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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Is the consensus that Juve have only rejected the first offer as a way of saving faces and making it seem like they've done everything in their power to keep Pogba?
It sure seems strange that journos report that we are going to make an offer which is going to be rejected - before the bid has even been placed. If that's not the case, how can we be sure that they will accept the next bid - and that United are even willing to pay the supposed asking price?
Like I said before, everyone rejects the first offer because they are lowballed. Its how an offer starts. If you are willing to pay 120m for him you dont start the bidding at 120m. Start lower and make your way up.
 
I can't wait for him to prove all the doubters wrong when he scores one and assists two against West Brom or Cheltenham in the league cup.
 
What is his best position and most importantly can France create the role that he has with Juventus without Juventus's players? The answer is no, Pogba needs to adapt and at the moment he can't. Neymar, Ronaldo or Bale don't play in their best positions for their country but no one blame the manager because we all know that it's not really possible without damaging the teams.
Slightly off topic but that's why international matches are rarely entertaining. At clubs you build a side transferring players to fit a system. International managers have to try get the best out of the best players they have. Griezmann is France's obvious best player and has so they make a system to get the most out him and if that means sacrificing others and playing Pogba in front of the back four then so be it. They don't play in the same position but it would compromise the balance. I don't think he played to bad there but it just wasn't exciting. If Pogba had played at hus best earlier in the tournament then maybe they would have played him his preferred position and push Griezmann into a different position. I think the problem when building a system around one player is that when the player doesn't play great then the side suffer like Griezmann in the final. We might have a simular issue with Rooney, but I'm confident Mourinho will find the solution otherwise he wouldn't want him so badly.
 
The problem is that we are not getting one of the world's best players. We're not getting a Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez, L. Ronaldo, Kaka etc. at the time they were purchased, we're getting potentially one of the world's best players, and even that's far from certain.
He absolutely is one of the best players in the world. There is a reason Barca and Real want him. Unless you're arguing semantics he is obviously one of the best midfielders around, whether he is as good as a bunch of strikers you've listed is irrelevant.
 
The problem is that we are not getting one of the world's best players. We're not getting a Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez, L. Ronaldo, Kaka etc. at the time they were purchased, we're getting potentially one of the world's best players, and even that's far from certain.
In your position, if you are a top 10 player then thats good enough for me to be considered one of the best in the world. I think he is a top 5 midfielder in the world right now but just to keep you happy Im saying he is in the top 10.
 
A pic of Mou's drawing board, accidentally present in the frame of his daughter's pic of him is doing the rounds. People say Pogba can be seen in the lineup.
Someone please post it so that our experts from the world of Muppetry may scrutinise it.

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He absolutely is one of the best players in the world. There is a reason Barca and Real want him. Unless you're arguing semantics he is obviously one of the best midfielders around, whether he is as good as a bunch of strikers you've listed is irrelevant.

Pogba is the best midfield player in his generation at this point, there's some really promising players but Pogba is multi dimensional.

Agreed with you on this point (Me saying best midfielder of his generation people may disagree with me but he will develop and become more consistent in the EPL).
 
I would guess United's target is to have Pogba on board for the City match in China. That would be a marketer's dream, wouldn't it. The biggest player making his debut for the most popular club against their biggest rivals in front of the biggest potential audience in the world.
Pogba is on holiday until the 6th of August.
 
Would love it if United can get it sorted this week! I am not able to get much of work done in office, just refreshing forums and social media for news.
 
I dont think anything will be agreed today but we need to get it done ASAP in case Madrid raise the funds to come in last minute. Cant count on the fax machine not working again.
It's nothing about they "cant raise the money" Perez just doesn't like him. Whether it's for footballing reasons or not we won't know. Oh well good for us.
 
It's nothing about they "cant raise the money" Perez just doesn't like him. Whether it's for footballing reasons or not we won't know. Oh well good for us.
It is about the money if journos are to be believed. They balked at the agent fees. We did that once and lost out on Hazard. Glad we learnt our lesson.
 
Slightly off topic but that's why international matches are rarely entertaining. At clubs you build a side transferring players to fit a system. International managers have to try get the best out of the best players they have. Griezmann is France's obvious best player and has so they make a system to get the most out him and if that means sacrificing others and playing Pogba in front of the back four then so be it. They don't play in the same position but it would compromise the balance. I don't think he played to bad there but it just wasn't exciting. If Pogba had played at hus best earlier in the tournament then maybe they would have played him his preferred position and push Griezmann into a different position. I think the problem when building a system around one player is that when the player doesn't play great then the side suffer like Griezmann in the final. We might have a simular issue with Rooney, but I'm confident Mourinho will find the solution otherwise he wouldn't want him so badly.

I completely agree with that, Pogba did well in that new role. From the game against Cameroon to the game against Germany there is a world, he has actually been well drilled by Deschamps, Pogba is obviously a lot better for Juventus but that's true for most players.
 
