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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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I expect the club to comply to my arbitrary deadlines.
 
Yeah sure let's do all this and give up. Move onto somebody well below his level and do it all again next year :wenger:

That's what I don't understand with some posters. I'm still skeptical that this will happen, but I realize that if Pogba is truly available, we simply must pay whatever it takes, or we'll be settling for a midfielder way below his level. There's literally nobody that's available close to Pogba's level or potential.
 
It's still stuck on agent fee. I genuinely think there's a chance the deal is off.
If we were willing to pay the agent fee, why does it take so long since there's no chance Raiola giving up his money and Juve paying it for us?
If woodward doesn't agree to pay it by this weekend, I think we will just give up and pogba will stay at Turin.
 
Journalists get away with murder. It is unacceptable. I cannot STAND it! Well OK, I should say sport journalists. There is a code of conduct, where readers have a right to expect accuracy and fairness.
We are bound by these rules. If I make an error in my reports then my editor will come down on me like a ton of bricks, because the publication can be sued.
So yes, I'm a journalist as well. And I despise these clickbaiters, destroying decades of trust established through blood and tears.
Thing is, most journos just report what they're told, some bullshit, some genuine real info. Thats why some a hit and miss, some getting more right than they do wrong. Some people might say it's just guesswork, but you can be sure some of the more reputable journos do have their sources within clubs, and some papers are really close to clubs too and are used as a clubs mouthpiece (Real and Marca for example).

Then you get the absolute utter wankstains such and Indykaila who will lie about anything and everything in order to get clicks. More clicks, more money. People like him, and accounts like utdreport who do use real journos info but twist it and turn it and sometimes add their own little bits to make things sound worse or better are definitely to be avoided
 
Latest summary from Sportwitness, looks promising:

This morning, we brought you the latest update on the Paul Pogba transfer deal from Spain as Marca claimed the deal was ‘paralysed’.

Our hunch on that was that this was a Marca tactic to try and get Real Madrid fans’ hopes up that a deal could still be possible, because that’s what Marca do.


In Italy, the story is very different, and it seems most newspapers still expect the deal to be done soon.

Corriere on Tuesday claim that Paul Pogba’s days at Juventus are ‘numbered’, suggesting that it’s all but done.

There was a lot of fuss regarding the player’s most recent Instagram picture of him and Mino Raiola in a pool in Miami having a good laugh with a cryptic caption, but that doesn’t worry Corriere one bit.

They state that the two clubs met yesterday and spoke about the transfer, and Corriere’s final line regarding Pogba is ‘it won’t take long for the deal to be announced’.

Our bottom line this morning was that a deal was most likely sorted and all parties were just waiting for the player’s holidays to end before announcing, which seems to be the general belief in Italy too.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/man-united-deal-wont-take-long-announced-players-days-club-numbered/?
 
Raiola's agreement with Juve when pogba signed was that he would get 20% of the future transfer fee or something simular. Looks like if what the journos say is true (I'm sceptical) that they want to clear €120 without his fee. So it's Juve trying to renegotiate on a previous agreement with Raiola.
That would require a €150m transfer fee.
 
It's clearly just Raiola's fee holding this deal up.. But it's hardly his fault, if there was a clause in his Juve contract, then they should just pay the man!

Although we'll end up paying it, or at least coming to some kind of 50/50 agreement.
 
It's clearly just Raiola's fee holding this deal up.. But it's hardly his fault, if there was a clause in his Juve contract, then they should just pay the man!

Although we'll end up paying it, or at least coming to some kind of 50/50 agreement.

I did suggest that splitting the difference would be a likely outcome and/or acceptable resolution in a previous post.
 
It's clearly just Raiola's fee holding this deal up.. But it's hardly his fault, if there was a clause in his Juve contract, then they should just pay the man!

Although we'll end up paying it, or at least coming to some kind of 50/50 agreement.

The problem with the 50/50 agreement is that Raiola is due a fee for this transfer too.
 
For the money involved here, there probably isn't a player in the world we couldn't get, save Messi and Maybe Ronaldo.

Yes, but the difference is, those players aren't available. They are already at top tier clubs, and are getting paid as highly as we'd offer them.
 
