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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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The guy won the u21 world cup for France winning player of the tournament along with it. He won young player of the tournament at last world cup in Brazil. Hes been to a Champions League final and has won is it 3 Serie As and a Premier League at 23... Not a bad CV really is it?
 
Green_Red said:
The guy won the u21 world cup for France winning player of the tournament along with it. He won young player of the tournament at last world cup in Brazil. Hes been to a Champions League final and has won is it 3 Serie As and a Premier League at 23... Not a bad CV really is it?
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Four Serie A's and 0 Premier League titles.
 
Green_Red said:
The guy won the u21 world cup for France winning player of the tournament along with it. He won young player of the tournament at last world cup in Brazil. Hes been to a Champions League final and has won is it 3 Serie As and a Premier League at 23... Not a bad CV really is it?
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Yeah but he couldn't even get into a team with Rafael and park in midfield, meh
 
Is there any chance Acquire Me or one of his followers can open a thread for his own "insider info"? Kinda annoying having to sift through the "omg what have you heard?? :drool:" comments sometimes. I get that some people believe him and I'm fine with that, but is he really a source that should be popping up so much in threads like this one and before that the Zlatan one? Just a thought, and I've nothing against the guy.
 
Reddevilboy said:
Too many pages to read. Can someone update me the progress of this? So is this actually still on?
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I am very confident this will happen.

- We are widely reported to be willing to throw serious dough on the table

- Real have backed out according to various sources including Marca

- According to Marca, United are his first choice anyway.

I am near-certain this will be done but it may take a while to finalise.
 
Pogba is married now? That's a problem as we always have problem with some of the wives.
 
Ibra convincing Pogba to join us, already a king.

Even agent Bobby tried to convince Pogba by saying about how good it would be for him to be in the league :lol:
 
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Pogba spoke in spanish in a recent interview with some journalists from ESPN and also said that Cristiano deserves the Ballon d'Or.

That doesn't look like good news, guys.
 
prath92 said:
Vidal was linked to United in 2014 summer. He went to Bayern in 2015 summer. We had little to no links with Vidal last summer. Last summer Vidal went to Bayern uncontested, or at least we weren't interested. Same with James, with whom we had few links this summer alone.

How do you know it isn't? Depay was one of the most rated youngsters in the world at the time and apparently PSG had agreed all terms before we swooped in the last minute.

Thiago also wasn't world class when he moved. He was a highly rated youngster like martial and depay albeit at a slightly higher level.

The point is every team has a saga and end up not signing players. And Pogba seems more than most of those as the more reliable sources say agreement exists. With Vidal most Italian sources were saying that we didn't bid.
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Whether we were interested or not, the point still remains. We haven't bought any elite, world class players for a good few years now and they always seem to end up at the other three clubs. And that is where my opinion about Pogba transfer stems from. If you think Depay helps your argument about us signing tier 'A' talent you surely haven't seen him play and to compare him with James/Kroos/Bale is utter madness. Just like Hazard is good but not Ronaldo good who is truly a global star. Pogba is the Ronaldo of midfield right now in terms of popularity and competition, and belongs to the category of select few players who are extremely sought after not the Depay category. And PSG? They aren't bigger than United, only rich. I was talking about Real/Barca/Bayern. PSG get the same second tier or rejects United do (Di Mara/Moura/Cavani). When I say second tier I do not mean not good enough, mind you. But not the best of the best. So them being in for Depay doesn't mean the same thing.

I am equally desperate for United to land Pogba and players of similar ilk/stature for a long time now. And so far I have been disappointed so excuse me of being wary of getting my hopes up at all. Let's stop trying to convince each other about this because none of us have any idea about our transfer dealings and what issues we face. All we have is our respective opinions and come the end of July, I think we will know whose opinion was better formed. I would be more than happy to be the one to be proven wrong.:)
 
Fraud said:
Pogba spoke in spanish in a recent interview with some journalists from ESPN and also said that Cristiano deserves the Ballon d'Or.

