I'm claiming credit for this speeding up. Gave unpasteurised night and watched my first Pogba highlights video, God smiled on me!
Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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How can Raiola force Pogba to quit Juventus ?
How did Raiola milk us for Miki ? did he force us to sign him, did he force our interest in him ?
It's been said before but it goes to show what impact an awesome manager like Mourinho can have. No way we would have attracted the signings this summer with LVG in charge.
Put your money where your erm heart is. 
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Paul Pogba to sign for before 3rd September 2016 Manchester United (Transfer Special - Specials) Odds: 1.333 Stake: 75.00 Possible Return: 100.00
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Paul Pogba to sign for before 3rd September 2016 Manchester United (Transfer Special - Specials) Odds: 1.333 Stake: 75.00 Possible Return: 100.00
Can anyone see this not happening at this stage?
I just can't believe we're going to sign Pogba, you always expect these sagas to end in heartbreak as they have so many times over the years. Truly amazing signing, and feck the fee, he's going to be the best midfielder in the world.
I just can't believe we're going to sign Pogba, you always expect these sagas to end in heartbreak as they have so many times over the years. Truly amazing signing, and feck the fee, he's going to be the best midfielder in the world.
Not a single Tancredi-BOOM in the world can begin to describe how huge this would be. And not a single feck will be given towards all jealous rival fans "mocking" us for buying him back. Last cog in the title contending machinery really.
Zipping up...
Zipping up...
We've been closer to signing players and still missed out. I'll believe it when he's having his medical. I refuse to get (over) excited until then.
How do you even come up with such ideas?That doesn't seem like a good investmentPut your money where your erm heart is.
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Paul Pogba to sign for before 3rd September 2016 Manchester United (Transfer Special - Specials) Odds: 1.333 Stake: 75.00 Possible Return: 100.00
Manchester United were a European and English power back then. A great manager signed so called average players and made them champions. So yes, bring me back that time please...
Some people seem to hope for failure just to see big name players arriving.
You think it won't happen or that the odd is to low?
Well no.
We're under no obligation to purchase Pogba.
It's a spurious connection to put together and if SAF was still here, he'd have gone a different route and remained as successful as he ever was, as proven numerous times in the past.
Oh how this thread has missed you!
We found out at the Euros that Deschamps doesn't know what he's doing and constantly played his star midfielder everywhere but his best position.
Whilst your first sentence might well be true, you can't draw that conclusion from games at a tournament where Pogba was given little opportunity or platform to deliver as he has done for Juventus.
Mourinho will not make the same mistakes as Deschamps, and outside of a severe injury crisis, Pogba won't be playing at the base of our midfield at any time during the next 3yrs or whatever.
Pogba is inconsistent and he is lackadaisical as well as sometimes positionally poor in defensive situations, but he is absolutely a difference-maker and one of few players in the world with the pure ability to turn games to his team's favour in an instant. We don't need him to do anything single-handedly as he has vastly more experienced players around him who can and will share the load throughout the campaign.
If anything, Mourinho is setting up a team that will get as much offensive brilliance out of Pogba as possible
If we hadn't then someone else would have. I wish people stopped using the one year on contract argument when it comes to top players, it quite clearly doesn't mean that much.
Troy Deeney says hello.
Pogba is one of the most marketable players on the plant and exciting to watch. He is on the verge of becoming a galatico. This will be a massive massive signing for United commercially.
No suprise really, both clubs doing the dance, it'll be agreed soon enough.
Was against spending so much money as it is a hell of a lot but now I'm caught up in it all, so much so I'm just leaving my nuts hanging out. Seeing how rival fans are getting pissed off with us again instead of laughing at us brings a tear to my eye.
Come home Pogba
Come home Pogba
We grossly overpaid for Martial too
Up to 80 mil euros for an unproven youngster is even worse imo. But sometimes you just have bite the bullet and pay
Of course this will distort the market. But it will distort for everyone ,not just us (see the Troy Deeney saga for example)
I think to be fair Woody had been trying to spend big before he died.
This. I don't know why this is being brought up repeatedly, when there is a distinct lack of logic in that argument.
It looks good in the eyes of the sponsors. Especially after the last 3 years we've had. We can't mess about else we'll lose money. If we go buy Pogba, it will add to the interest in Manchester and the derby will be cracked up even more.
