This transfer seems to be going nowhere fast.
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This is gold
You just gotta love the investigative nature of new age muppets. I bet they enjoy this more than watching football.
Posts like this are boring.
I think the quote just means that finishing the Higuain deal is the focus for Juv currently. Once everything is concluded they will focus on the Pogba transfer
Unproven player. Now I have seen it all.
And get 5 good years out of him? I'm fine with that. If Madrid want him at that time, then clearly Pogba is still a good player. We can ask for more.
Run by a juve fan as well. only merit that account has is that they are quick to relay the news/rumours, so we should really try and quote from the source and not his/her interpretation
It'll be done by Sunday, surely?!
Obviously I don't think that's the case.
I want Pogba, but I fear his next contract negotiations, with Real sniffing around for a bargain.
I can't help but feel that this boy is more trouble than he is worth.
I can't help but feel that this boy is more trouble than he is worth.
If we backed out now and signed some body else rather than giving in to undue demands then for me that's a sign of strength.
And for all of those about to shout at me I'm not saying pull out. I'm saying that pulling out wouldn't be a sign of weakness.
Yes, Sunday.
Then Monday.
Then Tuesday and so on.
It never ends.
Pogba is on holiday till early August, so I am now thinking that this saga may go on well into August.
glad they helped relax muppet nerves
All of the very best, young players are in the same boat these days. The modern day footballer rules the day, not the clubs or agents.
If Pogba or the next big thing demand moves, they'll get them. Just like Ronaldo did, just like Bale did.
The shit storm on here will be fecking biblical if this doesn't happen, don't get me wrong I'd like Pogba to join but the dark side of me would also like to see the meltdown and when this all blows over (for better or worse) I guess I'll kind of miss this thread because when I've had a cnut of a day in pop my head in here and some of the utter bollocks written just puts a smile on my gnarley old boat.
Keep it up kids, you're doing a great job.
Keep it up kids, you're doing a great job.
To be fair several other outlets (including footballitalia who is an aggregator and translator of Italian news) interpreted Beppe's comment's the same way.
Okay, lets say we pull out.
Who else is there who is gettable, who can make an impact, for £100M?
Would Madrid sell Bale? Would Bale want to join?
What about Muller - would that happen?
The problem is that we want to win trophies. We have the money, but we need to have the right players to get the job done. At present, we have players like Carrick and Bastian who are finishing their careers, in midfield. Morgan, who last season was invisible. Then we have wingers like Memphis and Lingard. That's our midfield and its pretty bad.
They were also massively Biast and swore blind Pogba wouldn't leave Juve. They aren't the best judge of character in this scenario.
So much of the blame over the agent fee seems to be falling on United for not paying it and/or Raiola for wanting it. But it's Juve are contracted to pay the 20% to Raiola, so they keep trying to up the required fee to cover it. Some papers keep saying that United has to work out the fee with Raiola, but if that were the case then Raiola wouldn't be reportedly meeting with Juve today. It really seems that Juve has been jerking us around, upping the fees every time we come close to agreeing. If we put together the various reports of the last week or so.....
United offer 100m Euros. Juve say it needs to be 120m.
United then offer 110m Euros + 10m bonuses. Juve says it needs to be 120m without bonuses.
United finally give in and offer 120m. Juve says, "Well, you agreed to that rather easily, so, umm, what we meant was 120m net to us after agent fees, so it's really 145m that you need pay."
United would seem to be rightly angered, and after getting yanked around like this, I wouldn't blame United for telling them to get lost. And maybe that is what it might take to conclude the deal one way or another. United may need to be truly willing to walk away in order to force Juve to decide if they can leave all that money on the table. If you're not willing to walk away from a deal, and the other side knows this, then you're going to get screwed on the price.
United offer 100m Euros. Juve say it needs to be 120m.
United then offer 110m Euros + 10m bonuses. Juve says it needs to be 120m without bonuses.
United finally give in and offer 120m. Juve says, "Well, you agreed to that rather easily, so, umm, what we meant was 120m net to us after agent fees, so it's really 145m that you need pay."
United would seem to be rightly angered, and after getting yanked around like this, I wouldn't blame United for telling them to get lost. And maybe that is what it might take to conclude the deal one way or another. United may need to be truly willing to walk away in order to force Juve to decide if they can leave all that money on the table. If you're not willing to walk away from a deal, and the other side knows this, then you're going to get screwed on the price.
Delaney is a shite talker too. All the above has been reported but by known bullshiters and he even contradicts himself like a the idiot he is. "Additional 20m not prohibitive" then then next thing he says are "United are reluctant to pay" Well which fecking one is it?
Would rather join Madrid. Only ones spouting that line have been Spanish league journos, Ballague, AS and Madrid's mouthpiece Marca
I fully expect you will see Utd getting linked with other midfielders over the next few days.
Premium Sport (MediaSet) are saying that Juve are moving for Witsel and accelerating the move within the next 24 to 48 hours as the Zenit president want to sell Witsel to Everton
Di Marzio said this morning that Witsel is a Juve target to replace Pogba
"Same situation" done deal for the last fortnight and Juve are spending the cash first. It's so bloody obvious.
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Delaney is not necessarily a shite talker - there are far worse.
There is nothing wrong with he's saying about the 20m - of course Utd have the means (i.e. not prohibitive) but dont necessarily want to pay it all solely. It doesnt need to be one or the other.
As for Madrid - if Madrid were willing to pay the money, i think most would agree he would be going there so its not a reach to suggest he would rather join them.
Why do people keep acting like this is at all true? This originated from Ballague which then AS and Marca ran with it, all Spanish league biased cnuts. Ballague was on tv and radio basically throwing his toys out of the parm because Madrid can't match what we will pay.
I can see that we feck up this deal and in 2years pogba moves to madrid in much smaller fee.
Which is the other way?
One target? You sure about that? The manager says otherwise.
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Oh right, yeah. That's what I think too. I must have misinterpreted your post. Sorry about that.
As long as Madrid pay the agent fee's I couldn't careless.
not unless you are Wenger
... poor sod couldnt sign an autograph right nowI'd have more respect for Ed if he pulled the plug on the deal now. All of this up to now does not make me think that Pogba really wants to come to us, and it'll just be hassle a few years down the line when he or his agent make noises to move to Madrid.
You dont know that. If it happens, great. If not then it wont have been for a lack of trying.
Not one person on here knows with any degree of certainty what will happen.
That applies to the media too. I'd wager that only Pogba, Raiola, Woodward, The Glazers, Moratti, Jose and Allegri are 100% in the know. Everyone else is just piecing stuff together or completely making up stories.
If Juve won't accept €120m and pay Raiola his share from that amount, then they can feck off.
There is a limit imo.
There is a limit imo.
This he is absolutely shite talking because it's stuff we've already seen and from people that are also shite talkers.
Yes there is. The 20m isn't prohibitive yet we are reluctant to pay it. You can't get really anymore contradictive than that other than that we are flatout refusing to pay it. If Juventus are gonna be cnuts about an agreement they made with Raiola and we really want him then there is no choice but to pay it.
If Pogba wanted to join Madrid as much as people are making it out to he would hand in his transfer request and tell Juventus or he would have told us that he wasn't interested in a move back to United.
ESPN won't know much before other journos, they have not been front runners at all during this saga.