Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies

Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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That was a pre-gone conclusion. Even without Higuain and Pogba, Juventus would have walked the league.

Yeah. They do have a very very good team. Dybala is going to be an absolute star. Their transfer dealings are solid each year even when they lose good players.
 
Higuain having a medical in Madrid.... Pogba can just go do his with the Dolphins while in Miami :drool:

Random segue, but this kinda fits (at least from my somewhat warped perspective)...

 
Getting more optimistic about pogba joining. Surely it means we can play a bit of hard ball over the agent fee now there spending big on Higuain. Proper muppet here went from despair to joy in a few hours.
 
Di Marzio has been copping crap from a few select posters on here because of the Gomes stuff up. Even though Romano posted it on twitter, Di Marzio was the first to break Higuain to Juve today.
Im confused. If he was the first to break the story then how is he crap?
 
Getting more optimistic about pogba joining. Surely it means we can play a bit of hard ball over the agent fee now there spending big on Higuain. Proper muppet here went from despair to joy in a few hours.
The deals done if they have spent the money
 
Di Marzio has been copping crap from a few select posters on here because of the Gomes stuff up. Even though Romano posted it on twitter, Di Marzio was the first to break Higuain to Juve today.

Haven't seen that. His credibility is higher than any other journo.
 
They dropped 30-35m on Pjanic and the Morata deal only covers that. They are going to sell players and maybe make another 30m. If they have a budget of around 40-50m every year could they actually afford Higuain without losing Pogba? Just trying to do the math here to see if the numbers add up.
 
Some explanation maybe on the player amortization. The 94m or even the 47m don't matter, it's all accounting related, not liquidity or cash flows.

http://thesetpieces.com/features/transfer-window-myth-busting/

To be fair it doesn't make much difference how the clubs balances the books. Regardless of Pogba or other deals are structured for 3-4 years ahead, most past deals are structured the same. In the same way Dybala sale is accounted for and so forth.

It's not like Juve will lack liquidity it just stretches out their budget and increases their debt so the would need to sell assets of at least 50m or so to balance the books.

They would need to replace Buffon as well probably next year.
 
Di Marzio has been copping crap from a few select posters ...

It's a long thread so some people have missed this, but according to some people, Di Marzio isn't particularly accurate in his news stories. Even though, he actually is.
 
They dropped 30-35m on Pjanic and the Morata deal only covers that. They are going to sell players and maybe make another 30m. If they have a budget of around 40-50m every year could they actually afford Higuain without losing Pogba? Just trying to do the math here to see if the numbers add up.
They've spent a net of 40m euros this summer but the Pogba deal would make it 16m net
 
They dropped 30-35m on Pjanic and the Morata deal only covers that. They are going to sell players and maybe make another 30m. If they have a budget of around 40-50m every year could they actually afford Higuain without losing Pogba? Just trying to do the math here to see if the numbers add up.

Gotta keep in mind wages. Also who are they going to sell?
 
Juve fans must be a bit rattled about this. Losing one of their best players and spending ludicrous amounts of money on Higuain - who's 29. They'll be praying he continues his Napoli form.
 
Juve fans must be a bit rattled about this. Losing one of their best players and spending ludicrous amounts of money on Higuain - who's 29. They'll be praying he continues his Napoli form.

That "hash" guy whose been translating a lot of stuff for the english audience (Juve fan), thinks pogba is gone now.
 
We don't have unlimited funds. 100m spent here means 100m less to be spent elsewhere.
Have you not seen the state of our midfield? If the money is to be spent anywhere, it has to be the midfield. The defence is in relatively good shape by comparison and we certainly don't have to spend £100m on defensive reinforcements.
 
To be fair it doesn't make much difference how the clubs balances the books. Regardless of Pogba or other deals are structured for 3-4 years ahead, most past deals are structured the same. In the same way Dybala sale is accounted for and so forth.

It's not like Juve will lack liquidity it just stretches out their budget and increases their debt so the would need to sell assets of at least 50m or so to balance the books.

They would need to replace Buffon as well probably next year.
Yeah that was my point. The fees are not huge enough once amortized to automatically force Juventus to look for a buyer for Pogba. Now I still believe it's a good news but more from a "announcements" standpoint. Maybe now we can announce Pogba now that they bought a big caliber?
 
Gotta keep in mind wages. Also who are they going to sell?
Wages are a good point but their wage structure seems to be decent because Pogba was on 4.5m Euros yearly iirc and he was their highest paid player. So I think they would be okay paying another big player.
 