Was hoping that Pogba's move would break down due to the fee that is being mentioned, but Raiola has Woody bent over all ready to go, he will get his one way or the other.
 
Yes, but the difference is, those players aren't available. They are already at top tier clubs, and are getting paid as highly as we'd offer them.

Exactly. And we are getting Pogba. And we need less that 600 posts to break the Vidal thread record. What's there not to like? Saving my last today's post in case Pogba signs today. :wenger:
 
For the money involved here, there probably isn't a player in the world we couldn't get, save Messi and Maybe Ronaldo.
We wouldn't get Neymar either. Barca themselves spent close to 100 million or more in total (incl 'agent' fees to beymar's dad) to get him.
 
Oh great!

What an utter waste of time - for me. I was trying to do the same thing, going through all the pages in this thread! I got to page 136.
My goal was to create a timeline, just to show how futile it is to trust journalists.

Here's how far I got. Thank you Independent for doing the work and rendering my project as pointless as the articles I list:

19 May – Duncan Castles – Utd make firm offer for Pogba
30 May – Jack de Menezes – Pogba put up for sale
2 June – The Sun – Utd offer £60mil for Pogba
4 June – James Robson – City drop out of race
7 June – Ken Browne – Madrid wants Pogba
8 June – Mark Ogden – City drops interest. Utd in pole position
8 June – Daniel Taylor – City drops interest
8 June – Sky Sports – City drops interest
9 June – Danny Penza – Moratta: Pogba not leaving this summer
9 June – La Gazetta dello Sport – Madrid will offer €120mil
9 June – Pete Jensen – Madrid will offer Isco plus cash
9 June – ESPN FC – Utd makes contact
10 June – Di Marzio – Madrid make Raiola an offer
10 June – Di Marzio – Utd take “small step” towards signing Pogba
10 June – AS – Utd offer €100mil, Juve wants €120mil
10 June – Marca – Madrid readies €120mil offer
20 June – ESPN FC – Madrid opens talks with Pogba
20 June – Marca – Juventus set price of €160mil
25 June – Balague – Madrid don’t want to pay €25mil to Raiola
25 June – The Sun – Utd meets “huge” asking price
25 June – James Ducker – Mourinho in talks to sign Pogba
26 June – Di Marzio – Utd meet with Pogba with big offer
27 June – Di Marzio – Juventus don’t want to sell
27 June – ESPN FC – Utd keen on £100mil Pogba
29 June – Samuel Luckhurst – Pogba prefers Madrid
29 June – L’ Equipe – Utd to make Pogba offer next week
30 June – Sport Witness – Utd make substantial offer
30 June – Nerozzi – Utd approach Juve
30 June – L’Equipe – Utd open discussion with Juve
30 June – Utdreport – Pogba to cost Utd £65mil
30 June – Mark Ogden – Utd step up pursuit
30 June – Telegraph – Pogba could join Mourinho
1 July – Telegraph – Utd have offered £80mil
1 July – Sky Italia – Pogba’s dad says son prefers Madrid
2 July - Duncan Castles – Pogba is Mourinho’s priority
2 July – The Sun – Pogba would rather join Madrid, Barca or City
2 July – Daily Mail – Pogba to become world’s first £100mil player
3 July – AS – Utd offer €119mil
3 July – Sport Bible – Pogba unfollows Juventus on Twitter
3 July – Richard Keys – Utd got Pogba, despite him wanting Barca
4 July – Daily Mail – Pogba close to joining UTd for more than £80mil
4 July – John Richardson – Pogba moving to Utd for £80mil
5 July – Marca – Madrid prefers Gomes over Pogba
5 July – Sky Sports – Utd interested in signing Pogba
5 July – United Report – Pogba follows Depay, Lingard and Januzaj on Instagram
5 July – Juve FC – Juventus tells Raiola they won’t sell
6 July - Samuel Luckhurst – Utd confident of getting Pogba
6 July – The Sun – Utd ready to re-sign Pogba for £100mil
6 July – The Mirror – Utd to bid £100mil
6 July – Daily Mail – Utd ready to offer £100mil
7 July – Di Marzio – Agreement reached with Pogba
7 July – Tancredi Palmeri – Utd reach agreement with Pogba and will bid €120mil
:lol:

That is by far the saddest thing I've seen in this thread.

