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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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I just hope we know something sooner rather than later, either way. The worst part of muppeting is these long, drawn-out sagas that seem never-ending until the club/player comes out and says: "I'll stay, renewed 5 years." or something of that effect. Or he goes to/renews with Real Madrid (S. Ramos). :(

.. that one still hurts.
 
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Taxx said:
I just hope we know something sooner rather than later, either way. The worst part of muppeting is these long, drawn-out sagas that seem never-ending until the club/player comes out and says: "I'll stay, renewed 5 years." or something of that effect. Or he renews with Real Madrid (S. Ramos). :(

.. that one still hurts.
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Agree totally. The press love WUM'ing us with these big name players every window. I reckon he's Real Madrid bound anyway.
 
CS@SG said:
PLaying style, positions, wife, the burglar blah blah blah, come on, all are just excuses, PSG is always the 1st choice. When the window was open, the bastard wanna out.
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Oh yes, I agree that PSG was always his target. And he was very shitty about it. But if he/we had a great season, I don't think he'd have left so soon. In our first half of that season, he looked comfortable and interested. It was noticeably different after that.
 
I cant see him coming back to United at all. Would love to see him back here but think he has already made his mind up that ultimately he wants Madrid. Madrid don't seem to have the money to buy him though as its all be very quiet, unless that's their tactic. Wait and let us do all the running and get Juve to accept a fee and then they jump in and match the offer (or a slightly lower offer) and Pogba signs for them.
 
AbusementPark said:
I cant see him coming back to United at all. Would love to see him back here but think he has already made his mind up that ultimately he wants Madrid. Madrid don't seem to have the money to buy him though as its all be very quiet, unless that's their tactic. Wait and let us do all the running and get Juve to accept a fee and then they jump in and match the offer (or a slightly lower offer) and Pogba signs for them.
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RM would need to sell before they can buy, like Toni, JR or Morata.
 
CS@SG said:
I find TFM's forward run with ball and off the ball rather good, don't know about his shooting, scoring ability though. My opinion is that his attacking talents will be wasted if he is to be in DM position.
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Tim's shooting ability is pretty bad. He's not really an attacking talent. His best attacking weapon is his ability to drive forward.
 
I have said this for weeks...

I am extremely confident Woody will get this done.

I cannot fathom why people doubt it, frankly. We are Man United, but not the penny-pinching at the last min version of the latter Fergie years.
 
CS@SG said:
RM would need to sell before they can buy, like Toni, JR or Morata.
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Real Madrid can buy him at any time and worry about selling players on after that.
King Kendrick said:
People saying its too much money...
Does Ronaldo not look like a steal now? Bale not as much, but noone ever brings up his transfer fee. Knowing what we know now, Neymar looks like a steal as well. As long as they're young, which Pohba is, we can expect to see at least 8 years of top-level performances. I don't get where this hesitation is coming from, especially in a market where 30 million pound offers for Troy Deeney and Ighalo of all people are being turned down.
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I think the hesitation amongst us is due to the idea he prefers Real Madrid. He could come here for £100m and after one season kick up a fuss and leave on the cheap to Madrid. I do agree that the money is irrelevant if he arrives for £100m and stays here for the next 8 years and helps delivers success, it would represent good value for money. I think its just fear that it turns into a ADM situation, but ADM never really wanted to come here but if Pogba does come it is different from ADM. Madrid wanted rid of ADM for allegedly being too greedy wanting a new contract and as such was forced out of the club, Juve don't want to sell Pogba and it could require Pogba himself asking to be let go.
 
King Kendrick said:
People saying its too much money...
Does Ronaldo not look like a steal now? Bale not as much, but noone ever brings up his transfer fee. Knowing what we know now, Neymar looks like a steal as well. As long as they're young, which Pohba is, we can expect to see at least 8 years of top-level performances. I don't get where this hesitation is coming from, especially in a market where 30 million pound offers for Troy Deeney and Ighalo of all people are being turned down.
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No doubt. But that is provided if the player stays here long enough for ManUtd to recoup back the value. Seriously, do not want a AdM again.
 
If we do offer them £100m, he will be a Man Utd player, Juve will bite our hand off.
 
KingMinger22 said:
I cannot fathom why people doubt it, frankly. We are Man United, but not the penny-pinching at the last min version of the latter Fergie years.
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I still worry that if Madrid match our offer, he'll take CL over us, but i agree with your overall positivity. MUFC and Jose want Pogba; Jose has been chasing him for two seasons now and this is his best shot.
 
