Pogba right now isn't as good as prime Viera or Toure, no way. But he has every chance to surpass both when he does hit his prime.
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He was taking piss, I laughed.
I do think he needs to hit the ground running for us if / when he signs. Im also wondering what output is acceptable given the money paid?
10 goals, 15 assists? More? Less?
Or does it not matter as long as we dominate games / win.
10 goals, 15 assists? More? Less?
Or does it not matter as long as we dominate games / win.
Definitely, and it will be a sight to behold.
This.
Acceptable to whom? If we win the league I wouldn't give a toss if we'd dropped £35m on Troy Deeney.
And after two seasons of LvG, a single screamer from outside the area is worth £50m to me.
Well he managed 8 goals 12 assists in Serie A last season, and Juventus are a level above any other side in the league. He was also very settled there and arguably it's a weaker league than the Prem.
So based on that, I'd expect around 5 goals and 10 assists in the league next season.
If he gets to play in it.
I'm not comparing them (although Pogba isn't far behind despite being a completely different type of player).
Yep, that's why I refuse to jump into this lovely warm 'Pogba is definitely done' camp until I see the United website confirm it.
I allowed myself to believe Thiago was already a United player, after that I vowed never again.
Ah, there your are. I remember you were to the Sneijder thread what Pexbo was to the Vidal one.
I didn't claim you were, just pointing out that unlike Real, we're spending a world record fee who isn't in the discussion for best player in the world. And yes, they are hard to compare due to being different players, but I wouldn't say Pogba isn't far behind.
Looking forward to clicking onto RedCafe soon and being met with...
She cannae take the strain, capt'n!
She cannae take the strain, capt'n!
I thought the fee was ridiculous too at first, but it's clear the market has changed since Ronaldo. I don't even want to imagine what his fee would have been if he was sold in 2016.
We're in a market where Higuain is worth 75 million and a player who is only potential (Sane) is worth 37m.
He better play significant minutes against Southampton, that's my first ever visit to OT. And Mourinho isn't LvG where he stressed "match rhythm." I think he'll start against the Saints.
I think it's very wishful thinking, I think he'll come off the bench against Southampton. Anything more than that would be too soon sadly.
Just got home and would rather not go through the 15+ pages that I missed. From the last page though it looks like people are being rather negative. Has something bad happened?
Tomorrow is the day Sky thought he would fly to Manchester
Tomorrow is the day Sky thought he would fly to Manchester
I feel you.... Thiago was the first saga I was exposed to as a redcafe member. The effects were long lasting and I still don't let myself get too attached to the idea of signing any player. Lesson learnt.
They did but surely there would have to be an announcement 1st. Can't see that happening to be honest.
Would love to be wrong.
Yeah you could argue Ronaldo, when we sold him, would be now worth close to £200m. Easily £150m.
I'm confident he will be in the discussion in a year or two. Comparing him to Ronaldo or Messi obviously obscures the reality that he is influential in a different way than they are and will never have the sort of goal tallies as they do. That said, I do lean towards Zidane's view of his potential.
Viera in my opinion is much better than both but fair enough you have your opinion. But Viera was awesome neither Pogba (yet) or Toure have ever been awesome.
Think Zidane's over the top there, on account of Pogba being a young French talent and potentially wanting to tap him up at the time. Definitely some heavy bias.
Let's say when Ronaldo left us he was a 10/10 ( I know he wasn't) I'd put PP at around an 8, if you know what I mean.
To be fair Juventus team that Pogba was playing for was much superior to City.
You're right - there's definitely a French bias thing going on and probably a tap up involved. That said, we do have the best young midfielder in the world at this time, who will be our most influential player for the next 6-7 years.
Agreed
In Martial & Pogba you've got two massive French talents who could form quite a link up, potentially one similar to Kane/Alli if Pogba is played further up the pitch.
Pogba and Drake have been posing with a Juve shirt with Pogba 10 on the back. It's on instagram and Facebook.
Mourinho says we will have signed a very good midfielder by the end of the window window but wouldn't name Pogba as he's still a Juventus player at the moment.
No, Di Marzio said that the deal was agreed to and the clubs had to do the paper work before all the signatures. If the papers are done, we are now just waiting for Pogba's signature and medical.
Obviously he's going to give him a Juventus jersey, he hasn't been announced as a Manchester United player yet, nor does he have a number assigned.He was arguably worth that then. £80 million for a 25 year old Ballon Dor winner sounds like free signing considering what they got back off him.
Could he have given him a Juve jersey he's actually played in and signed etc?
Why would you buy last season's shirt and get it printed for Drake..
Why would you buy last season's shirt and get it printed for Drake..
Yeah, that seems pretty plausible.
Because this seasons shirt is Dybala 10
That's what I was thinking. Drake has been pictured in a Pogba Juve jersey before, so a game-worn one might be a nice present.
Also, it could be a nice collector's item as the last Juve jersey Pogba ever gave out.
So is he due to fly out tomorrow (saturday) and leave the states?
I know some will dispute it, but I'd say Pogba would be our first prime "World Class" player since Ronaldo left.
23 years old and would be a natural starter for any club or country in the World currently.
RvP was maybe closest to it in between, but was 29 and perhaps just at the brow of his peak
Di Maria was widely acknowledged as world class when we bought him.
Has this thread taken the Mourinho press conference comments, analysed them to death, and found some way of not believing him when he said "a big signing is close"?