That doesn't look like good news, guys.
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Was he supposed to say Rooney?
 
Vaibhav Raj said:
Whether we were interested or not, the point still remains. We haven't bought any elite, world class players for a good few years now and they always seem to end up at the other three clubs. And that is where my opinion about Pogba transfer stems from. If you think Depay helps your argument about us signing tier 'A' talent you surely haven't seen him play and to compare him with James/Kroos/Bale is utter madness. Just like Hazard is good but not Ronaldo good who is truly a global star. Pogba is the Ronaldo of midfield right now in terms of popularity and competition, and belongs to the category of select few players who are extremely sought after not the Depay category. And PSG? They aren't bigger than United, only rich. I was talking about Real/Barca/Bayern. PSG get the same second tier or rejects United do (Di Mara/Moura/Cavani). When I say second tier I do not mean not good enough, mind you. But not the best of the best. So them being in for Depay doesn't mean the same thing.

I am equally desperate for United to land Pogba and players of similar ilk/stature for a long time now. And so far I have been disappointed so excuse me of being wary of getting my hopes up at all. Let's stop trying to convince each other about this because none of us have any idea about our transfer dealings and what issues we face. All we have is our respective opinions and come the end of July, I think we will know whose opinion was better formed. I would be more than happy to be the one to be proven wrong.:)
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Sorry to jump in, but i'd definitely categorise Di Maria as that elite, world class player you speak of. Falcao at the time was a bit of a coup for us, too (even though he was a disaster on the field), and RVP and Ibra were/are both world class (at the time of signing). Mkhitaryan is on the cusp of world class after last season too, and in terms of youth prospects, Martial and Memphis (I know you argued against mentioning Memphis but I think he's still worth including, given he had many options aside from United) were sought after players who picked us. In that list of players above, there's a mix of youth and proven world class talent; big names, and soon-to-be big names.

I think you are right that we comparatively do not buy as many top players as the other big three, whether we cannot or simply will not, but I expect that to change soon enough. Fergie was never one to buy the galactico signings and we had him for the best part of 3 decades, so it's not too hard to see why we weren't competing at the highest end in the transfer market. Since he left, we've had a few quite public disappointments, but under Mourinho, the trajectory of the club is looking very positive. To bring this back to Pogba, i'm very optimistic we will get it done. I think worrying about the pull of United is a thing of the past (recent past, mind you... Moyes...).
 
jungledrums said:
I think you are right that we comparatively do not buy as many top players as the other big three, whether we cannot or simply will not, To bring this back to Pogba, i'm very optimistic we will get it done. I think worrying about the pull of United is a thing of the past (recent past, mind you... Moyes...).
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I think a big part of not getting the top players over the last few years is because you weren't in the Champions League. Despite what many on here say, it's still a massive pull.

I think it's less of a problem now, because players trust Mourinho to bring success, whereas under Moyes or LVG, there was no guarantee they'd get into the CL/Remain in the top 4 the next season.
 
jungledrums said:
Sorry to jump in, but i'd definitely categorise Di Maria as that elite, world class player you speak of. Falcao at the time was a bit of a coup for us, too (even though he was a disaster on the field), and RVP and Ibra were/are both world class (at the time of signing). Mkhitaryan is on the cusp of world class after last season too, and in terms of youth prospects, Martial and Memphis (I know you argued against mentioning Memphis but I think he's still worth including, given he had many options aside from United) were sought after players who picked us. In that list of players above, there's a mix of youth and proven world class talent; big names, and soon-to-be big names.

