Paul Scholes | 2012/13 Performances

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Ole's_toe_poke said:
Anyone notice than since his come back he's started "ghosting" into the box a lot more than he did in the previous 4-5 years.

He's scored 5 PL goals in 20 games since his comeback which is a great record considering he had managed only 7 goals in the previous 4 PL seasons.
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Yeah he's definitely tried to get forward more. It could be that having actually retired for a spell he knows how much he'a going to miss it and as he's been given a chance to play for a bit longer he's really gonna try and make the most of it.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Anyone notice than since his come back he's started "ghosting" into the box a lot more than he did in the previous 4-5 years.

He's scored 5 PL goals in 20 games since his comeback which is a great record considering he had managed only 7 goals in the previous 4 PL seasons.
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Same here. I don t know why but at times he gives me the idea that he s getting better. About a week ago Nick Powell was quoted saying how much he had to run in order to mark him in training.
When fergie mentioned Giggs vs Scholes 'physical attributes', i think he was teasing Paul in order to motivate him.
 
That was a great shot of Scholes and Giggs sat together after being subbed , 2 guys who've been there and done it and are still hungry for more.Wonderful examples to our younger players.
 
If nothing else the thought of him coaching our youngsters once he hangs up his boots gives me a reason to smile once he's gone for good.
Imagine a 100 little Scholesies running around, and all it takes is one of them to make it :)
 
OGkush said:
If nothing else the thought of him coaching our youngsters once he hangs up his boots gives me a reason to smile once he's gone for good.
Imagine a 100 little Scholesies running around, and all it takes is one of them to make it :)
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This. I am hoping a lot of Scholsey rubs of on Powell who has a lot of similarites to the Ginge in his early days.
 
Neville's article on Scholes from the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...t-English-player-generation-Gary-Neville.html

Two weeks ago we watched a football match in which a £25million new signing scored a hat-trick and came off the pitch to announce that a 37-year-old substitute should be man of the match. That, of course, was Robin van Persie talking about Paul Scholes, who played his 700th match for Manchester United.

He had come on for just 30 minutes against Southampton but, in the words of Sir Alex Ferguson, he ‘brought order to the game’. That ability, for one player to be able to set the direction of a match and to control its tempo, is extraordinary. Paul Scholes is one of the very few in the world who can do it.
I must have trained and played with him thousands of times and in every one of those training sessions and matches that’s what he was doing: bringing order to the game.

The best illustration I can give of his talent is that at Manchester United there was always a possession drill in training designed to develop our passing ability, which might be three players against another three players, or six versus six, or nine versus nine. But no matter what the numbers were, the side with Paul Scholes on their team would always win by keeping the most possession.

He reached that historic landmark for United, one of only three men to have made that many appearances for the club, along with Sir Bobby Charlton and Ryan Giggs. And, despite the fact that he scored the opening goal, he will have quickly headed home, ignoring the fuss, just as he has done after the previous 699 games.
In fact, his only concern would have been whether his 700th game had brought a victory for his team.

You have to search deep into football’s history to find someone of his kind of class and honour. Players like that don’t seem to exist any more. There might be no knighthoods, no MBEs or OBEs, but every single team-mate will say he is the best they have ever played with. And every player he had played against, including Xavi and Zinedine Zidane, would say he is the best midfielder they have faced. Every fan or every club, no matter who they support, loves the way Paul Scholes plays.


He’s a private man, a family man, and those are the parts of his life he values most. He doesn’t have an agent, he doesn’t employ a PR guru and there are no celebrity mates. He’s just a kid from Middleton who grew up playing football on the streets and achieved his dreams. He is certainly the best player I’ve ever played with and the best English player of his generation.

He’s a model performer for younger footballers to look to in how he plays on the pitch. And given that he’s approaching his 38th birthday, and coming to the end of his career, I would urge anyone who loves football, particularly if they have a child who wants to learn from professionals, to go along to watch him play in the flesh this season.

Don’t watch anyone else. Just watch him for 90 minutes. Sacrifice your gate money and don’t look at the ball, unless Scholes has it. Don’t worry about watching the goals or any other player. Just look at his positioning, where he places himself, his body shape when he receives the ball, where he moves when he hasn’t got the ball and how he sets himself to play the ball. You’ll learn more about the game in 90 minutes than you will from any coaching video or training session.

There’s just one thing I’m worried about. As soon as he finds out that I’ve written this article about him, he will be texting me to say: ‘What the hell did you do that for?’ But for once I have to ignore his concerns. Today he should be in the spotlight.
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EricaNo7 said:
Can't help but wonder how good England could have been in we'd built a team around him rather than pandering to the egos of Beckham and Gerrard
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beckham was the best right winger england had at that time and he was never a reason why scholes was shifted out on the left wing by sven.

blame sven, and either one of gerrard or lampard imo.
 
EricaNo7 said:
Can't help but wonder how good England could have been in we'd built a team around him rather than pandering to the egos of Beckham and Gerrard
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There were rumours that Scholes was not happy with the England camp because of what he viewed as lack of commitment from certain members of the squad. Apparently there were too many players in "holiday mode"
 
EricaNo7 said:
Can't help but wonder how good England could have been in we'd built a team around him rather than pandering to the egos of Beckham and Gerrard
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Not that much different, Gerrard and Lampard were better than Scholes for a few years between 2003 and 2006/07, so was Beckham for that matter. People seem to forget this about Scholes, there was a period when he was thought to be past it before he suffered that weird eye/brain injury, before 06/07 he was struggling to adapt to playing a deeper role. In the advanced role Gerrard and Lampard were probably as good as he ever was at it anyway.

