So predictable that story would come back. The press haven't got a clue what's going on.
Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
So are youse signing him
Of course we are! Just waiting for him to come back from holiday.
Someone that has a positive outlook on things. I love you
Is that scouse for jose?
Yes, in muppet land.
The woman who sells spoons near my house said he isn't coming. She was right before when she said that Neymar wasn't coming. She also said that Liverpool wouldn't win the league last year.
Did she say Kaka was coming in 2008 by any chance?
This thread grew 130 pages since i last checked it, was wondering if it was done or still in the will he wont he stage.
It also lacks the overall humour and mirth of sagas like Thiago and Vidal where the creativity of @Olly and others was on full display and made you curious to see what was on the next page.
Unless you're young, figuratively or literally, I have no idea how you can get so drawn into a transfer 'saga' in 2016. Even the supposed impasses of this transfer are dull. I guess that's where the endurance of transfer-hardened posters conflicts greatly with the newer guys in here.
No, no, no.
For the final touch of authenticity, you end with: "Make of that what you will."
Being Christ's second cousin, I can confirm this.
That he lives next door to Steve, I mean.
News just in, Pogba will sign for United. He may also sign for Madrid. There is a chance he'll just renew with Juve. I'm 100% certain that one of this might happen. I'll be honest I haven't got a clue but I've not tweeted in 20 minutes.
you'll never take him alive suckers!!!
Don't think this is happening, I believe it would have been sorted by now if it was going to happen.
That would have us in "Raptures"
What a stupid thing to say
And why is that?
Aren't Marca the reliable ones when it comes to Real while AS mostly spout bs?
Why would it be sorted by now if it is going to happen? Every deal is different, some happen quickly, others get dragged out and fall through even after agreements. This one with the amount of money, his current club not wanting to let go of a top talent, then there is the fact that he just finished a tournament which was his main focus and now is on a much needed vacation where perhaps he is contemplating his options - there are plenty of reasons why it's not done. Then again it could be done but, that he first needs to have a medical for it to be announced officially but, since he is on holiday, that formality could be holding up an announcement.
Even Mkhitariryan which we everyone knew was happening took a while to get officially announced and this one is far more complicated and more things going on with it, that it doesn't make sense to just expect to be done like that.
Not reliable as much as Madrids mouthpiece, can't trust anything they write, it's just what Madrid want people to hear.
yes, I would like to think so since Marca headline is favourable and as headline is not
I see Alegri is saying Juve are a better option for Pogba because they are in Champions League.
His choice is to play for an Italian club or play for the last manager to win the Champions League with an Italian club...
Ffs even we've won the Champions League more recently than Juve... not a great comparison for Alegri to have made.
Hes also said something about singings... Dani Alves 10 years ago would have been a solid transfer. He'll be lucky to play for another 2 seasons.
Its a no brainer really. This United project under Mourinho is one of the biggest in Europe right now, and if everything goes to plan for Mourinho Im sure his goal is winning another CL, not just talking about doing it.
His choice is to play for an Italian club or play for the last manager to win the Champions League with an Italian club...
Ffs even we've won the Champions League more recently than Juve... not a great comparison for Alegri to have made.
Hes also said something about singings... Dani Alves 10 years ago would have been a solid transfer. He'll be lucky to play for another 2 seasons.
Its a no brainer really. This United project under Mourinho is one of the biggest in Europe right now, and if everything goes to plan for Mourinho Im sure his goal is winning another CL, not just talking about doing it.
But he can surely wait a season? There's no other CM with his profile; Real, United (and maybe Barca) couldn't all have plugged their gaps by then, and there would be 1 year less on his contract. Meanwhile he gets to play CL with Europe's best defence, best young attacking talent (Dybala), and an excellent tactical manager.
Madrid are looking at a ban next year. Barca might still may not be able to afford him even if the price drops. We can definitely go after him again next summer but the thing is how sure are we that Juventus actually want to wait another season? I mean £100m is fecking lot of people and no club will turn down that much. Yes they did come out and say he is not for sale. Every club is of course going to come out and say "we want to keep our best players", "we dont want to sell him" or "this is the right place for him".
Hell didnt Fergie say he wont sell Madrid a virus and then sell Ronaldo to them the next summer? Their agenda is to squeeze out as much money as they can from us or try and get Madrid involved to get a bidding war started. But I dont think it is going to happen. Its a risk that Juventus have to take I guess if they keep him. There is every chance they wont get the same £100m for him next year.
Whats your thinking behind this? Absolutely makes no sense.
He's definitely pushing the idea to Pogba, to stay on to win the CL with Juve as a personal goal.
However Pogba did also mention he wants to play in a stronger league, and that's what Allegri cannot provide. Juve is a shoo-in for another league title. So hopefully this tips it in our favour.
One things for sure though, some parties in Italy/Juve are getting a bit fidgety.
The article of AS
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2016/07/18/primera/1468803107_613312.html
"In recent talks between Pogba's agent, Mino Raiola, and Real Madrid, which took place last week, the white club interlocutor requested more time to value how they can do the operation. The figures being considered for the transfer, 120 million euros, are not assumable now for the white entity. To approach should make a big sale, and the lack of definition of the project can not develop a short-term strategy. United are very close to closing the transaction, has almost done, but the player has no hurry to sign. His dream is still to be under the command of Zidane. A dish that taste much better for him that a return to United, who didn´t know how to appreciate him for years, although the seductive Mou has already saved this pitfall.
