Paul Scholes | 2011/12 Performances

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Amir said:
Nope, I would certainly not expect Sir Alex to say so. Nor would I expect him to ask Scholes to return after failing to covince him to stay at the end of last season.

Regarding money, we spent a fair bit since signing our last midfielders in 2007. Some went for mid to more expensive signings - the likes of Berbatov, Valencia, Young, De Gea, Jones. Others were smaller deals in hope they'd come could (some did, others didn't). For whatever reason, none of them was a midfielder player, Fergie elected to sign centerhalves, wingers, strikers, goalkeepers, but not midfielders. That's his choice.
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I can see Scholes returning if SAF begged him to do so. Paul is a legend and he would do anything for the good of the team.

Regarding signings I don't think that the fees is the problem but the salaries. A top creative midfielder would want to be paid alot. That what fecked us with Nasri and Sneijder (I think)
 
devilish said:
I agree but my command of the english language isnt that great. I wanted a word which is stronger then asked
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Coerced? Persuaded? Requested? Stronger than 'asked' would seem to imply not asking so demanded or ordered.

Either way, i think in this instance we have to accept a very strong possibility that Scholes came back of his own accord. Had we already signed a player in midfield, Scholes knows there is no place for him so doesn't bother.

However in our current situation, he realised he probably could still be of some value to us, and Fergie bit his hand off. I don't see how, if SAF could not persuade him to sign a one year deal in the summer, he would have been able coax him out of retirement now, without Scholes being of a different mindset.
 
Scholes was added to the squad list in my mind to lift the fans and the morale of the club and to deflect from the many bad news articles we've had recently. I will also help us out in the next few games whilst Cleverley gets his fitness back.

ABU's will read in to this another way but you don't need more than an IQ of ten to see its a genius decision and i say this as a firm wearer of non rose-tinted specs.

P.S. Joey Barton - The only reason Scholes came on ahead of Anderson is a) the game should have been won at its present scoreline and Andersons qualities were not needed against ten men b) Gametime for Scholes.
 
What I do find interesting about this is that Scholes says he was missing playing and came out of retirement as a consequence of that, obviously it hasn't been discussed yet but can we assume that Scholes may very well stay on beyond this season?
 
redmanc said:
Scholes was added to the squad list in my mind to lift the fans and the morale of the club and to deflect from the many bad news articles we've had recently. I will also help us out in the next few games whilst Cleverley gets his fitness back.

ABU's will read in to this another way but you don't need more than an IQ of ten to see its a genius decision and i say this as a firm wearer of non rose-tinted specs.

P.S. Joey Barton - The only reason Scholes came on ahead of Anderson is a) the game should have been won at its present scoreline and Andersons qualities were not needed against ten men b) Gametime for Scholes.
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SAF: Scholesy, I know you retired, but I think the fans need a lift, it would be a real Rocky moment if you got back on the field again, and it would get the papers off our backs! I know that's a big issue to you, newspapers.

PS: The fans are depressed and the papers are giving us a hard time?! I'll get my trainers!

SAF: And, you know, with Cleverley still injured you might play some.

PS: If I must.
 
charlenefan said:
What I do find interesting about this is that Scholes says he was missing playing and came out of retirement as a consequence of that, obviously it hasn't been discussed yet but can we assume that Scholes may very well stay on beyond this season?
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I would think he would be less likely to come back if it was just for half a season. As I recall, he said he didn't want to be a bench player, if he didn't feel he was playing well enough to start he didn't want to play. Perhaps he's changed his mind, and now feels that contributing is enough.

If that's the case, he could play for years yet, his ability on the ball is so immense that as long as he can walk I think he would be worth adding to your squad for depth.
 
apotheosis said:
Coerced? Persuaded? Requested? Stronger than 'asked' would seem to imply not asking so demanded or ordered.

Either way, i think in this instance we have to accept a very strong possibility that Scholes came back of his own accord. Had we already signed a player in midfield, Scholes knows there is no place for him so doesn't bother.

However in our current situation, he realised he probably could still be of some value to us, and Fergie bit his hand off. I don't see how, if SAF could not persuade him to sign a one year deal in the summer, he would have been able coax him out of retirement now, without Scholes being of a different mindset.
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I doubt that Scholes would have left SAF in shite just to stick to his guns. Its just few months of well paid football after all.
 