Deal won't happen anymore, I've heard that Higuain was bought to keep Pogba happy after Tevez leaving and Morata he wasn't happy with the club.

buzzinga, I made it up to keep the muppets guessing, I want Pogba at United, please sign
 
Yeah that was my point. The fees are not huge enough once amortized to automatically force Juventus to look for a buyer for Pogba. Now I still believe it's a good news but more from a "announcements" standpoint. Maybe now we can announce Pogba now that they bought a big caliber?
Well I don't see why they would rush tho. Especially with Higuain. Sure there are other parties interested but I doubt any of them(especially Arsenal) would pay the release clause. Yet they do just that.

I can understand if they look to buy some players before the Pogba sale kicks in and basically put selling clubs in favorable position in getting more with Juve having money to spend, but that Higuain fee is just ridiculous.
 
He even said it himself. His breaking point was Sir Alex going on and on about how good a talent Pogba is and then bringing Scholes out of retirement. There was also the case with playing fullbacks ahead of him in the league. I would have left if a manager showed that kind of lack of trust in me. I think at some point Sir Alex stopped caring about the long term future of the club and just wanted to get one on Manchester City before he retired.

Because he said so multiple times later? He wanted to play. SAF chose to play Rafael over him and later brought back Scholes who was retired. It's not like he left United for money. He was on the same wage he was on at United. The only difference seems to be that he got chances to play.

Do you know the sort of players who'd "lay for United"? They're currently mostly plying their trade in the lower leagues.

Some of you lot live in a fantasy world.

I truly want to play for United.

If we do re-sign him I hope all of ye are proved right and I'm proved wrong. Just seems to me he isn't all that bothered about playing for United. If he was he wouldn't have left in the first place. After all the only players ahead of him in the pecking order were a 35 year old asthmatic and a Brazillian fullback. If he was as great as you were all making out he would have been first choice within 12 months. Seems like a mercenary Cnut to me. As I say I hope I'm proved wrong.
 
Wages are a good point but their wage structure seems to be decent because Pogba was on 4.5m Euros yearly iirc and he was their highest paid player. So I think they would be okay paying another big player.
That's before taxes mate. Taxes in Italy and UK are approximately the same so you need to add around 40% to that 4.5m euros.
 
Well I don't see why they would rush tho. Especially with Higuain. Sure there are other parties interested but I doubt any of them(especially Arsenal) would pay the release clause. Yet they do just that.

I can understand if they look to buy some players before the Pogba sale kicks in and basically put selling clubs in favorable position in getting more with Juve having money to spend, but that Higuain fee is just ridiculous.
I am not certain, but I think the "deadline" for the release clause of Higuain was the end of July this year. I'm not really sure that has any legal value though so yeah j agree with you, it's all very confusing.
 
July 18th...

(Napoli) De Laurentiis: "Juve won't pay the release clause. They have class. They will become extremely unlikeable if they sign Higuain"

(Juve) Marotta: "There are no negotiations for Higuain. The discussion is closed for now. We won't pay the release clause"
 
July 18th...

(Napoli) De Laurentiis: "Juve won't pay the release clause. They have class. They will become extremely unlikeable if they sign Higuain"

(Juve) Marotta: "There are no negotiations for Higuain. The discussion is closed for now. We won't pay the release clause"

Further proves that Marotta talks shite constantly. Serial liar.
 
If we do re-sign him I hope all of ye are proved right and I'm proved wrong. Just seems to me he isn't all that bothered about playing for United. If he was he wouldn't have left in the first place. After all the only players ahead of him in the pecking order were a 35 year old asthmatic and a Brazillian fullback. If he was as great as you were all making out he would have been first choice within 12 months. Seems like a mercenary Cnut to me. As I say I hope I'm proved wrong.
Stop looking at this from a United fan POV. Put yourself in the players' shoes. He is a professional. He has a window to earn as much as he can. He asked for money and playing time. We couldnt give him either and youre calling him a mercenary cnut? We were stupid to run down his contract to the last 6-12 months when we knew what potential he had.
 
If we do re-sign him I hope all of ye are proved right and I'm proved wrong. Just seems to me he isn't all that bothered about playing for United. If he was he wouldn't have left in the first place. After all the only players ahead of him in the pecking order were a 35 year old asthmatic and a Brazillian fullback. If he was as great as you were all making out he would have been first choice within 12 months. Seems like a mercenary Cnut to me. As I say I hope I'm proved wrong.

You don't know the narrative if you're saying that.

Raiola at the time asked for his client (Pogba) to get guaranteed playing time, as he wasn't getting playing time under SAF. He was in the first team and SAF kept saying "soon / you're nearly there" and Pogba in his head was like "What does soon mean?" because the opportunity was never given.

So after Pogba and Raiola asked SAF for guaranteed games per season SAF said "I don't even give Rio, Vidic, Scholes guaranteed game time, so I won't for a youth player" along those lines. Then a game where Rafael was in the midfield after an injury crisis Pogba effectively said f-this and signed for Juve.

He did want to play for United he just felt United didn't want him to play for them.