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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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StanleyCupboard said:
Absolute and complete wibble
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He's right on the logic, but a player signing is not considered a major change. Only something that effects the share holders is consider major. Massive sponsorship deal, significant increase / decrease in earnings etc. Pogba while being expensive is just another player signing, and only about 50% of our gross profit from last year.

Like, Pogba would be a fixed asset if I am correct?, and only major operational changes are considered worthwhile to the stock exchange. My girlfriend is a funds accountant and she thinks a player could be a fixed asset?
 
jungledrums said:
I'm even bored typing this post myself, but I'll bite. Adidas take the vast majority of shirt sales. Literally nothing more needs to be said, but I hope you in fact will see sense in what everyone else is saying.
"No club has ever directly recouped a player’s transfer fee through shirt sales. Adidas, Nike, Puma, and other kit suppliers get 85-90% of shirt sale revenue and this is the industry standard... at best, United are likely to see around £3 million in additional revenue".

Thanks to whoever initially posted this link, hell of a find. http://thesetpieces.com/features/transfer-window-myth-busting/#ixzz4FlsvvP7E
Edit: CS@SG gets the credit.
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Thanks, will surely read this.
jungledrums said:
I'm even bored typing this post myself, but I'll bite. Adidas take the vast majority of shirt sales. Literally nothing more needs to be said, but I hope you in fact will see sense in what everyone else is saying.
"No club has ever directly recouped a player’s transfer fee through shirt sales. Adidas, Nike, Puma, and other kit suppliers get 85-90% of shirt sale revenue and this is the industry standard... at best, United are likely to see around £3 million in additional revenue".

Thanks to whoever initially posted this link, hell of a find. http://thesetpieces.com/features/transfer-window-myth-busting/#ixzz4FlsvvP7E
Edit: CS@SG gets the credit.
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Interesting read, thank you.
 
William Hill said:
Nothing. Just nothing. Just as the past 2 months. Or the past decade, when it comes to securing a worldclass midfielder..
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Rest assured... Even when we do sign pogba we won't have signed aa world class midfielder
 
Crackers said:
He's right on the logic, but a player signing is not considered a major change. Only something that effects the share holders is consider major. Massive sponsorship deal, significant increase / decrease in earnings etc. Pogba while being expensive is just another player signing, and only about 50% of our gross profit from last year.

Like, Pogba would be a fixed asset if I am correct?, and only major operational changes are considered worthwhile to the stock exchange. My girlfriend is a funds accountant and she thinks a player could be a fixed asset?
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I'll take your word for it but it does seem coincidental that, as another poster mentioned, we keep announcing signings during stock market hours.
 
I can't put my finger on why, but something just doesn't feel right about all this.

Maybe it's the time it's dragged out, or the lack of BBC or SSN really getting involved, but much as he seems to be close to signing, somehow the feel for it actually happening isn't there , like it's all been some elaborate hoax at our expense.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
something to do with fair trading by stock market rules. dont understand it entirely but if you're listed on a stock exchange your major changes should only be announced during the stock exchanges open hours. obviously we're on new york stock exchange.
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What is the basis of this btw? I mean, I work in finance and I've never heard about this. Companies release earnings after market close quite often. If I remember correctly, we announced Fellaini past midnight UK time and Mata after the market close as well.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I can't put my finger on why, but something just doesn't feel right about all this.

Maybe it's the time it's dragged out, or the lack of BBC or SSN really getting involved, but much as he seems to be close to signing, somehow the feel for it actually happening isn't there , like it's all been some elaborate hoax at our expense.
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I've been feeling the same way since the beginning.. Maybe just too many bad experiences in the past, maybe another saga with a disappointing ending..

That's the reason why I don't let me carried away by all the great news from "Italian top journos" but rather wait for official confirmation IF it comes of course.
 
RedCurry said:
What is the basis of this btw? I mean, I work in finance and I've never heard about this. Companies release earnings after market close quite often. If I remember correctly, we announced Fellaini past midnight UK time and Mata after the market close as well.
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It's bollocks. It's a myth that has been repeated so many times that people believe it.
 
RedCurry said:
What is the basis of this btw? I mean, I work in finance and I've never heard about this. Companies release earnings after market close quite often. If I remember correctly, we announced Fellaini past midnight UK time and Mata after the market close as well.
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It was from a thread on Talking Reds. Someone suggested that because a player is a source of income for a club that they need to be registered during stock exchange open hours to avoid illegal trading or something. Apparently if you're registered on a stock exchange anything which effects your earning potential or share price needs to be announced during stock exchange hours. Like i said, its not something i know a lot about and i couldnt swear its accurate or whether a player would actually fall into that category or not.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
I'll take your word for it but it does seem coincidental that, as another poster mentioned, we keep announcing signings during stock market hours.
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RedCurry said:
What is the basis of this btw? I mean, I work in finance and I've never heard about this. Companies release earnings after market close quite often. If I remember correctly, we announced Fellaini past midnight UK time and Mata after the market close as well.
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Comparing these 2 quotes makes me further think that there's no correlation between stock market times and announcing signings. Most times I'd say we just need time to prepare. Better to announce it in the afternoon, which happens to coincide with stock market timea over there. It's just coincidence
 


Pogba to United - It's all done. Player ready to fly to London - waits for the go ahead from Juve.
 
RedCurry said:
What is the basis of this btw? I mean, I work in finance and I've never heard about this. Companies release earnings after market close quite often. If I remember correctly, we announced Fellaini past midnight UK time and Mata after the market close as well.
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Even Juventus announced the higuain deal after market close and they also are lsited on the stock exchange. So there seems to be no truth in it.

On an other note why should a club announce signings late at night when most of the people aren't checking for updates constantly if they could get a much higher attention by announcing during the day if possible. So I think that doesn't mean anything in relation to stock market rules tbh.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I can't put my finger on why, but something just doesn't feel right about all this.

Maybe it's the time it's dragged out, or the lack of BBC or SSN really getting involved, but much as he seems to be close to signing, somehow the feel for it actually happening isn't there , like it's all been some elaborate hoax at our expense.
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I kind of feel the same. Considering this is the biggest transfer ever you'd be expecting BBC and definitely Sky to be all over it.
 
Quizierda said:
Even Juventus announced the higuain deal after market close and they also are lsited on the stock exchange. So there seems to be no truth in it.

On an other note why should a club announce signings late at night when most of the people aren't checking for updates constantly if they could get a much higher attention by announcing during the day if possible. So I think that doesn't mean anything in relation to stock market rules tbh.
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That's pretty much what I think it is. Signings are just announced when the club's marketing thinks is the best time to announce it to get maximum attention. Usually the best time coincides with NYSE market open timings.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
It was from a thread on Talking Reds. Someone suggested that because a player is a source of income for a club that they need to be registered during stock exchange open hours to avoid illegal trading or something. Apparently if you're registered on a stock exchange anything which effects your earning potential or share price needs to be announced during stock exchange hours. Like i said, its not something i know a lot about and i couldnt swear its accurate or whether a player would actually fall into that category or not.
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In reality, buying a player is somewhere between capital purchase of machinery and hiring new staff for a non-footballing business.

Neither of those require a statement to the shareholders.
 
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