Paulo Dybala

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GM K said:
There just has to be some truth to this Dybala rumours. Allegri has been benching him recently and we are not talking about meaningless games. Although goals have dried up for him recently, a player like Dybala will not stay on the bench in a World Cup year and unless the manager is willing to let him leave sometime.

Also, you have to consider the influence of Javier Ribalta. Juve's former Chief Scout turned Manchester United Chief Scout. He is still very close to Dybala and Juventus. He can certainly pull strings.

And of course, there is Agent Paul Pogba.

One thing seems sure: Dybala is leaving Juve and it looks like a straight fight between Barcelona and United. United looks like the more desperate team. I'm betting Jose will get his man.
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Why are you so sure he's leaving for certain?

Adnan said:
Gazetta reporting we've made a bid of €68m. A bit high for someone who isn't a regular right now.
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€68m seems a little low for someone of his quality...
 
Adnan said:
Not being a regular starter will have made the player unhappy and the price will drop I would assume.
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For the money quoted we can get Dybala's left boot. That's for sure.
 
Adnan said:
Neither do player valuations due to their 'left boot'
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You think there is any chance Dybala will be sold for 68 Million Euros? Player being unhappy or dropped doesn't matter as Juventus are not trying to offload him, if they were then it's a different story.
 
roonster09 said:
You think there is any chance Dybala will be sold for 68 Million Euros? Player being unhappy or dropped doesn't matter as Juventus are not trying to offload him, if they were then it's a different story.
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Marotta has stated many times that if a player wants to leave he has to make it known to the club. Allegri doesn't seem to rate Dybala as highly alot of you guys do on this forum. I can see Dybala wanting to leave if he's not a regular. I don't think the transfer fee will be as high as some of you think.
 
The real question we need to ask ourselves is why has he been dropped if he is meant to be good? Is it because of a weak mentality? We don't someone who isn't up for a fight. These are the main qualities Fergie used to look for in signings which Moyes and LVG overlooked. Plus we have had terrible luck with Argentinian players in the past so I would stay clear of Dybala if he doesn't want to be at United. He has badmouthed us in the past so I'm not sure about this.
 
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Adnan said:
Marotta has stated many times that if a player wants to leave he has to make it known to the club. Allegri doesn't seem to rate Dybala as highly alot of you guys do on this forum. I can see Dybala wanting to leave if he's not a regular. I don't think the transfer fee will be as high as some of you think.
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If Dybala leaves the club, it won't be less than 100 Million. Marotta said players can leave but not for cheaper price.

I don't know what happened between coach and player as I haven't followed the news but Dybala started season brilliantly and still top scorer in their side.
 
abdo99 said:
The real question we need to ask ourselves is why he been dropped if he is meant to be good? Is it because of a weak mentality? We don't someone who isn't up for a fight. These are the main qualities Fergie used to look for in signings which Moyes and LVG overlooked. Plus we have had terrible luck with Argentinian players in the past so I would stay clear of Dybala if he doesn't want to be at United. He has badmouthed us in the past so I'm not sure about this.
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what did he say about us ?
 
Mick1 said:
what did he say about us ?
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He was bitter about his best pal Pogba joining us last year and I remember reading something where he said ' Just look at our place in the table and United's place' to prove his point.
 
abdo99 said:
He was bitter about his best pal Pogba joining us last year and I remember reading something where he said ' Just look at our place in the table and United's place' to prove his point.
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fair enough, sounds more salty about a pal leaving the team than genuinely insulting us. Wouldn't take it into consideration if we were to try and get him
 
Would personally much rather see us pursue Dybala than Griezmann. We’ve got enough players who want to cut into the inside left channel onto their right foot without cluttering that area of the pitch up even more. Whilst my priority would be a two-footed winger who focuses on exploting the wide spaces, we have a whole in the squad for someone who is left footed and cut from the right side of the pitch.
 
Adnan said:
Gazetta reporting we've made a bid of €68m. A bit high for someone who isn't a regular right now.
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I’m praying there’s white text because if you think Dybala will go for anything less than 100m you’re crazy. To put it into context, Sigurdsson cost Everton 45m...
 
Oaencha said:
I’m praying there’s white text because if you think Dybala will go for anything less than 100m you’re crazy. To put it into context, Sigurdsson cost Everton 45m...
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Sigurdsson cost that much because Everton were willing to pay that much for a regular starter and talisman.

Why pay €100m for Dybala when Fekir could be available for a lot less and has just as much potential.
 
I think a lot here overrate Dybala - yeah he had a great half against Barcelona in the CL semis, but was quite anonymous in the final (some say he was the reason why Bonucci and the rest of the team got into a furious argument at halftime - and Bonucci has been dealt with already by Juve) and has been rather subdued this season in Serie A. Played little, been off focus, so there's some issues there at Juve, and I think they could sell for the right price.

Valuation aside, is he a good fit at Jose Mourinho's United? Coming here he'd have to adjust to a new league, a new language, a new manager - that's what concerns me more than the price, which as a fan (and not a shareholder) is an utterly abstract and theoretical concept.
 
Suedesi said:
Yeah, because deals like that usually have only one agent involved. Numpty.
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Please tell me more then, a numpty like me could never know as much as a transfer guru like yourself. How much is Raiolas cut in this? Is Raiola 100% involved, if so how long has he been involved for?
 
Adnan said:
Sigurdsson cost that much because Everton were willing to pay that much for a regular starter and talisman.