I think you are right that we comparatively do not buy as many top players as the other big three, whether we cannot or simply will not, but I expect that to change soon enough. Fergie was never one to buy the galactico signings and we had him for the best part of 3 decades, so it's not too hard to see why we weren't competing at the highest end in the transfer market. Since he left, we've had a few quite public disappointments, but under Mourinho, the trajectory of the club is looking very positive. To bring this back to Pogba, i'm very optimistic we will get it done. I think worrying about the pull of United is a thing of the past (recent past, mind you... Moyes...).
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Di Maria is world class. No one can begrudge him that. But he was pushed out of Real Madrid giving rich clubs a chance to sign him for crazy money. Falcao was a coup but again wouldn't have gotten into Real/Barca/Bayern teams. RvP has one year left him in when he arrived just like Ibra so of course the other three clubs were not interested since they can buy world class players who are much younger and on the same level as these two and we were the one's looking for a quick fix. Again, you seem to miss my point about tier 1 and tier 2 players. Tier 1 players are select few, not too young, nor too old, just about to hit their prime, and are about to become global icon world wide and are not being forced out by their club to make place for a new player. Examples : Cristiano Ronaldo when he went to Madrid, Gareth Bale, Tony Kroos, Arturo Vidal, James Rodriguez, Luiz Suarez, Neymar etc. Whether they make it big in these big clubs is another matter. I am specifically looking at the competition for their signatures here. The players you mentioned along with Depay are pretty good, of course. Why else would they be in United squad and as popular as they are. But they are not tier 1.

Amen to the rest of your post. I hope that is exactly the case and we get back to being the force we were.
 
Vaibhav Raj said:
Di Maria is world class. No one can begrudge him that. But he was pushed out of Real Madrid giving rich clubs a chance to sign him for crazy money. Falcao was a coup but again wouldn't have gotten into Real/Barca/Bayern teams. RvP has one year left him in when he arrived just like Ibra so of course the other three clubs were not interested since they can buy world class players who are much younger and on the same level as these two and we were the one's looking for a quick fix. Again, you seem to miss my point about tier 1 and tier 2 players. Tier 1 players are select few, not too young, nor too old, just about to hit their prime, and are about to become global icon world wide and are not being forced out by their club to make place for a new player. Examples : Cristiano Ronaldo when he went to Madrid, Gareth Bale, Tony Kroos, Arturo Vidal, James Rodriguez, Luiz Suarez, Neymar etc. Whether they make it big in these big clubs is another matter. I am specifically looking at the competition for their signatures here. The players you mentioned along with Depay are pretty good, of course. Why else would they be in United squad and as popular as they are. But they are not tier 1.

Amen to the rest of your post. I hope that is exactly the case and we get back to being the force we were.
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I didn't miss your point, I acknowledged it, but successful clubs aren't just built on the back of Galactico signings. My counter argument was that, under Fergie, we didn't tend to go all out for proven, tier one, world class players, yet we still dominated England and were twice the European Champions. I dunno, it just seems to me that you keep creating caveats to account for certain players, just so that you can suggest that we do not sign "tier one" players. RVP, Falcao and Di Maria were tier one, in my opinion, even after considering your conditions (age, price, ability etc). I do absolutely see your point though, I just disagree with very minor aspects, but in all your overarching argument is correct. Agree to (somewhat) disagree!
Cascarino said:
I think a big part of not getting the top players over the last few years is because you weren't in the Champions League. Despite what many on here say, it's still a massive pull.

I think it's less of a problem now, because players trust Mourinho to bring success, whereas under Moyes or LVG, there was no guarantee they'd get into the CL/Remain in the top 4 the next season.
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Can't argue with that. Though I'd say the manager may be even more important than Champions League football. Take Thiago: why would Thiago (an incredibly technical football with Spanish influences) want to play under David Moyes, a Scot who is unproven at the highest level? That, in my opinion, is a massive factor. Mourinho, since Fergie, is arguably our first properly world class and relevant manager (I say relevant, because LVG was world class once).

