Paul Scholes | 2012/13 Performances

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KingEric7 said:
It's hilarious that Paul Scholes is still our best midfielder. For all the talk of formations pitting Carrick with Cleverley, Kagawa, Anderson etc...surely if fit Scholes must start whenever possible?

Absolutely class that he can go up against the generation's best at 37 and still look quality.
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He's quality but having Carrick available to us now is vital, Scholes is important but if the likes of Cleverley, Kagawa and even Anderson can stay injury free then I think you will see we can rely on him a lot less.

I'm not sure we can say the same about Carrick at the moment.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
did not watch the match tonight , but from what I have read he was excellent.
My question is can he last another long hard PL season?
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I believe if he use him properly, he could stay two more seasons.
 
we should give him 2 months off... end of Nov or whenever the end of the group stage of the CL ends... to the end of Jan... just to keep him fresh
 
His passing was static and ineffective tonight. The problem is when you take away his passing he doesn't have too much else to offer in his older age.
 
Cheesy said:
His passing was static and ineffective tonight. The problem is when you take away his passing he doesn't have too much else to offer in his older age.
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I'm afraid I agree. Scholes looked to want too much time to do anything tonight and his instinct to go wide left him looking down blind alleys when it became obvious that those avenues were closed off cos of the 4-3-3. It was not one of his better games and although he did get better in the second half and show more drive and adventure he still didn't really ever look like he was going to pick the lock of the Everton back line. Dare-I-say-it Scholes was very predictable tonight you could tell that 90% of the time he was going to look to get it to the full backs as the overlapped and as nothing was going on out wide it all led to nothing.
 
Sometimes hes too interested in passing. There was one chance at least yesterday for him to have a shot in a good position in addition to the one he took. Its annoyed me a bit in the past as well. He does a shot feint, looking like hes going to blast it, but instead pings it out to the wing. Sometimes it works well, but in a game where we struggle so much to get the ball through to the forward players, our midfielders need to take some shots, especially a player like Scholes who has a very good shot on him.
 
#07 said:
I'm afraid I agree. Scholes looked to want too much time to do anything tonight and his instinct to go wide left him looking down blind alleys when it became obvious that those avenues were closed off cos of the 4-3-3. It was not one of his better games and although he did get better in the second half and show more drive and adventure he still didn't really ever look like he was going to pick the lock of the Everton back line. Dare-I-say-it Scholes was very predictable tonight you could tell that 90% of the time he was going to look to get it to the full backs as the overlapped and as nothing was going on out wide it all led to nothing.
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But you've got to blame the wingers and choice of attackers in that situation. Scholes had his problems yest but I think it's harsh to point out the wide pass. That's what you need against a team that sets up like Everton did, particularly when they were winning. You need to get in behind them from out wide. Our wingers/full backs didn't get in behind and their delivery was poor. That was the bigger problem.
 
I think it's exactly what you don't need, because Distin absolutely dominated our forwards in the air from crosses. I could tell after 60 minutes that it was pointless to keep pinging them in, but we kept at it anyway, as usual.
 
Cina said:
I think it's exactly what you don't need, because Distin absolutely dominated our forwards in the air from crosses. I could tell after 60 minutes that it was pointless to keep pinging them in, but we kept at it anyway, as usual.
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It was pointless pinging them in, but they weren't really crosses as much as diagonlas. We didn't get behind them at all until later on.
 
Well that's why you need to get in behind, so you can drill crosses in on the ground, or pull it back. I think it was too congested to go through the middle bar a piece of magic. But if the likes of Valencia, Nani, had taken on their man better they may have one more dangerous freekicks or just got in better places to fizz a ball across.
 
Scholes hit 97% of his passes accurately last night, it's not his fault if the people in front of him/around him arn't making runs or getting into good enough positions... because if they had, I reckon Scholes would have found them.
 
moses said:
It was pointless pinging them in, but they weren't really crosses as much as diagonlas. We didn't get behind them at all until later on.
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It seemed like we were all out of ideas though. We kept possession very well right outside their box, but we lacked the guts to try to get them through their defense and opted to go out in the wing, where Everton did very well to restrict our wingers/overlaps. We didnt get much time to get a cross in, thus the crosses were easily dealt with by Distin and Jag. What we needed today was a Nani in top form who could beat a man, rather then pussy around on the wing, not daring to go for the throat.
 
Ash_G said:
Well that's why you need to get in behind, so you can drill crosses in on the ground, or pull it back. I think it was too congested to go through the middle bar a piece of magic. But if the likes of Valencia, Nani, had taken on their man better they may have one more dangerous freekicks or just got in better places to fizz a ball across.
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Kagawa was doing that though, but in the second half we seemed to have nobody making runs.

Dunno, last season I thought we were completely over reliant on our wingers, last night showed glimpses that Kagawa may help address those issues.
 
He can help address it no doubt but you still need that ability from wide imo. Look at Arsenal, that's exactly where they would fall down in the past because once Everton got the lead and kept it tight there was just no room to penetrate in the middle and that didn't matter when they had players as good as Kagawa at picking holes. Kagawa can give us a creativity in central areas that we have lacked but we'll still need quality from wide particularly in games where teams pack the middle.
 
It still to0 early to judge, however I hope that Scholes does not end up regretting of signing a new contract with us. The thought of him ending his football career like Gaz would be painful.
 
He's great for some games I just think Fergie uses him in the wrong games and really puts a lot of faith in him. Yest for example he should have gone off, he was a red card waiting to happen and was pretty fortunate really. Where teams will sit off us and look to draw he's a great weapon in other games I think he's better off coming on to see the game out.
 
I think he need to play in home games, and that's about it.

Saying that, his game lately very much revolves around our wingers doing something with his passes, who were awful last night.
 
Excellent when he came on. Carrick looks so much more comfortable when he plays beside Scholes it's unreal.
 
I said it earlier today in another thread, still our best cm. How could people doubted him after Everton game I will never understand.
 
I was sceptical about him coming on but when we go 442 there's noone better to get us going.
 
He's a bit of a question mark to be fair. Very good today, not good against Everton. Difficult for Fergie to pick him. But he is still class when on form, thats no doubt
 
Escobar said:
He's a bit of a question mark to be fair. Very good today, not good against Everton. Difficult for Fergie to pick him. But he is still class when on form, thats no doubt
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He started badly but finished the game our best player at everton
 
I throughly enjoyed the (suprising) amount of negative bollocks in the matchday thread about him coming on... Scholesy is a class act and will pretty much always help us keep the ball and build attacks better.
 
And to think people were criticising the way he made us play "zombie football" and kept pinging the ball to the wings, like that's a bad thing. Showed us once again why he's still our best midfielder. The alternative is getting the ball to the wingers even slower.
 
He speeds everything up, one touch then pass, making their defenders work and move round the pitch.
 
Tomuś said:
I said it earlier today in another thread, still our best cm. How could people doubted him after Everton game I will never understand.
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It seems to have been a trend that caught on very quickly at the start of the season.

I've no idea
 
Van Persie was right.

Everything was a hopeless pathetic mess until Scholes came on and nullified Carrick's zombieism along with the rest of the team's brainless panick-a-thon, pretty much all by himself.

Classy as you can get
 
kps88 said:
And to think people were criticising the way he made us play "zombie football" and kept pinging the ball to the wings, like that's a bad thing. Showed us once again why he's still our best midfielder. The alternative is getting the ball to the wingers even slower.
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I admit I have been harsh on him. Then again he doesn't last 90 mins anymore so today's cameo suited him perfectly, he is a brilliant option on the bench to bring on as a calming influence.
 
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