You see that's the fallacy of the muppet (not necessarily calling you a muppet), this is idea of 'guaranteed' success. This idea that there is no risk in transfer.
One could argue that 100m for Pogba is the biggest 'punt' of them all.
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You see that's the fallacy of the muppet (not necessarily calling you a muppet), this is idea of 'guaranteed' success. This idea that there is no risk in transfer.
One could argue that 100m for Pogba is the biggest 'punt' of them all.
I wasn't talking about your stance on Pogba, saying 100M is too much for a player is fair IMO.
It was how you glorified Gundogan and Sane and put down Mkhi that I picked up on.
Do I have to? Again? I've gone over and over this. My main reason is I don't like this style (footballing style) of midfielder. I'd prefer a more dynamic pacier all action midfielder than Pogba.
I asked him before. The key point is he doesn't like his hairstyle.
What if the Earth was flat? What if we could sign Messi on a free? Equally pointless hypotheticals.
The minute we join a bidding war with City/Chelsea over a player the transfer fee rockets and there's no way you're getting any two of those players for combined wages of equal to or less than Pogba will be getting.
In your opinion, who can we get with that amount of money? Who is better suited to us?
It makes sense that it's not a done deal. This idea that it's all done and we're waiting for the optimal day to make a big announcement makes no sense at all. Juve couldn't give a shite about what adidas or our PR team think. They'll announce the sale whenever they want. Just like Dortmund beat us to the punch with Mkitaryan. This ongoing delay is clearly because there are still negotiations ongoing. It has to be.
I didn't 'glorify' them. I compared the three signings Gundgona, Sane and Kante to the one signing Pogba.
And I didn't 'put down' Mkhi. Calling him a 'bit of a punt' isn't a put down. Again, without de-railing the thread, I see Mhki as a bit of a punt in the sense that he is a 27 year old player who we probably won't sell on at a profit (so its a sunk cost from day one) and who really has only had one breakout season in Germany. I see Mhki as being a bit like Payet, now there is a 'punt' that worked out great. But I just hope he doesn't work out like Kagawa.
I've consistently said I'd prefer someone like Kroos in midfield than Pogba. Again this thing of 'who can we get' with the money is what gets me. Sure we can throw money at Juve for Pogba but jsut because they accept doesn't mean he's the best option. Obviously Jose thinks he is. All I'm saying is I don't like Pogba's style and don't think I'd enjoy watching him as much as other players.
Or that there are formalities left to be completed, like newspapers are claiming. Although I have never heard formalities taking this much time!
Each transfer can be called a punt, nothing is a sure thing in football. Gundogan with his injury record could be called a punt, as could Sane because he's so young.
Maybe. It is hypothetical. As are most discussions on here. Not sure why I'm so out of step by talking hypothetically.
Now you are just re-posting what I said earlier.
Good. Then maybe you should stick to that point rather than talking about how money is wasted, when we could have gone for many other players, especially the ones our rivals bought. And especially when you are not comparing with players in the same position. Why would you want us to go after Sane when we need a midfielder?
Sorry if already reported but Sky News have just said Pogba released from his obligations with Juve and doesn't need to return to Turin at the weekend.
Di Marzio explained it last night. A £100m deal has a lot of small details and all are under scrutiny. The last details were/are being finalised before everything's handed to Juventus to sign. Then it really will be a "done deal".
Not really, we're talking about the actual transfer of Pogba, to my eyes you're the only one throwing up hypotheticals.
.....And seconds later you say you'd rather have Kroos, you're either on the wind up or a full blown dumbass. Also who the feck is more dynamic, pacier or all action than Pogba and available?
100% agree. Though becareful you will probably be slated for being negative and attention seeking.
Something still doesn't add up to me on this, I am fully expecting to hear something today, all this stuff about paperwork being signed is BS, at the moment I genuinely believe there is no deal.
He's been repeating the same crap for weeks now. He's said he doesn't like Pogba because of his hair, and that he'd rather have Matuidi instead of him. The guy isn't worth talking to but every time people bite.
And why the feck should anyone put so much stock in what you think? On a forum where opinions are the driving force of discussion, it would be wise of you to listen to what others say. You argue like a pompous child.
Em. I was reply to another poster who listed out those signings. Is reply to other people in a discussion forum not allowed now
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How is this type of crap allowed? I've a differing opinion, I made a joke about Pogba's hair ages ago. I don't like Pogba's style of midfielder. I'd prefer other options. I like Kante, Matuidi. I like Kroos. I don't like Pogba. And just coz of that I get this kind of crap every time I get involved in the conversation.
Forget available, I can't really think of any apart from maybe Modric, available or not. He's on the wum.
We already know your opinion. Move on...
While not being over enamoured with the fee - that description is almost exactly what he is. He isn't a metronomic passer, nor incredibly skilful - what he is is a player who can pick the ball up, run with it, score and create, as well as put his foot in if needs be. He is dynamic, he is "all action", he's physical and he's quick - that's exactly why Mourinho thinks he can be the fulcrum of our team.
Do we need sane? no, do we need pogba? oh yes, that powerful driving midfielder is exactly what we need, we have the wide boys, the forwards, but we need a CM, we probably need pogba and another 2, especially if herrera and morgan don't work out. I would like to see morgan, herrera and pogba in a midfield 3, but at the end of the day pogba is exactly what we need, and its a jose mourinho signing which makes it a must signing. Jose Mourinho asked for 4 specialist players, and Pogba is one of those players
Serie A begins two or three weeks after Premier League, Juventus have only got back to training a few days ago.
I agree, he's going to be in the middle of the most expensive transfer ever and if all that prevents us from signing him is that he doesn't want his holiday cut short by 3 or 4 days, I honestly don't like it. He won't have the chance to play in any of the friendlies or Community Shield, he will probably not make his debut until September.
Didn't see that post, but you can't say only one of our signings is a bit of a punt when you speak so well of other teams signings.
That's what people called you out on.
Anyway, back to Pogba.
Not skilful? He has amazing skill, touch and close control. Rarely see it in a cm of his ilk (ie, combining it with a big body, power and pace).
Have Juve officially said that or just 'sky sources'?
Rio probably knows as much as our current players. Only the manager and our board would have a better idea about the deal than him.
I think he's more physical than 'all action'. Relies on his phsyique rather than dynamism.
Would you stop, I'd be surprised if the man even has 50 top flight appearances to his name and I don't think he speaks a word of fackin English.
Give him time to adapt, people have expectations that he's going to be like a prime vidic right from the off.
Em. I was reply to another poster who listed out those signings. Is reply to other people in a discussion forum not allowed now
You did say that those 3 would have been perfect signings rather than Pogba. So you are saying these signings will help our team while Pogba wont.
Though I still don't understand why would we go for Sane when we want midfielder.
Then you followed it by
You did proceed to be dismissive of our other signings, referring them to be inferior.
Anyways, if your point is "I dont like Pogba", then it is a personal opinion. Nothing to discuss. If your point is "Pogba is no good for our team", only then we have a discussion.
Say what now?
I'm the only one in the transfer forum throwing up hypotheticals? Okay. Wow. Now there's a mad post if ever I saw one.
The very fact that we got into the conversation about Sane, Kante & Gundongan was because I replied to ANOTHER post I might add.
No I didn't. Show me ONE place where I did that. Jesus wept.
No point signing Pogba now is there? If he's not fit for the start of the season, we will drop point, thus our hope to win the league is effectively over already. There's always next year.