Edit: somewhat off topic, apologies
 
Vaibhav Raj said:
I am strictly talking about transfers that United, in its current situation, can pull off and has been able to pull of in the past few years. How about you name me one world class player we have got in past six-seven or so years with our 'unlimited' budget? Even better, name me one player that United landed whom either Bayern, Real or Barca were concretely interested in? Thiago? Vidal? Ramos? Kroos? James Rodriguez? Bale? And do not name that one player who was being moved out of the club but couldn't go to his favorite one because of FFP and later ended up making the switch in one year anyway. We got Mata who was being moved out of Chelsea and I don't think Real, Barca or Bayern were in for him. Those are United's two most expensive signings recently. So there is a pattern you choose not to see.

1. Juventus do not want to sell.
2. If a world class player (I am referring to the cream of the crop) wants to force a move away, his likely destination will most probably be Real, Barca or Bayern going by previous six-seven years of history.

Frankly, it baffles me how you cannot see the signs out there. Again, let me reiterate, I would be more than happy to be wrong in this case and of course there is a 0.99% chance that a series of events will lead Pogba to United.
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There is so much wrong with this reply, I'll try to be as logical as possible.

1. What current situation are we in, financially we have the capability to finance whatever transfer we deem necessary, please do not mistake this statement for anything other than a look at our financial power,
echoed by holding the record fee in England.

2. I cannot name a single world class player that we've signed in the past years.

3. Juventus do not want to sell, but money talks; we didn't want to sell Ronaldo, Tottenham didn't want to sell
Bale, Liverpool didn't want to sell torres, Arsenal didn't want to sell van persie, if every club got what they wished because they didn't want to sell, half of the transfers that happen, wouldn't of.

4. The trends you talk about, are trends, yes, it's a transfer that is out of the norm, and a sum which we haven't even grazed before, but these are trends, you can attempt to predict something based on recent history but it still doesn't eliminate the possibility of it happening.

5. Where did 0.99% come from? what does that even represent, you mean to say if we attempted to buy a young player for 100m on 100 different occasions, we would fail 99 times?

to conclude...
I quoted you, because you implied you could easily tell the difference between a transfer that will or is likely to happen, and one that is just journalism for clicks.

So again, I implore you to provide evidence for this, if this is solely based on the fact that in recent years we have not signed anyone world class, and have not ever reached a transfer fee of that scale, then your points are completely unfounded.
We've just signed a world class manager in Mourinho, and a world class player in Zlatan, plus we've broken our personal highest transfer fee twice in the past couple of years.
 
Pscholes18 said:
Marca saying Pogba has agreed to terms with United....211k a week.
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Someone must be leaking this amount.
It's not much though (I mean, relatively), Pogba was on 4.5 EUR net / year, this amount quoted above is ca. 11M GBP gross / year, which would be 6M GBP net / year, or a 60% increase in EUR. Very nice, but not the triple amount we've heard. Now if they could simply announce it quickly...
 
Fraud said:
Pogba spoke in spanish in a recent interview with some journalists from ESPN and also said that Cristiano deserves the Ballon d'Or.

That doesn't look like good news, guys.
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He speaks a lot of languages
 
Gasolin said:
Someone must be leaking this amount.
It's not much though (I mean, relatively), Pogba was on 4.5 EUR net / year, this amount quoted above is ca. 11M GBP gross / year, which would be 6M GBP net / year, or a 60% increase in EUR. Very nice, but not the triple amount we've heard. Now if they could simply announce it quickly...
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Rooooonnnneeeyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Gazza said:
Is there any chance Acquire Me or one of his followers can open a thread for his own "insider info"? Kinda annoying having to sift through the "omg what have you heard?? :drool:" comments sometimes. I get that some people believe him and I'm fine with that, but is he really a source that should be popping up so much in threads like this one and before that the Zlatan one? Just a thought, and I've nothing against the guy.
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Just search for his posts in the thread.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
It seems that he does own a noteworthy restaurant in Soho called 'The House of Ho' and the that Twitter account is linked to his website etc.

So not some random sofa masturbator at least.

Some would call this a low point, others would say high.
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The fecking house of ho
 
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