The agent fee will be sorted soon enough. In SSN the woman said the deal is very advanced. I'm still confident.
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They are crap. But you don't sign average players just because we have crap. We need top players like Pogba to reach the top. We shouldn't settle for average.
The muppets are going to kill you for saying that.
No CEO in football has such an illustrious list of failed targets.
Our midfield is average, that's the problem. Matuidi would increase the numbers without increasing the quality. I'd rather we overpaid for someone who is going to significantly improve us.
Should've just got Pjanic. Can't believe we didn't even go for him at under £30m.
Raiola will want the deal done as well, and if the stumbling block is his fee then he should cut his fee to make a deal happen. Or we should drop the deal until he does. We have made a fortune for him already this summer. Truly astonishing an agent wants £20m for a deal. What exactly does he do to earn that money other than put contact between the clubs, madness.
He has a choice of that or we get Matiudi and his fee being significantly less than the Pogba deal.
He has a choice of that or we get Matiudi and his fee being significantly less than the Pogba deal.
"Theza taikina da pissa" £120m and we pay that fat grubslinger his cut that Juve contracted too,
Let's walk away, and I bet now they have jizzed money on Gonzo, they'll come knocking !!
Let's walk away, and I bet now they have jizzed money on Gonzo, they'll come knocking !!
@Gasolin ,sorry for the late reply.About Madrid financial situation...In the past Madrid always sold before buying top players but to be honest I think that they can afford it.The only investment this summer was Morata and since Juve had paid before the total cost was 10m€?. Even the "free" press close to the club has doubts about the financial situation of the club so I have no idea if it's good or bad but I wouldn't take for granted that they can't afford the player.Madrid are still paying for Bale,dividing the payment in several years.For example they could offer Kovacic,some player on loan +25 during 4 years to equal United offer(just an example).
If they want to sell before buying maybe is to get cash in order to get a discount in the final price of the player.
Bankia(the bank of Bale's loan)was involved in a famous case of corruption.
Anyway I don't think that the loan was dubious,Madrid have debt but pay it and has an income of 600m€ every year,besides nobody will prosecute Madrid in Spain.You should know,that is in the 1st lesson of muppetry
If they want to sell before buying maybe is to get cash in order to get a discount in the final price of the player.
Bankia(the bank of Bale's loan)was involved in a famous case of corruption.
Anyway I don't think that the loan was dubious,Madrid have debt but pay it and has an income of 600m€ every year,besides nobody will prosecute Madrid in Spain.You should know,that is in the 1st lesson of muppetry
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Yes very much so. The odds have swung hugely towards real Madrid in recent days, we are still favourites but it is very narrow, there was a point where you could get him staying at juve at 10 and Madrid at 20 its not Madrid 2/5
The problem is that Raiola is also Matuidi's agent, innit? But since both were at the Euros and are in vacations and will get back at the same time, I think United can wait now. The ball is in Juventus' side. They have Higuain's the big bill to pay, after all.
Matuidi as a backup to Pogba? 
Would Barca, Real have him as a backup to Pogba? No. We are shopping a few levels above Matuidi's for a reason. We don't have any major quality in our MF. That's why we are a bit chit the last 3 years you know...
Would Barca, Real have him as a backup to Pogba? No. We are shopping a few levels above Matuidi's for a reason. We don't have any major quality in our MF. That's why we are a bit chit the last 3 years you know...odds at skybet for madrid dropped to 5/2 after the instagram post. now back at 3/1. nervous nannies who still think he will stay at juve can consider a punt at 6/1
Matuidi isn't world class.
Because a lot of panicking muppets have gone off and put big bets on him going to Madrid in the last few days, based on the tales AS and Tancredi have been spinning of Madrid hanging around in the shadows, just waiting to pounce if they sell James and Morata first
The likes of Fabregas, Gundogan or Vidal, and to an extent Ramsey, Gomes, Mario or Pjanic (well, maybe not world class). I understand some of these players have already moved on to new clubs this season, but you get the drift.
The top CB, top RB and backup RW?
Because you specifically said we could get all 4 for 100m pounds
So Higuin is confirmed. PogBonAgain?
This is gold
You just gotta love the investigative nature of new age muppets. I bet they enjoy this more than watching football.
Are you saying you actually enjoy watching football more than transfer window?
Why are you mentioning players which are clearly not available? The fact is that if we don't sign Pogba, all other available players are a big step down in quality.
