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Shakesey said:
Oh great!

What an utter waste of time - for me. I was trying to do the same thing, going through all the pages in this thread! I got to page 136.
My goal was to create a timeline, just to show how futile it is to trust journalists.

Here's how far I got. Thank you Independent for doing the work and rendering my project as pointless as the articles I list:

19 May – Duncan Castles – Utd make firm offer for Pogba
30 May – Jack de Menezes – Pogba put up for sale
2 June – The Sun – Utd offer £60mil for Pogba
4 June – James Robson – City drop out of race
7 June – Ken Browne – Madrid wants Pogba
8 June – Mark Ogden – City drops interest. Utd in pole position
8 June – Daniel Taylor – City drops interest
8 June – Sky Sports – City drops interest
9 June – Danny Penza – Moratta: Pogba not leaving this summer
9 June – La Gazetta dello Sport – Madrid will offer €120mil
9 June – Pete Jensen – Madrid will offer Isco plus cash
9 June – ESPN FC – Utd makes contact
10 June – Di Marzio – Madrid make Raiola an offer
10 June – Di Marzio – Utd take “small step” towards signing Pogba
10 June – AS – Utd offer €100mil, Juve wants €120mil
10 June – Marca – Madrid readies €120mil offer
20 June – ESPN FC – Madrid opens talks with Pogba
20 June – Marca – Juventus set price of €160mil
25 June – Balague – Madrid don’t want to pay €25mil to Raiola
25 June – The Sun – Utd meets “huge” asking price
25 June – James Ducker – Mourinho in talks to sign Pogba
26 June – Di Marzio – Utd meet with Pogba with big offer
27 June – Di Marzio – Juventus don’t want to sell
27 June – ESPN FC – Utd keen on £100mil Pogba
29 June – Samuel Luckhurst – Pogba prefers Madrid
29 June – L’ Equipe – Utd to make Pogba offer next week
30 June – Sport Witness – Utd make substantial offer
30 June – Nerozzi – Utd approach Juve
30 June – L’Equipe – Utd open discussion with Juve
30 June – Utdreport – Pogba to cost Utd £65mil
30 June – Mark Ogden – Utd step up pursuit
30 June – Telegraph – Pogba could join Mourinho
1 July – Telegraph – Utd have offered £80mil
1 July – Sky Italia – Pogba’s dad says son prefers Madrid
2 July - Duncan Castles – Pogba is Mourinho’s priority
2 July – The Sun – Pogba would rather join Madrid, Barca or City
2 July – Daily Mail – Pogba to become world’s first £100mil player
3 July – AS – Utd offer €119mil
3 July – Sport Bible – Pogba unfollows Juventus on Twitter
3 July – Richard Keys – Utd got Pogba, despite him wanting Barca
4 July – Daily Mail – Pogba close to joining UTd for more than £80mil
4 July – John Richardson – Pogba moving to Utd for £80mil
5 July – Marca – Madrid prefers Gomes over Pogba
5 July – Sky Sports – Utd interested in signing Pogba
5 July – United Report – Pogba follows Depay, Lingard and Januzaj on Instagram
5 July – Juve FC – Juventus tells Raiola they won’t sell
6 July - Samuel Luckhurst – Utd confident of getting Pogba
6 July – The Sun – Utd ready to re-sign Pogba for £100mil
6 July – The Mirror – Utd to bid £100mil
6 July – Daily Mail – Utd ready to offer £100mil
7 July – Di Marzio – Agreement reached with Pogba
7 July – Tancredi Palmeri – Utd reach agreement with Pogba and will bid €120mil
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Amazing
 
Sky say that we and Juventus are not willing to pay Raiola which is why negotiations have stalled.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Is it just me or does Di Marzio just repeat the same thing over and over in a slightly different way?

Seems every update is no real update. Just saying it's close but leaves himself a gap in case it goes balls up
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If someone with no life, quite possibly me, put enough time aside then the person can list all the reports. Certain patterns such as the one you mentioned will become clearer. I'm convinced that the standing of some journos are inflated.
We read a hundred reports and forget about them soon after. Information overload and selective memory plays a massive role in our perceptions.
 
Stretch said:
And then it seems Juve are on the brink of finalising the Higuain deal today. Pogba's coming home lads. :drool:



+++ #Juventus today will be deposited into the Football League contract by Gonzalo #Higuain- @tvdellosport
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Everyone saying the Higuain deal isn't connected to Pogba joining us.

I have a feeling that Juve might want to keep Pog AND spunk loads of cash on new players to really go for the CL.
 
Red Bug said:
Everyone saying the Higuain deal isn't connected to Pogba joining us.

I have a feeling that Juve might want to keep Pog AND spunk loads of cash on new players to really go for the CL.
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*not dependent. They don't need pogba cash to actually do the deal, but as GdS reported probably close to a week ago now, both are connected.
 
