Paulo Dybala

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Devil may care said:
If we are playing the budget game then we shouldn't be spending £90M on a player that doesn't address any of the issues in this team.
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Dont tell me that he does not address any of the issues of the team. And budget is a point which is very realistic. Besides If city add sanchez too the extra goals he'll get for them we need to match it with griezmann who is still a world class player and his recent form does not change that one bit.

If you need a playmaker than ozil will be free next season, instead of spanding 150 m on dybala who's is not having any epl exp and frankly speaking will not suits mourinho's style we cold get both players and use the remaining money for the wages while decide on mata /mkh's futures depending on form. Ozil as been playing superb recently too so he can always slot there if not griezmann .

SIgning dybala is too much of a risk and frankly speaking not very realistic.
 
Devil may care said:
A lot will depend on whether Jose thinks we need as much as most of us on the Caf feel we do, he may well be thinking just 2 signings in the summer, if so then Dybala would be an option.
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We need more than 2 surely, and dybala is not a united and jose type player so its a huge risk factor involved there too. Not a wise decision.
 
prtk0811 said:
Dont tell me that he does not address any of the issues of the team. And budget is a point which is very realistic. Besides If city add sanchez too the extra goals he'll get for them we need to match it with griezmann who is still a world class player and his recent form does not change that one bit.

If you need a playmaker than ozil will be free next season, instead of spanding 150 m on dybala who's is not having any epl exp and frankly speaking will not suits mourinho's style we cold get both players and use the remaining money for the wages while decide on mata /mkh's futures depending on form. Ozil as been playing superb recently too so he can always slot there if not griezmann .

SIgning dybala is too much of a risk and frankly speaking not very realistic.
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Griezmann doesn't address anything for us, he's a striker, not a creator, he doesn't offer much creativity, dribbling or invention, that is what we missed, look at how Pogba coming back in turned us from a tumescent team with runners and no creators, to a team banging in 4 again and opening Newcastle up time after time.

As for Ozil, he's a mentally fragile pussy, Dybala has that Argentine grit and that magic in his boots, Mourinho has been interested in him before and he'd be much better suited to play behind Lukaku than Griezmann is.

prtk0811 said:
We need more than 2 surely, and dybala is not a united and jose type player so its a huge risk factor involved there too. Not a wise decision.
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He's no more risky than Griezmann, you risk big and you get the big reward, as far as how many we need, what we think on the number and what Mourinho thinks are probably two different things.
 
Not sure about Dybala, I have seen 6-7 Juventus-games this season and have seldom been overly impressed - although the whole team is way different this year. Seems to drift out of games, he is not the one with the most time on the ball or the one dictating the play - but he does obviously score goals. Without having seen too much of him the last two years, the only certain things I don't like compared to Griezmann is his lack of pace and the fact that he will travel to South America a lot with Argentina. I have of course seen the Barcelona-game(s) from last season, but I don't like players that disappear from games when space is hard to find.
 
Devil may care said:
Griezmann doesn't address anything for us, he's a striker, not a creator, he doesn't offer much creativity, dribbling or invention, that is what we missed, look at how Pogba coming back in turned us from a tumescent team with runners and no creators, to a team banging in 4 again and opening Newcastle up time after time.

As for Ozil, he's a mentally fragile pussy, Dybala has that Argentine grit and that magic in his boots, Mourinho has been interested in him before and he'd be much better suited to play behind Lukaku than Griezmann is.



He's no more risky than Griezmann, you risk big and you get the big reward, as far as how many we need, what we think on the number and what Mourinho thinks are probably two different things.
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Can we bank on just lukaku rashford or martial to deliver in big champions league games yet? They are not on that level. Every team and clubs knows lukaku's weaknesses. His finishing is not of the highest quality where you just get 2-3 or even 1 chances in a game. WHere our competitors all have star forwards and good balance we lack one of the highest ilk. Griezmann is a finisher of highest order while we can also use some of the money for playmakers on free like ozil to play their salary and also get another winger or a full back or wingback and upgrade 2 roles instead of blowin our entire budget on dybala which will not suit mourinho's tactical preferences.

Griezmann tracks back too , is more versatile , A counter attacking player like jose prefers and way cheaper. Besides i dont think we will play no 10 in big crunch games in a 4231 as it is very unbalanced on the wings where lukaku will get isolated a lot and we will lack control inthe midfeild against top sides playing 433.