On Paul Scholes's return:
"I don't know how we managed (to keep his return under wraps). We registered him on the Friday, and we thought somehow it would get out. We kept it on Friday as late as we possibly could. Of course the game was on Sunday so you had Friday night, the whole of Saturday and Sunday morning to worry about it, but somehow we managed to keep it quiet. We didn't let any of the players know.
"We did that simply because of the impact value. We were going away from home in a very difficult FA Cup tie against City. We had 5,000 fans at that end of the ground and as soon as they knew his name was on the team sheet they were fantastic, there was a great response.
"There were no negatives as far as I was concerned ... The only negative you were going to get was from the press, and one or two have been negative. They're making out it's been a 'regressive step' for Manchester United. How can it be regressive? You're getting a player for nothing who's been part of the club for 20-odd years, so how can it be regressive?
"He knows the club. He's not going to play every game, and Paul knows that. But in terms of composure and passing ability, is there a better player going around? Definitely not."
 
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Paul Scholes, so sexy on the ball he causes pants to fall.
 
StanleyCupboard said:
On Paul Scholes's return:
"I don't know how we managed (to keep his return under wraps). We registered him on the Friday, and we thought somehow it would get out. We kept it on Friday as late as we possibly could. Of course the game was on Sunday so you had Friday night, the whole of Saturday and Sunday morning to worry about it, but somehow we managed to keep it quiet. We didn't let any of the players know.
"We did that simply because of the impact value. We were going away from home in a very difficult FA Cup tie against City. We had 5,000 fans at that end of the ground and as soon as they knew his name was on the team sheet they were fantastic, there was a great response.
"There were no negatives as far as I was concerned ... The only negative you were going to get was from the press, and one or two have been negative. They're making out it's been a 'regressive step' for Manchester United. How can it be regressive? You're getting a player for nothing who's been part of the club for 20-odd years, so how can it be regressive?
"He knows the club. He's not going to play every game, and Paul knows that. But in terms of composure and passing ability, is there a better player going around? Definitely not."
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That is one of the most interesting things I've ever read.
 
SAF didn't say it, but I wonder if Paul's return in this particular game was partially designed to put the frighteners on City, given how effective he's been against them in the past.
 
I don't think it was to put the frighteners on City but I did say bringing Scholes back would have been a confidence boost before the game for the players. He's as good a passer as there is, any team would be boosted by the presence of such a player.
 
Typical of him to be in that position, calm finish too.
 
151 - With that goal, Paul #Scholes enters the top 10 scorers of all time at Manchester United. Beating Nistelrooy (150) #mufc



God I love the man so much. GET HIM ON THAT PLANE
 
amolbhatia100 said:
And during a relatively lean period for the club as well (as per recent standards).
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Ronaldo, Rooney, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Saha. He had the support to get the goals.

The only reason for our absence of European success was Van Der Sar and Vidic in my opinion.
 
Typical Scholes late run into the box and positioned for a tidy finish. We've missed that from midfield.

Also his tackling seems to have improved since he retired. It was spot on today.
 
Michael Carrick on Paul Scholes' goalscoring return in Manchester United's 3-0 win over Bolton: "It was fitting that he scored on his first start back. It was great to have him back because he's such a great player. He fitted right in and although he was blowing a bit after an hour it was great to have him in the side."

I fear for Carrick. He better stay away from Scholes in training :D
 
His performance and finishing left me thinking...why not play him in the hole? He obviously doesn't have the legs to track back frequent, but if he played as a "10" he could drop deep to receive and provide balls out to the wings/killer balls.
 
I thought it was a risk starting with him but he did really well and surprised me somewhat. His passing is still not quite at it's brilliant best but it's still better than most and will only get better with games. Movement and awareness was there and aside from one moment he was very sensible in the tackle today. All in all it's great to have him back and he's a big bonus with our injuries atm. Giggs and Jones needed a break and with Ando out it was good to be able to bring in another midfielder rather than put someone out of position.
 
Lynk said:
His performance and finishing left me thinking...why not play him in the hole? He obviously doesn't have the legs to track back frequent, but if he played as a "10" he could drop deep to receive and provide balls out to the wings/killer balls.
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I was thinking this, give a half a yard to shoot and he'll hit the target more often than not. His passing and touch was off today but he was getting forward a lot more than I remember him doing in his last few seasons here.
 
Lynk said:
His performance and finishing left me thinking...why not play him in the hole? He obviously doesn't have the legs to track back frequent, but if he played as a "10" he could drop deep to receive and provide balls out to the wings/killer balls.
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Because we already have someone in that position.
 
I actully wouldnt be surprised if he signed an extension at the end of the season. Especially if Giggs retires.
 
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