After 2007, sure, he'd mastered it brilliantly and he'd have been a blessing to any England side, but are you really going to build a team around a player of that age?
 
Italians did it at the Euro's. There team was geared around the playmaking abilities of Pirlo.
 
kietotheworld said:
Not that much different, Gerrard and Lampard were better than Scholes for a few years between 2003 and 2006/07, so was Beckham for that matter. People seem to forget this about Scholes, there was a period when he was thought to be past it before he suffered that weird eye/brain injury, before 06/07 he was struggling to adapt to playing a deeper role. In the advanced role Gerrard and Lampard were probably as good as he ever was at it anyway.

After 2007, sure, he'd mastered it brilliantly and he'd have been a blessing to any England side, but are you really going to build a team around a player of that age?
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I don't think it was Scholes struggling in the role, I think it was more that people were struggling to get their head around the fact that he wasn't scoring as many goals, and instantly said he was in decline because of it. When in actual fact he'd changed his playing style completely.
 
Didi at 34 was still a key player for Brazil in 1962, Bobby Charlton was still a key player at the age of 33 in 1970, Dunga and Laudrup at 34 in 1998, Zidane at 34 and Figo at 33 in 2006...when you've got a player as good as Scholes who also gives your team exactly what it lacks, it's a no-brainer to make him a key player right up until he retires.
 
Summit said:
I don't think it was Scholes struggling in the role, I think it was more that people were struggling to get their head around the fact that he wasn't scoring as many goals, and instantly said he was in decline because of it. When in actual fact he'd changed his playing style completely.
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This sounds about right.
 
I love the man, he is genuinely one of the best ever and seeing him come brought a tear to my eye...but I think he's done in a two man midfield.

It's not like last night was the first time, but we are simply not going to get anywhere with a midfield like Carrick/Scholes (of 2012/13).

I don't blame the Ginger Ninja - he's doing his best - but he doesn't cover enough ground nor provide enough stability for us in a 442. And so our amazing attack is stifled because we either can't get the ball, or have to commit all the wingers back to defending to support him. (and yes Kagawa is an AMF, but he was clearly not in central midfield last night)

30/40 minute cameos towards the end of matches against locked up defenses? Yes please. Starting important matches? That ship has sailed.
 
SharkyMcShark said:
We had a 3 man midfield last night.
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We really didn't. You can call it a 442 with Kagawa as a support striker or a 4231, but either way only Carrick and Scholes were defending deeper than the centre circle.

If you watch teams like Juve, Chelsea, or even Madrid they play 3 IN midfield.
 
Scholesy is a great player but he's not got the legs to show his true ability over 90 minutes. Put him on in the last 20-30 minutes where he can just run himself out to time. If you play him from the start you know he's not going to be that mobile because he knows he has to conserve energy and can't play box to box for an hour and a half. We saw against Southampton that he can play box to box in very short bursts but only in short bursts. Last night he just ran out of steam and was expected to do more than he should be expected to do at his age. Yes he have the ball away a lot but we shouldn't underestimate how much that was down to fatigue both physical and psychological.
 
Beachryan said:
We really didn't. You can call it a 442 with Kagawa as a support striker or a 4231, but either way only Carrick and Scholes were defending deeper than the centre circle.

If you watch teams like Juve, Chelsea, or even Madrid they play 3 IN midfield.
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It´s always more entertaining to watch United play with two wingers and two forwards, yesterday was two wingers and one forward. I like to know when we changed our style to 4-5-1(we were ofcourse probably already playin 4-5-1 when it happened but stick to it then) when going a goal down. It seems we always change it to 442:confused: Why do we do that if 4-5-1 is the way to go? 4-5-1 is fecking boring unless we play the Arse away. 4-4-2 home and away please
 
Just stumbled by this on twitter

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I think Scholes should never start a game for Utd,at max he should be used as a sub.Other than that it is pointless starting a game with Scholes,as he can't keep up with the speed of the game.Same goes with Giggs.
 
ehsanul said:
I think Scholes should never start a game for Utd,at max he should be used as a sub.Other than that it is pointless starting a game with Scholes,as he can't keep up with the speed of the game.Same goes with Giggs.
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:lol:
 
Sultan said:
:lol:
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Aye, yesterday was Scholes' first poor game since he came back in January. His first time pass to Nani last night was :drool: too, clearly Scholes shouldn't start two games within 4 days or so but he's good for a start every week and he should be used in the last half an hour in games where we get pressed high.
 
Playing him more then twice a week is foolish, twice in four days is just stupid.

We've got to use him wisely, and that means one game a week max imo.
 
Love the La Masia quote. Scholes is so perfect for that kind of football as well. The fact that he's done the business in England as a goalscoring midfielder as well shows you the level of talent he has.
 
Sultan said:
He was as good as any of our other players last night.
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I dunno, maybe it's the high expectations I have of him but the two misplaced passes nearly cost us goals and he completed far less passes than Carrick, I felt the game rather passed him by.
 
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Just stumbled by this on twitter

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Great picture. A true legend. How many people get out of retirement and still have the role he's having now at a team like United?!

By the way, LOL at Pele, even when he's trying to praise other people, he end up praising himself. :lol:
 
That was disgustingly beautiful.
 
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