characteristics? Same flank as well.
 
Gio said:
Agree there was nothing wrong with Del Piero as it looked like a finely balanced and cohesive front three. But Rivaldo offers the same peeling-wide characteristics, has the rare experience in the same role in a 352 - whilst ramping up the overall threat a notch. Seems like a positive tweak to me.
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The negative being that Rivaldo is a lot more likelier to step on Maradona's toes especially as some of his best spells came when he was playing in the hole and utilising that entire area. ADP's selflessness and adaptability is superior and provided a great blend while also being a top individual threat. Let's not forget that pre-injury ADP was up there with Luis Ronaldo in terms of the best talents Europe had. And lastly, the 90s Serie A 1-2 punch between him and Batigol was overall a really nice touch.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Doesn’t Del Piero offer the same peeling wide characteristics? Same flank as well.
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True. A lot of love for Del Boy here and agree with Moby’s appreciation of him. But I rate Rivaldo higher.

Plus as a left footed player he’s got that tendency to go in to out, whereas Del Piero would be more inclined to cut inside which could reduce Diego’s space.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
Unlike southgate, we have a plan B :D even a plan C if we count Crouchy, the greatest man alive.
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Since you have no attackers left besides Romario, I fully expect you to start with the big man and if you don‘t I will be deeply disappointed:mad:;)
 
Don Alfredo said:
Since you have no attackers left besides Romario, I fully expect you to start with the big man and if you don‘t I will be deeply disappointed:mad:;)
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goat has more important stuff to do then wasting his time on Pele.
He is having his annual hide and seek game that day and God knows thats a bigger challenge for him.
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oneniltothearsenal said:
Tues is okay, not Monday as I am busy all day
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Let's do Tuesday

Schedule

Sunday 11th -
Monday 12th -
Tuesday 13th - Onenil vs Physio, Team Beam vs harms
Wednesday 14th -
Thursday 15th -
Friday 16th -

If you have arranged a game please add to the above schedule, otherwise I may forget to remind you
 


Probably the most underrated GOAT in these drafts if you ask me, can't believe he was rated at 115m for instance although it's probably a fair reflection given how he tends to be viewed around here (not just in the drafts but also in redcafe in general probably).
 
Another great midfield performance against Carre Magique by Lerby — worked his ass off and got an assist as well (Denmark won 3:1).

 
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