AbusementPark said:
I cant see him coming back to United at all. Would love to see him back here but think he has already made his mind up that ultimately he wants Madrid. Madrid don't seem to have the money to buy him though as its all be very quiet, unless that's their tactic. Wait and let us do all the running and get Juve to accept a fee and then they jump in and match the offer (or a slightly lower offer) and Pogba signs for them.
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Ya but Pogba has agreed to come back. Hence "Di Marzio: agreement in principle reached with Pogba"
 
King Kendrick said:
ADM we recouped pretty much the entire fee when we sold him, and for the half season that he was in form was without a doubt our best player. I view it like this, if Pogba plays well, best believe RM has to pony up at least as much as we paid for him, and if he plays poorly, then RM will be too busy signing the next "star" to worry about him, or will at least have to come close to the fee we paid for him to even consider to sell. Even if PP kicks up a fuss, we have all the leverage given that he still has 3-4 years left on his contract.
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ADM had a few years left on his contract and we still had to cut our ties with him after 1 season so its feasible it could happen the same way with Pogba if he decided he didn't want to stay. Afterall his agent is known for throwing the odd chair about to get his way, and has forced through a couple of transfers for Mhki alone by kicking up a fuss.
 
King Kendrick said:
People saying its too much money...
Does Ronaldo not look like a steal now? Bale not as much, but noone ever brings up his transfer fee. Knowing what we know now, Neymar looks like a steal as well. As long as they're young, which Pohba is, we can expect to see at least 8 years of top-level performances. I don't get where this hesitation is coming from, especially in a market where 30 million pound offers for Troy Deeney and Ighalo of all people are being turned down.
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Has anything similar ever happened though, smashing the transfer record for someone who isn't a forward? I'm not arguing against it, I'm honestly just curious. I guess there's examples at CB like the Luiz deal which was silly...Rio was a massive fee at the time as well I believe (though he was actually worth it).

I'm not including AdM in that because the numbers being bandied about are so much larger and that was only just recently...
 
I suppose the shear size of the transfer fee will give us some security when other clubs come sniffing.
 
King Kendrick said:
ADM we recouped pretty much the entire fee when we sold him, and for the half season that he was in form was without a doubt our best player. I view it like this, if Pogba plays well, best believe RM has to pony up at least as much as we paid for him, and if he plays poorly, then RM will be too busy signing the next "star" to worry about him, or will at least have to come close to the fee we paid for him to even consider to sell. Even if PP kicks up a fuss, we have all the leverage given that he still has 3-4 years left on his contract.
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If he plays well, RM comes along and he forces a transfer, and what? In the search for another superstar, rebuild the team AGAIN?
 
CS@SG said:
If he plays well, RM comes along and he forces a transfer, and what? In the search for another superstar, rebuild the team AGAIN?
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Let's not sign anyone then, there's a chance they'll want to move!
 
Breaking the world record by some distance for a former academy player who left us because he saw the grass was greener somewhere else, and, most important, that's nowhere good enough for the prices quoted (not my cash but still). In hindsight it is clear he made the right decision to leave us but I still not convinced this will be a right move by the club if it goes through.
 
Oh my! What a news to wake up to and then read the muppetery :D
 
King Kendrick said:
People saying its too much money...
Does Ronaldo not look like a steal now? Bale not as much, but noone ever brings up his transfer fee. Knowing what we know now, Neymar looks like a steal as well. As long as they're young, which Pohba is, we can expect to see at least 8 years of top-level performances. I don't get where this hesitation is coming from, especially in a market where 30 million pound offers for Troy Deeney and Ighalo of all people are being turned down.
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Ronaldo, Bale and Neymar were young players who were bought as long term investments.

Pogba isn't going to stick around for more than about 3 years. You can't look at him as an investment. His playing timeframe is going to be like we're buying a 29 year old, albeit one who still lacks experience and discipline. We're also buying at the top of the market. I can only see prices going down from here, a bit like they did after the Zidane transfer fee a few years ago.
 
Theonas said:
Bringing up one example does not constitute the norm. In fact, Pogba is actually one of the players I don't mind that much overpaying for. My point however was more general about how the club has been conducting itself in the transfer market. It has been one long show of vulgar desperation. As I said before, let's at least hope it works out because I am tired of treating transfers as successes on their own.
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Vulgar desperation or showing an ambition they should have shown prior? United are no more desperate then any club and unlike most, we're not trying to stockpile players either.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Has anything similar ever happened though, smashing the transfer record for someone who isn't a forward? I'm not arguing against it, I'm honestly just curious. I guess there's examples at CB like the Luiz deal which was silly...Rio was a massive fee at the time as well I believe (though he was actually worth it).