Shakesey said:
Oh great!

What an utter waste of time - for me. I was trying to do the same thing, going through all the pages in this thread! I got to page 136.
My goal was to create a timeline, just to show how futile it is to trust journalists.

Here's how far I got. Thank you Independent for doing the work and rendering my project as pointless as the articles I list:

19 May – Duncan Castles – Utd make firm offer for Pogba
30 May – Jack de Menezes – Pogba put up for sale
2 June – The Sun – Utd offer £60mil for Pogba
4 June – James Robson – City drop out of race
7 June – Ken Browne – Madrid wants Pogba
8 June – Mark Ogden – City drops interest. Utd in pole position
8 June – Daniel Taylor – City drops interest
8 June – Sky Sports – City drops interest
9 June – Danny Penza – Moratta: Pogba not leaving this summer
9 June – La Gazetta dello Sport – Madrid will offer €120mil
9 June – Pete Jensen – Madrid will offer Isco plus cash
9 June – ESPN FC – Utd makes contact
10 June – Di Marzio – Madrid make Raiola an offer
10 June – Di Marzio – Utd take “small step” towards signing Pogba
10 June – AS – Utd offer €100mil, Juve wants €120mil
10 June – Marca – Madrid readies €120mil offer
20 June – ESPN FC – Madrid opens talks with Pogba
20 June – Marca – Juventus set price of €160mil
25 June – Balague – Madrid don’t want to pay €25mil to Raiola
25 June – The Sun – Utd meets “huge” asking price
25 June – James Ducker – Mourinho in talks to sign Pogba
26 June – Di Marzio – Utd meet with Pogba with big offer
27 June – Di Marzio – Juventus don’t want to sell
27 June – ESPN FC – Utd keen on £100mil Pogba
29 June – Samuel Luckhurst – Pogba prefers Madrid
29 June – L’ Equipe – Utd to make Pogba offer next week
30 June – Sport Witness – Utd make substantial offer
30 June – Nerozzi – Utd approach Juve
30 June – L’Equipe – Utd open discussion with Juve
30 June – Utdreport – Pogba to cost Utd £65mil
30 June – Mark Ogden – Utd step up pursuit
30 June – Telegraph – Pogba could join Mourinho
1 July – Telegraph – Utd have offered £80mil
1 July – Sky Italia – Pogba’s dad says son prefers Madrid
2 July - Duncan Castles – Pogba is Mourinho’s priority
2 July – The Sun – Pogba would rather join Madrid, Barca or City
2 July – Daily Mail – Pogba to become world’s first £100mil player
3 July – AS – Utd offer €119mil
3 July – Sport Bible – Pogba unfollows Juventus on Twitter
3 July – Richard Keys – Utd got Pogba, despite him wanting Barca
4 July – Daily Mail – Pogba close to joining UTd for more than £80mil
4 July – John Richardson – Pogba moving to Utd for £80mil
5 July – Marca – Madrid prefers Gomes over Pogba
5 July – Sky Sports – Utd interested in signing Pogba
5 July – United Report – Pogba follows Depay, Lingard and Januzaj on Instagram
5 July – Juve FC – Juventus tells Raiola they won’t sell
6 July - Samuel Luckhurst – Utd confident of getting Pogba
6 July – The Sun – Utd ready to re-sign Pogba for £100mil
6 July – The Mirror – Utd to bid £100mil
6 July – Daily Mail – Utd ready to offer £100mil
7 July – Di Marzio – Agreement reached with Pogba
7 July – Tancredi Palmeri – Utd reach agreement with Pogba and will bid €120mil
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Excellent work muppet!
 
WPMUFC said:
*not dependent. They don't need pogba cash to actually do the deal, but as GdS reported probably close to a week ago now, both are connected.
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What's the difference though? Basically Juve CAN keep Pogba AND buy Higuain if they wanted to, no?
 
Jacky Quacky said:
Sky say that we and Juventus are not willing to pay Raiola which is why negotiations have stalled.
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I wonder what the rules are regarding agent fees. It's clear from what you've said that Juve and United have agreed terms, and Pogba's personal terms have been agreed... so if all that's in the bag can't we just tell Raiola to piss off? Or will he need paying (ludicrously) for the work he's done in negotiating?

I bloody hate agents.
 
Bluemoon quoted this satirical post over there about Ehsanul and took it as Pogba not coming :lol:

Just a word from ensahul, he cant get online. Apparently twitter account called datguy1989 claims Perez and Raiola conducted a deal in Madrid and had the best white wine to celebrate. Woody heard about it in the plane to Miami and was very unhappy.
Make of it what you
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J-Stander said:
We definitely won't be a laughing stock for not paying 25m to an agent.
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Yeah pretty much this. I'd love to see Pogba strut his stuff for us this coming season but I also wouldn't blame Woodward whatsoever if he told Juventus to stuff it at this point either. I've no issue at all with Raiola wanting his pound of flesh, he's earnt it as far as I'm concerned in getting Juventus a fecking bargain in the first place. Juve bumping up the price so that we effectively end up paying Raiola's fee for taking him away from us would just be ridiculous.
 