A lot of people get very angry in here based one complete assumptions
Anyway, if Marotta mentioned us by name, and only us, I'd call that a reason to be optimistic.
Anyway, if Marotta mentioned us by name, and only us, I'd call that a reason to be optimistic.
Come to think about, the best thing about the last 3 seasons were the transfer windows.
What was the Instagram post? This thread moves so bloody fast!
145m would be ridiculous. If Juve gas a contract with Raiola can we not sue them and get the money back? Would be madness to just accept it and pay the money. Especially after thex signed Higuain they probably need our money and can't say no.
Well, some of our games last season were sleep inducing. Borefests. We were known to be the most boring team in the league.
So, for some, this transfer saga may be more interesting than the football, itself.
I don't see how we would have legal grounds to sue Juventus over paying Raiola's fee. That's between the agent and the selling club as stipulated in the contract.
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Dude, suing people is not easy. Most of the time it is tedious and the only winners are the lawyers.
Court action should be used only as the very last resort and don't ever assume you will win.
Lawyers are usually the winners as far as the courts are concerned.
tony would do. leave us enough money for a cb and a winger.
I like your post and the way you think. U clearly know your stuff.
I said the same thing a couple of days ago that the contract/agreement between Raiola/Pogba and Juventus isn't Uniteds problem. Woody shouldn't even touch that subject and frankly if Marotta tries to bring this problem into the negotiations we should just tell him that's not our biz. (a smile and a walk to the coffe table will do ;-)
The negotiation strategy that Juve is using is well known, pushing the deal sideways by demanding small adjustments for every step. A experienced negotiater will off course ignore such proposals by sticking to the original offer whenever the subject is on the table. By standing your ground you push the other part to find other solutions.
Off course without knowing I think that Woodward has giving Marotta a final all inclusive offer, let's say €125m. With Higuains fee in mind it's also fair to think that United will pay Juve in two installments, one up front and the second next year.
Should I guess then I think that Marotta tries to lowball Raiola (and in the end United) by asking him (and Pogba) to lower their demands in order to finalize the deal. Raiola then, off course, asking Woodward for help by offering more. Hopefully then our CEO tells Raiola that's this isn't our problem, with all due respect. Then the old arch enemies (Zlatan2Inter) Marotta and Raiola will drink and arm wrestle until they both fall asleep. (Next morning they are buddies again)
The positive news is that Juve bought Higuain. Whatever people say this deal is connected to the transfer of Pogba. Those who think or say differently probably hasn't a single clue about liquidity and cash flows.
In the end I think all parties will do their parts. To much money, prestige and goodwill (or badwill) involved. IMVHO this deal is finalized many many days ago, only show boating and political statements left.
Juve will off course then tell the old lady and the whole world they got a record fee. I fully expect them to exaggerate every single number who's available. Mino Raiola will smile and doing moonwalk all the way to the bank and Woody, my favorite all time Ed, will dance the Hula Hula song all night long. (Lionel Richie extended version)
Di Marzio just posted an update. Waiting for the English version.
I think the one where he said we say it all by saying nothing. Other than that there hasn't been any big news or rumours.. madrid speculation came ony from AS over the weekend and nobody carried the story
It may be the case that Juventus want us to up the offer for Pogba to enable them to cover Raiola's fee while still being left with what they think Pogba is worth, perhaps?
At the end of the day they're entitled to ask for whatever sum of money they like for a player that's under contract to them.
At the end of the day they're entitled to ask for whatever sum of money they like for a player that's under contract to them.
Griezmann? Mahrez seems available for less than that.
I'm not advocating not signing him. I'm just saying that if it falls through now it wont be an embarrassment. They play hardball over the agents fee we tell them where to go. It happens.
If we go on until deadline day and end up buying 'Fellaini for more than his buyout clause again' then that would be Embarrassing.
not unless you are Wenger
I am suspicious of Wenger. I think he has no intention of making any big signings.
To appease the fans, he makes statements that "we are interested in player x. We were interested in player y".
but notice, he signs very few expensive players. This is more down to budgets.
Only a few days ago, Arsenal were interested in Higuain.
And Vardy.
And right now Mahrez.
I genuinely believe that he has no interest in signing any big money players.
A meeting was held between Marotta and Raiola earlier today. The topic of the meeting was to finalize the last details for a conclusion to be found. We now wait/expect to find out the outcome of this meeting.
Getting closer, inch by inch