And that's saying something.
 
Stop being a greedy cnut, Riola, you fat little troll.

It is not Raiola in the wrong here. Those stingy pasta tossing bambinos at Juve stole him from us with promises to Raiola about the 20%, so then they better pay up.
 
There's plenty.
Who? Save maybe Neymar, like @Kevin says.

Yes, but the difference is, those players aren't available. They are already at top tier clubs, and are getting paid as highly as we'd offer them.

All players are available for the right price. If the club are keen on the money offered by another club they will most likely get their way. Like with di Maria for example.

You're talking as if we can walk into any club and just take anyone we want.

No, of course we can't. I'm saying there aren't many players who's club wouldnt accept an offer of the size we're now making for Pogba.
 
And who exactly do you have in mind?

Everyone except the obvious two and Neymar.

I'm not saying there's a better alternative out there, just that he isn't the only one we could get for this kind of money. I'm more than happy with Pogba coming, I don't see how we could do any better.
 
Stop being a greedy cnut, Riola, you fat little troll.

Hang on, the man's doing his job. If it's in black and white what he's owed as per the terms of the previous contract Juve should honour that, it's pretty poor business etiquette. Raiola should hold them to account.

Instead, they are using it as part of a negotiation tactic with us and seemingly won't agree to finalise the deal without Raiola's fee's being at least part funded. It will not stand them in good stead for the future if they are known to renege on contracts they sign or use below the belt tactics to weasel out of it. Just a few points of note:

1) Raiola isn't going to throw away his commission easily, the last thing he wants is for the deal to go south
2) Rhetoric out of both United and Juve camps suggest that this deal is close to completion
3) Reputable media outlets are reporting the deal as being all but completed
4) There are plenty of reasons as to why this move makes sense for Pogba

The missing bit of info for me is whether or not Juve can afford all the alleged signings/fees for their incoming players (Higuain) without the Pogba money? If they can't then this deal is sure to complete sooner or later, regardless of who throws their toys out of the pram the furthest.
 
Wait, so Raoila negotiated a fee with Juve (based on future transfer fee) for helping them to steal Pogba from us and now they want us to pay that fee???

They must think Woodward was born yesterday!
 
as a point of principle we should definately not pay a cent more than the agreed price with Juve....

It would sum up our money management over the last couple of years if we ended up paying agent fees we arent responsible for

Its not that simple. Juve probably told us they want 100m for Pogba. We then said okay sure, then Juve reminded us that what that actually means is we have to pay Mino 20% cut before the price. Which is obviosuly cheeky of them.

They have a price that they want which excluded Minos share. When in reality their prices would normally include his share.
 
Juve have apparently had a bid for Gabigol accepted now as well. These endless signings from Juve must mean that Pogba is gone. Otherwise they have some enormous war chest stashed away somewhere that no-one knows about.
 
:lol:

That is by far the saddest thing I've seen in this thread.

And that's saying something.
Yeah. It's very, very sad.

The Independent scooped me.

As for wasting my time creating this very apt case study, it is mine to waste after all. BTW, feel free to peruse my monumental fail!

EDIT: And that is it for my 5 posts a day. Perhaps I will just reply to people by editing this post into eternity? Hehe... :p
 
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Yeah. It's very, very sad.

The Independent scooped me.

As for wasting my time creating this very apt case study, it is mine to waste after all. BTW, feel free to peruse my monumental fail!

You don't have to compile long lists of Pogba stories. We still like you.
 
Ok I have just watched the Italian Sky Sports woman give info on the situation via UK Sky Sports.

This is all done. She even had exact wages etc. It literally is just waiting for us to pay Raiola's €20m (not 25 like some are reporting.)

As soon as either us or Juve pay it, Pog is ours.

I can't see Jose letting them f**k this up over a few quid. We would probably be looking at selling a fair few players as well.

Pogba is as good as done for me.
 
Wait, so Raoila negotiated a fee with Juve (based on future transfer fee) for helping them to steal Pogba from us and now they want us to pay that fee???

They must think Woodward was born yesterday!
Yes but it's probably not even true, just journos looking for stories about how tough Juve have been in negotiations to appease their fans and filling time/headlines before it is announced.