Also having missed mbappe madrid will buy big soon and griezmann is not going there. But dybala will always be intrested in going there.
 
prtk0811 said:
Can we bank on just lukaku rashford or martial to deliver in big champions league games yet? They are not on that level. Every team and clubs knows lukaku's weaknesses. His finishing is not of the highest quality where you just get 2-3 or even 1 chances in a game. WHere our competitors all have star forwards and good balance we lack one of the highest ilk. Griezmann is a finisher of highest order while we can also use some of the money for playmakers on free like ozil to play their salary and also get another winger or a full back or wingback and upgrade 2 roles instead of blowin our entire budget on dybala which will not suit mourinho's tactical preferences.

Griezmann tracks back too , is more versatile , A counter attacking player like jose prefers and way cheaper. Besides i dont think we will play no 10 in big crunch games in a 4231 as it is very unbalanced on the wings where lukaku will get isolated a lot and we will lack control inthe midfeild against top sides playing 433.

Also having missed mbappe madrid will buy big soon and griezmann is not going there. But dybala will always be intrested in going there.
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No, I think we have to start relying on these players to progress and develop, rather than add a player for £90M who offers nothing different to them, we struggle to create when Pogba is out, we don't need to pay another fortune on a player who doesn't offer anything creative, and playing him off the RW will just make us predictable and one track out there as well. You are wrong a bout Dybala not suiting Mourinho, he bought Mkhitaryan and Dybala can do his role only much better, however I'll say this, we don't buy Dybala, I'd still rather we avoided Griezmann and Ozil regardless.
 
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Devil may care said:
No, I think we have to start relying on these players to progress and develop, rather than add a player for £90M who offers nothing different to them, we struggle to create when Pogba is out, we don't need to pay another fortune on a player who doesn't offer anything creative, and playing him off the RW will just make us predictable and one track out there as well. You are wrong a bout Dybala not suiting Mourinho, he bought Mkhitaryan and Dybala can do his role only much better, however I'll say this, we don't buy Dybala, I'd still rather we avoided Griezmann and Ozil regardless.
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Aguero to madrid and dybala city.then ozil and mahrez to us.
 
Can see Madrid going for him. They need massive overhaul in the attack and their current results will encourage them to do so. Just hope this happens away from us i.e not selling us Bale to free space for the newcomers for example. Ed should stay as clear as possible from any player Madrid will want to offload this summer.
 
Can't see Madrid myself. They seem to shy away from the top end transfer fees these days.
 
@KingMinger22But they've tried and have pulled out every time when the price starts to rise. Theyre being outbid every single time and their targets aren't putting pressure on their clubs to negotiate solely with Madrid anymore. Its not just the financials but they shouldn't be signing Dybala when they have Isco and Asensio in their squad.
My prediction is a replacement for Benzema instead of a Dybala type.
Maybe Cavani if Neymar so decides
 
Ikon said:
Apparently Dybala misses his good friend Agent P.....!! :devil:
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/juvent...and-gives-man-utd-150m-transfer-encouragement
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  • “I’d like to battle it out with Neymar for the Ballon d’Or but he is closer to that achievement than I am"
if Manchester United bring Griezmann, Dybala, new LB and possibly RB next summer. Dybala would have a more chance of winning Ballon d'Or than Neymar. Even though Pogba, De Gea and Griezmann would be in a race for that achievement. Neymar made a mistake of joining PSG cos of their league are not popular as La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Premier League which may affect voters, if Neymar needs many voters to win a Ballon Dr, he shouldn't have joined the Ligue 1.
 
Never confident that South Americans would to England ahead of Spain. Dybala signed a new deal not long ago. We'd be looking at Neymar money to buy him surely.
 
deafepl said:
  • “I’d like to battle it out with Neymar for the Ballon d’Or but he is closer to that achievement than I am"
if Manchester United bring Griezmann, Dybala, new LB and possibly RB next summer. Dybala would have a more chance of winning Ballon d'Or than Neymar. Even though Pogba, De Gea and Griezmann would be in a race for that achievement. Neymar made a mistake of joining PSG cos of their league are not popular as La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Premier League which may affect voters, if Neymar needs many voters to win a Ballon Dr, he shouldn't have joined the Ligue 1.
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That's like £250m not including the left-back. I thought we typically spend around approx. £150m per summer, give or take for the last few years. Even with our cash reserves it seems like a large jump.
 