You hardly expect Marca to write the truth, right?

How would their readers react if they wrote it like it actually is:

"Marca say Man United signs Pogba since Real Madrid can't match their financial might, sadly the city and government wouldn't funnel more money into RM at this point"
 
So we've signed the best player in the French League and one of the best players in Italian(almost done) and German League this season. All this without the Champions League.

More or less confirms that it was Ferguson and Gill decision to look for value in market rather than being instructed by Glazers. Such a shame really :(
I missed this post; this is a good point. It also makes Wegner look a little less silly, though not completely.

The problem is that we are not getting one of the world's best players. We're not getting a Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez, L. Ronaldo, Kaka etc. at the time they were purchased, we're getting potentially one of the world's best players, and even that's far from certain.

That might be the case, but I think at this moment it's a matter of you guys wanting to buy this window and Juventus trying to cash in as much as possible. And since everyone in the PL has a ton of money...
 
You hardly expect Marca to write the truth, right?

How would their readers react if they wrote it like it actually is:

"Marca say Man United signs Pogba since Real Madrid can't match their financial might, sadly the city and government wouldn't funnel more money into RM at this point"
Its like they have written that article just to rile up United fans.
 
Pogba is still on holiday so I strongly doubt it. The most that will happen by today is that we agree a fee. It won't be announced for a fair few days imo.
Yeah you're right, I seem to remember the Ronaldo transfer being agreed between the two clubs whilst he was on holiday in LA (why do footballers in particular like going there on holiday?).
I'm still in disbelief at this happening though, I will not allow myself to get seduced by the caf.:mad:
 
Anyway, people who aren't happy with us spending obscene amount of money, perhaps you'd like to go back to the summer where we signed - Obertan, Owen on a free and Valencia. I think there was another player, but by feck - I don't even want to remember who that was.
Tbh in the end it's performances and results which count and despite mega signings in the last 3 years I would take our league positions in the following years of that summer ahead of the disaster and mega signings of the last 3 years anytime.
It's nice we can sign all those players but signings don't win you points. At the moment the pressure with every big money signing is increasing on United and Jose to have a really good season and that's all I am interested in.
And despite all the enthusiasm, Pogba is not even the finished world class article which in theory he should be for such ridiculous fee and wages.

All fingers crossed that we have a good start to the season, otherwise Raiola will be spouting crap about Pogb's possible next destinations before we even get to terms with just having bought him.
 
If Pogba didn't want to come, he could simply go to Real. He is 23 years old, has 3 years left on his contract and could easily force a move to Real next year, or the year after.
 
He's right of course. There again isn't that how football works? 99% of the transfers being made would probably choose us ahead of the team they chose if we were interested
Exactly. Everyone peddling this line are deluded if they don't think the players in the team they support wouldn't choose Real, or Barca. :lol:
 
You hardly expect Marca to write the truth, right?

How would their readers react if they wrote it like it actually is:

"Marca say Man United signs Pogba since Real Madrid can't match their financial might, sadly the city and government wouldn't funnel more money into RM at this point"
Real Madrid not coughing up the cashing, whether it be that they don't deem him worth it, or they can't afford to blow that amount on one transfer (doubtful), still kind of qualifies as them letting us pursue Pogba alone.

He would almost certainly choose them over us if they matched the bid.
 
If Pogba didn't want to come, he could simply go to Real. He is 23 years old, has 3 years left on his contract and could easily force a move to Real next year, or the year after.
But looks like Madrid have a ban next summer. So he will have to wait two more years with only a year left on his contract. Juve arent stupid to let him run down his contract till the last 12 months. So either he moves this summer or he has to sign an extension, which he clearly doesnt want to.
 
I personally thinks there's a strong case that this will happen. There's too much specific reports and there's no rebutal at all from Pogba/Juve apart from fans sentiment.

Cost wise it's a slap in the face to buy back our youth product for 100M, but feck it, let's get it done once and for all, take the lost and move on.
 
But looks like Madrid have a ban next summer. So he will have to wait two more years with only a year left on his contract. Juve arent stupid to let him run down his contract till the last 12 months. So either he moves this summer or the next or he has to sign an extension, which he clearly doesnt want to.
The decisions lies with Pogba though. If Pogba wanted Real soooooo much, then running his contract down is something Juve could do feck all about.
 
No details, but this is done and believe it or not, has been for a while. Its done in the sense that Juventus did agree to make a deal with us a while ago. United have called it technicalities remaining. Marketing has been all over it and its going to be hugh for everyone.
How do you know this?
 
The decisions lies with Pogba though. If Pogba wanted Real soooooo much, then running his contract down is something Juve could do feck all about.
They would have offered him a new contract next summer if he had stayed. He will say he isnt going to sign. At the first sign of trouble they will want to cash in and get him moved to the highest bidder, whether its us, Barca, Madrid or PSG.