This won't be typical spending, but I wouldn't be shocked if we've others in mind next summer. We do have some catching up to do but we're not far off a very good squad.
That's still €102m. Reports are they want €120m plus add-ons. If this happens it will be for around €110m with performance based add-ons.
@Fortitude could you please not increase your font size?
I suppose this is the art of negotiation. But if we're willing to pay €102m I doubt an extra €8m will be an issue.
Well, I think regardless who wins the title this upcoming season, I think you've all won the Transfer Muppetry Cup of 2016. It's a mind blowing figure for a player that's not as hyped as the last 3-4 transfer records.
All the Italian media is reporting that Pogba asked to leave. Propaganda by the Juve management? Tell the media to write such statements so it would look as if Pogba is looking to leave, and not wanting to stay despite new contract offer? The public would then shift the blame more towards the player rather than the board/management?
Either way, whatever happens in between, I would only believe and get excited once he hold up the shirt, or at least someone post a blood sample with his name or something.
Either way, whatever happens in between, I would only believe and get excited once he hold up the shirt, or at least someone post a blood sample with his name or something.
Yep it's brilliant. I already know the sort of comments that they'll be using if we pull this deal off, they'll be the exact comments I'd use if he were transferring to Man City for £100m. And they'd come from the same place as mine would: fear.
Good job the men in power at our club don't evaluate transfers on hype then. Otherwise we'd end up spending £35m on a Geordie's with ponytails who've had a decent half season.
I think it's more about the principle of the matter. United don't want to appear as though they've paid well over the odds and Juventus don't want to look like they've let one of their best players go unless it's for a sum that they couldn't say no to. If everyone comes out looking like it was a fair deal then no one loses face.
If this deal gets finialised, I suspect it will be a large fee but most of it will be performance and achievement based add-ons, which will ultimately be what the negotiations are about. Can't see anyone wanting to stump up €120m cash up front.
I'm sorry you're right, absolutely every detail you might need to know is available publicly, there's no way in the world that there couldcould be more to this. And of course, I'm sure you know better than the people who've made a career out of this.
All I'm trying to say is that yes these sorts of people make mistakes, but at the same time the club isn't going to spend £100m just like that without thinking about it and checking out it could afford to lose it if the worst happened.
I actually dropped my mouse during the post and it changed the font on a word. I don't know what the default font setting is for this forum and was trying to find the one that fit before giving up and just covering the whole body of text with what seemed to best fit.
I didn't set out to do anything to the font.
It sure looks ugly looking at it from that perspective but if we properly take into account the omnipotence we place on the manager and how it no longer tallies with the reality of the modern game then it becomes understandable. Every manager signs players according to their philosophy/principles and its very rare for managers to have similar opinions on players. The only way out of this mess is by establishing a senior post reserved for a football person on the board who will see to it that all the recruitment the club does is tailored to satisfy a specific strategy from the manager to the playing staff.
Having said that it can be argued that the ones in bold have delivered and can improve whilst Darmian and Schneiderlin can be expected to be valuable squad members, at least. Mourinho has come in and signed players to complement the existing ones and if his signings succeed then next summer we'd need just one or two signings meaning that our spending would have normalized.
Mkhitaryan would have cost closer to £50m if he wasn't in the last year of his contract and in fact maybe even more because they would not have sold him. Raiola didn't get the money Dortmund did.
We will probably have issues with Raiola in the future because he is renowned for being a cnut and getting what his player wants and will go to any lengh and play whatever games to get it done. He would not have pushed Pogba into doing anything that he didn't want to do. He has been critical in the past about agents putting money before their player desires, he isn't someone who push a player to move unless they want to, look at Hemsik could have earned much more buy moving but has wanted to stay a Napoli.
So we've signed the best player in the French League and one of the best players in Italian(almost done) and German League this season. All this without the Champions League.
More or less confirms that it was Ferguson and Gill decision to look for value in market rather than being instructed by Glazers. Such a shame really
It worked for Fergie and Gill.
Fact is the signings since Fergie has left have been poorly mainly. Only Shaw and Martial really you'd think will be mainstays.
Obviously not including this seasons signings. As much as the signings excite me. I'm not going to get too excited yet. I was delighted when we got Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Depay last year and that didn't work out. The less said about Falcao and Di Maria the better.
We found out that the caf doesn't watch football and missed the part where Deschamps played Pogba in his positions but Pogba failed to impress.