Raiola's statements a few days ago, in which he said that "Pogba is happy at Juve, in no hurry to leave. He might even renew occurred after Madrid asked for more time. He is trying to cool the atmosphere. Interested in extending the saga to get bigger slice (ask for 20 million commission). Vecchia Signora sources have confirmed to AS that the renewal of the player has not been raised. "If he stays we are happy, but we are making up the squad thinking that he is leaving". Mino Raiola is who is taking the issue personally. Juve has told him that the price is from 100 to 120 million (the price is lower if paid in cash) and, when present in the offices of Vinovo, will be assessed. Madrid need time ... United presses. No more galacticos in the market."
In the second part of the article they write about Madrid debt, 620m€ and for which they have to sell before buying. In my opinion AS is not a Madrid mouthpiece although is a pro-Madrid newspaper, without hesitation, not like Marca that is more "global". Florentino sued Relaño (As director) for an article about the debt.
The last year they were the first writing about the talks of Ramos agent and United.
Personally I think there is nothing unless Pogba speak publicly . I just read the print edition of Marca and they assume that Gomes will sign for Madrid.
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2016/07/18/primera/1468803107_613312.html
"In recent talks between Pogba's agent, Mino Raiola, and Real Madrid, which took place last week, the white club interlocutor requested more time to value how they can do the operation. The figures being considered for the transfer, 120 million euros, are not assumable now for the white entity. To approach should make a big sale, and the lack of definition of the project can not develop a short-term strategy. United are very close to closing the transaction, has almost done, but the player has no hurry to sign. His dream is still to be under the command of Zidane. A dish that taste much better for him that a return to United, who didn´t know how to appreciate him for years, although the seductive Mou has already saved this pitfall.
Raiola's statements a few days ago, in which he said that "Pogba is happy at Juve, in no hurry to leave. He might even renew occurred after Madrid asked for more time. He is trying to cool the atmosphere. Interested in extending the saga to get bigger slice (ask for 20 million commission). Vecchia Signora sources have confirmed to AS that the renewal of the player has not been raised. "If he stays we are happy, but we are making up the squad thinking that he is leaving". Mino Raiola is who is taking the issue personally. Juve has told him that the price is from 100 to 120 million (the price is lower if paid in cash) and, when present in the offices of Vinovo, will be assessed. Madrid need time ... United presses. No more galacticos in the market."
In the second part of the article they write about Madrid debt, 620m€ and for which they have to sell before buying. In my opinion AS is not a Madrid mouthpiece although is a pro-Madrid newspaper, without hesitation, not like Marca that is more "global". Florentino sued Relaño (As director) for an article about the debt.
The last year they were the first writing about the talks of Ramos agent and United.
Personally I think there is nothing unless Pogba speak publicly . I just read the print edition of Marca and they assume that Gomes will sign for Madrid.
Definitely seems that way now. To publically come out as a manager and try to make a case for not going is a pretty strong indication its more than just a rumour at this stage.
I think Real are trying to offload a couple of players to get back in this one. Problem for them is they need to maximise the sales in order to raise the cash. Not sure they'll get what their expecting for a couple of their players... unless they are willing to let go of one of their stars.
Id fully accept United getting Kroos if they get Pogba. Every day of the week.
I expect United to buy a few Madrid cast offs to fund this deal. We have to stop kidding ourselves, he's clearly waiting for Madrid or he'd be our player now.
I think they will try to offload James to try and compete. Problem is not many clubs are willing or able to pay the 80 million (euros) that Madrid did to sign him. On to Pogba I wont be surprised if hes willing to wait a little for Madrid, it would be a dream come true for him especially that Zidane is there (for now). I genuinely hope we have that back up option ready and its not just that they thought of Matuidi.
Are AS reliable?
@carvajal if Madrid is going for Gomes I would assume their chance to go after Pogba would be very thin or close to zero. Because Gomes is the United backup in their chase of Pogba.
The Pogba to Madrid ship has sailed on my opinion. No need to go for Gomes if you have Pogba, or the other way around.
It's either he stays or he goes to United or a third party grabs him at the very last minute (Bayern?).
The Pogba to Madrid ship has sailed on my opinion. No need to go for Gomes if you have Pogba, or the other way around.
It's either he stays or he goes to United or a third party grabs him at the very last minute (Bayern?).
I agree,despite the article I don't see Madrid among the candidates.
Florentino prefers to deal with Mendes and Valencia although I think that Zidane is not too excited about André Gomes.Anyway Madrid is acting in a very strange way this summer so I wouldn't rule out any option yet
@carvajal Do you want Pogba as a Real Madrid fan?
If its that way I would rather we pull out of this one and sign Kroos for £60m or thereabouts. Help them fund their galactico signing whilst we get a player we are more in need of now and avoid the trouble Pogba and Raiola would cause when Madrid come calling in a couple of years.
Why not buy Pogba and when Real come for him sell him for £80m + Kronos in a few years time