Allegri grilled on Pogba price. Laughs. 'That’s what it is, I don’t assign prices to players. Each player has a value some low, some high.'

HE Speaks! :lol:
 
Creepy said:
The record Vidal transfer thread is going to be shattered, we haven't even had an announcement yet and the celebration/meltdown that will follow. It's going to be biblical! :drool:
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Celebration is going to be in the different thread if it'll happen.
 
It's funny isn't it. The press don't have a clue what's going on. Pogba and Raiola are probably sitting there laughing at all the rumours, hence his latest instagram post. Ibra did the same trick, he said he would announce it when he's good and ready.

I feel once the Higuain deal is done then we will get the ball rolling. All these "negotiations" that are supposed to be happening IMO are done already, they are just discussing when to announce the deal.
 
WPMUFC said:


Allegri grilled on Pogba price. Laughs. 'That’s what it is, I don’t assign prices to players. Each player has a value some low, some high.'

HE Speaks! :lol:
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:drool: If you weren't convinced it's done then this should get your muppet juices flowing. I'm at half mast.
 
WPMUFC said:


Allegri grilled on Pogba price. Laughs. 'That’s what it is, I don’t assign prices to players. Each player has a value some low, some high.'

HE Speaks! :lol:
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Once Pogba is done we should ask him what the value of Bonucci is.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I dont know how this works, who normally pays , the buying or selling club ? , would it not be better to split any fee?
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Juve is supposed to pay. This is not the 'normal' agent fee. It's a clause in Pogba's Juve contract. Raiola and Pogba are entitled to 20% of any transfer fee for him. It's normal for players who sign on a free to have such a clause. The issue here is that the transfer fee is massive which means the 20% is massive and which is why Juve don't want to pay it out of their cut. They've asked United to pay for it if we're that desperate which I believe we are.
 
It's mad to think we had him, Lingard and Morrison at the same time and we only managed to keep a hold of Lingard for various reasons.

I'd love it if we could get Morrison back ad have his head screwed on. It'll never happen.
 
RDCR07 said:
The buying club is paying the agent. If you want the selling club to pay half then the transfer fees will go up to compensate.
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I figured it would be this way normally. Though this sounds like a pre-existing agreement, possibly when Pogba was first signed from us, that the agent would get 20% of any future transfer fee. If the reports are true (big if) then it sounds like Juve are just refusing to pay what they originally agreed to.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
or more like he has seen euros before his eyes and sees a huge payday.
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Raiola's agreement with Juve when pogba signed was that he would get 20% of the future transfer fee or something simular. Looks like if what the journos say is true (I'm sceptical) that they want to clear €120 without his fee. So it's Juve trying to renegotiate on a previous agreement with Raiola.
 
Stretch said:
Juve is supposed to pay. This is not the 'normal' agent fee. It's a clause in Pogba's Juve contract. Raiola and Pogba are entitled to 20% of any transfer fee for him. It's normal for players who sign on a free to have such a clause. The issue here is that the transfer fee is massive which means the 20% is massive and which is why Juve don't want to pay it out of their cut. They've asked United to pay for it if we're that desperate which I believe we are.
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Was just about to post this, it's not just his fee it's a%
 
RDCR07 said:
Its different if you have a clause that says when a player is sold then the selling club has to pay % of the fees to the player. But usually when a club signs a player, its the buying club that pays any agent fees.
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Yep which is why I said this not the 'normal' agent fee. It's not a signing on bonus per se.
 
as a point of principle we should definately not pay a cent more than the agreed price with Juve....

It would sum up our money management over the last couple of years if we ended up paying agent fees we arent responsible for
 
ChrisNelson said:
As funny as I find this thread, and I will keep returning to it, I have never once believed anything I hear about Manchester United until the club confirm it. Once I read on our Twitter feed that he's signed I'll believe it, until then everything is conjecture. How else can you treat it when the story changes every day depending on who you read/ listen to?!
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Journalists get away with murder. It is unacceptable. I cannot STAND it! Well OK, I should say sport journalists. There is a code of conduct, where readers have a right to expect accuracy and fairness.
We are bound by these rules. If I make an error in my reports then my editor will come down on me like a ton of bricks, because the publication can be sued.
So yes, I'm a journalist as well. And I despise these clickbaiters, destroying decades of trust established through blood and tears.
 
JustAFan said:
End of the week or time to get moving on the 2nd and 3rd choice targets.
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Yeah sure let's do all this and give up. Move onto somebody well below his level and do it all again next year :wenger:
 
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