Why pay €100m for Dybala when Fekir could be available for a lot less and has just as much potential.
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For a start Fekir would still cost us 50-60m, has spent his entire career with Lyon in Ligue 1 and is still reasonably unproven. Dybala has more quality as well as more potential, has won trophies at Juventus and has plenty of later stage Champions League experience. He will also be a marketing dream for the club. There are plenty of players with potential we could purchase but we desperately need a wide forward who will make an immediate impact.
 
pascell said:
Please tell me more then, a numpty like me could never know as much as a transfer guru like yourself. How much is Raiolas cut in this? Is Raiola 100% involved, if so how long has he been involved for?
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An agent doesn't need to represent a player to get involved on a deal. He could broker a deal on behalf of the buying club, selling club, player or any combination thereof.
 
Oaencha said:
For a start Fekir would still cost us 50-60m, has spent his entire career with Lyon in Ligue 1 and is still reasonably unproven. Dybala has more quality as well as more potential, has won trophies at Juventus and has plenty of later stage Champions League experience. He will also be a marketing dream for the club. There are plenty of players with potential we could purchase but we desperately need a wide forward who will make an immediate impact.
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Fekir would've been playing for a European giant had he not suffered a serious injury. Dybala was there for the taking when he was at Palermo and we didn't move for him. Fekir if he can stay injury free will be a household name and don't be surprised if he outshines Dybala in the process.
 
abdo99 said:
He was bitter about his best pal Pogba joining us last year and I remember reading something where he said ' Just look at our place in the table and United's place' to prove his point.
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He'd be correct too with that statement.

Juve>utd was a step down for Pogba. You would argue it would be for Dybala too.

Utd are trying to get back to the glory days of champions leage and premier league contenders, Juve are already there.

He is a talented lad, however I'd question his physicality for the premiership. Looks lightweight. Also seems to look good with a lot of space and time on the ball, something our league rarely allows.

My Serie A knowledge isn't great, would be happy for more insight into his game etc
 
£120m for both him and Sandro? Jose has gotten himself double deals previously, such as at A. Madrid. Funnily enough, he was chasing a LB and a striker then too!
 
Adnan said:
Fekir would've been playing for a European giant had he not suffered a serious injury. Dybala was there for the taking when he was at Palermo and we didn't move for him. Fekir if he can stay injury free will be a household name and don't be surprised if he outshines Dybala in the process.
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You could say that about anyone with an injury; it doesn’t make Fekir any less unproven. Dybala wasn't there for the taking at Palermo as he only had potential at that stage and also actively wanted to join Juventus. Unless Dybala retires early through injury there is no way in hell Fekir will become the better player. Dybala is future Balon d’or potential and even though I quite like Fekir he’s still a long way off from his name even being mentioned.
 
Just watched fekir v Everton, he struggled against the physicality and eventually was taken off. Could have been a one-off but dybala has played against some great teams in the CL lately and put in good performances.
 
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Adnan said:
Gazetta reporting we've made a bid of €68m. A bit high for someone who isn't a regular right now.
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Oaencha said:
I’m praying there’s white text because if you think Dybala will go for anything less than 100m you’re crazy. To put it into context, Sigurdsson cost Everton 45m...
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€68m converts to £60m (which is the fee The Daily Star said United are willing to pay for Dybala). The Italian papers that have reported this story at that fee, for the most part, have laughed it off and have mentioned that there is no chance Dybala will be sold in January and most definitely not for that price.
 
If I were Juve, I wouldn't entertain any offers less than 150M euros, especially if PSG are bidding.
 
abdo99 said:
The real question we need to ask ourselves is why he been dropped if he is meant to be good? Is it because of a weak mentality? We don't someone who isn't up for a fight. These are the main qualities Fergie used to look for in signings which Moyes and LVG overlooked. Plus we have had terrible luck with Argentinian players in the past so I would stay clear of Dybala if he doesn't want to be at United. He has badmouthed us in the past so I'm not sure about this.
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Isn't Dybala their top scorer and main creator this season? I don't think there is anything wrong with his quality or performances and he has the potential to be a top top player. Everytime Allegri drops him I saw a lot of confused Juve and Serie A watchers, so it looks more like a problem with Allegri. Difficult to judge what exactly is happening in the background, but quality-wise he would be one of my favorite signings, even for big money and I am pretty sure teams like PSG or Real will take him without a doubt.
 
Oaencha said:
You could say that about anyone with an injury; it doesn’t make Fekir any less unproven. Dybala wasn't there for the taking at Palermo as he only had potential at that stage and also actively wanted to join Juventus. Unless Dybala retires early through injury there is no way in hell Fekir will become the better player. Dybala is future Balon d’or potential and even though I quite like Fekir he’s still a long way off from his name even being mentioned.
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From what I've seen of both players I prefer Fekir.
 
Oaencha said:
You could say that about anyone with an injury; it doesn’t make Fekir any less unproven. Dybala wasn't there for the taking at Palermo as he only had potential at that stage and also actively wanted to join Juventus. Unless Dybala retires early through injury there is no way in hell Fekir will become the better player. Dybala is future Balon d’or potential and even though I quite like Fekir he’s still a long way off from his name even being mentioned.
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He wanted to only join Juve due to them being the only big club showing serious interest.
 
ClosetDevil said:
Why are you so sure he's leaving for certain?



€68m seems a little low for someone of his quality...
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An accumulation of comments, reports, speculations and rumours since last summer. That's how it is in football especially for very talented players who are not club icons. And especially when they play for clubs that are not averse to selling at the right price. When Guiseppe Marotta himself says he can't stop Dybala if he wants out, then you better start believing he'll leave soon.
 
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