Alvaro Maestre said:
Dont want him, in 6 years will be 29 and will lose all his skills.
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Can you predict the future? I hope Manchester City brought Dybala from us for 300m that would mean our tag price for him 155m is a bargain and steal. He'd lose all his skills before his first debut matches for City in the league and flop. :devil::devil::lol::lol:
 
Baxter said:
Never confident that South Americans would to England ahead of Spain. Dybala signed a new deal not long ago. We'd be looking at Neymar money to buy him surely.
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Aguero and Jesus says Hi...
Seriously if he settled in here with Pogba, Lukaku and Rojo, he will be a success.
 
King.of.Red said:
Dybala & Ozil will be amazing for us. they can replace Mata & Mkhitaryan. (sorry, Mata...)
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Dybala would be amazing, not sure we can play them both though as I've always seen him play as the false 9/ 10 spot with Juve. Which would be ideal for us if he took Mkhi's spot.
 
Where does he even play? Is he a winger, number 10, striker..?
 
..........Lukaku
Martial Dybala Rashford

Yes I know Rashford doesn't play RW, but still, excuse me while I use the bathroom

Rashford could push up forward beside Lukaku like he did v Newcastle, and Dybala could drift out to the RW
 
Baxter said:
Never confident that South Americans would to England ahead of Spain. Dybala signed a new deal not long ago. We'd be looking at Neymar money to buy him surely.
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Not sure about this. Premier League are becoming more attractive to South American's best players recently in 3/4 years. Brazilian first teams have at least 5 EPL players, more than La Liga players. EPL and La Liga have same amount players in Argentina squad and Chile. EPL is attractive, not because of the money but it helps when EPL has a lot of good clubs the likes of Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool which mean they have more space slots for South American players to play with best players around them, the player may be tempted by wanting to play with a lot of good players around them. La Liga only have Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, Bundelisga has Bayern Munich and perhaps Dortmund, Ligue 1 has PSG. On other hands, the competitive of EPL is a key factor in luring South Americans players


EPL is one of hottest attractive league for best Europeans players, more than La Liga, Ligue 1 and Bundesliga with the like of Pogba, De Bruyne, Hazard, De Gea, Ozil, Morata, Lukaku, Kante, Lazarette, Sane, Martial, Svila, Courtois, Bakayokyo, Bellerin, Fabregas, Herrea, Gundogan, Mendy, Mata, Pedro, Vertonghen, Rudiger, Koscielny, Can, Lloris and so on.

However, if people care about the weather, they can all feck off. If a player doesn't have a problem with the weather, they'll choose EPL over any other league.
 
deafepl said:
EPL is one of hottest attractive league for best Europeans players. ... However, if people care about the weather, they can all feck off. If a player doesn't have a problem with the weather, they'll choose EPL over any other league
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The only, real motivation is money. Pay whatever they want and they will stay at The Lowry forever, you already know.
 
Bepi said:
The only, real motivation is money. Pay whatever they want and they will stay at The Lowry forever, you already know.
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If that's case, they'll all go to Chinese league.

For EPL, that's not true. the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG and Bayern Munich also offer high wages. EPL has a lot of teams that can also pay but you have to consider the factor that EPL can offer other league don't have is the competitive and more slots spaces for a player to join to play with many good players around, EPL has top 6 club that has many good players which is enough. Everton or West Ham could pay high wage but couldn't attract best players because they don't have many good players.
 
If he does come to the premier league I reckon it will be more likely Chelsea if Hazard is finally taken by Real Madrid. Would leave a void in the team he could fill nicely.
 
deafepl said:
If that's case, they'll all go to Chinese league.

For EPL, that's not true. the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG and Bayern Munich also offer high wages. EPL has a lot of teams that can also pay but you have to consider the factor that EPL can offer other league don't have is the competitive and more slots spaces for a player to join to play with many good players around, EPL has top 6 club that has many good players which is enough. Everton or West Ham could pay high wage but couldn't attract best players because they don't have many good players.
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I dare to disagree: players want the most money for the least effort while enjoying their life, so it is a best fit with money first. Real / Barca, Bayern, Juventus and PSG can offer good or stellar wages and trophies year by year. The EPL is fundamentally a daunting pinball league, even if continental managers & sh*tload money are making some clubs very very strong again.
 
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