I'm not including AdM in that because the numbers being bandied about are so much larger and that was only just recently...
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Zidane?
 
come agent Adnan. Bug the hell out of this fella too now just as you did Miki to get him over to Man United.

 
BarstoolProphet said:
Breaking the world record by some distance for a former academy player who left us because he saw the grass was greener somewhere else, and, most important, that's nowhere good enough for the prices quoted (not my cash but still). In hindsight it is clear he made the right decision to leave us but I still not convinced this will be a right move by the club if it goes through.
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But there are a lot of factors besides the quality of the player that determines their value. Therefore, the all-important factor is whether or not the player is good enough to meet the club's aspirations, and secondly, whether they can afford it (plus any further signings if necessary).
 
To be fair, I love him but $120m is too too much money.
 
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Dante said:
Ronaldo, Bale and Neymar were young players who were bought as long term investments.

Pogba isn't going to stick around for more than about 3 years. You can't look at him as an investment. His playing timeframe is going to be like we're buying a 29 year old, albeit one who still lacks experience and discipline. We're also buying at the top of the market. I can only see prices going down from here, a bit like they did after the Zidane transfer fee a few years ago.
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There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that transfer fees are going to fall in the next few seasons, in fact the evidence we have suggests the contrary.
 
Going to be some disappointed muppets come the close of this transfer window.
 
Dante said:
Ronaldo, Bale and Neymar were young players who were bought as long term investments.

Pogba isn't going to stick around for more than about 3 years. You can't look at him as an investment. His playing timeframe is going to be like we're buying a 29 year old, albeit one who still lacks experience and discipline. We're also buying at the top of the market. I can only see prices going down from here, a bit like they did after the Zidane transfer fee a few years ago.
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Why would he move if we reach the elite level though?
Look at Madrid. Didn't really sign anybody last year, struggling to sign a player of note this season and will face a ban next season. They could go into post ban summer looking at 4 years without signing a star.
The landscape could be wildly different to how it is now in a few seasons. The appeal of Spain will start to dip imo.
 
For those who say its too much money. Remember the ronaldo money ? we are just spending that.
For me i just dont give a toss about what we pay. He is going to be ballon d or material and you have to pay that money to get him. Real dint give toss about what they paid for ronaldo or bale or varca about what they paid for neymar suarrz. I dont give a shit either. If it take 20 million more i say do it.
 
BarstoolProphet said:
Breaking the world record by some distance for a former academy player who left us because he saw the grass was greener somewhere else, and, most important, that's nowhere good enough for the prices quoted (not my cash but still). In hindsight it is clear he made the right decision to leave us but I still not convinced this will be a right move by the club if it goes through.
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That's because unlike Mourinho, the United way believes in youths
 
Theonas said:
Let's not get into semantics here but when I say game changers, that's fat Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Henry, Suarez, Neymar, ... Basically mostly attacking players who work close to the opponents goal. There is a reason why those guys go for the most money and win most Ballon d'Ors. Their job is the hardest and most rare to find in football. As much of a difference that the best midfielders can make, it simply won't be as big as the Messis of this world.
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Yet the world ransfer record was broken by the likes of Zidane, Luis Figo, Denilson and Kaka as well as your Ronaldo's, Bale, Vieri, Crespo and Shearer. So obviously teams judge midfielders who can influence a game, like Pogba can, as very important. So it's not only your out and out goal scorers that are deemed game changers.
 
This seems to be the equivalent of leaving one of your level 3 Pokemon at the day care centre and going back to collect him a good while later.

Couldn't be arsed to train him yourself, Exp Share hasn't been unlocked yet. Pay to get him back once you've remembered where you left him.
 
AltiUn said:
So in theory our strongest line up would be;

DDG

Shaw
Bailley
Smalling
Darmian

Schneiderlin
Schweinsteiger
Pogba

Mkhitaryan
Ibrahimovic
Martial
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Its probably

DDG

Shaw
Bailey
Smalling
Darmian

Schneiderlin
Pogba

Mkhitaryan
Rooney
Martial

Ibra
 
The people who think its too much money, lets say he signs, then what? How do you process that?
 
OK the money is too much, but not my money so that does not matter.
SAF let him go for a reason, he thought the grass was greener on the other side, he is a good player, I am just not sure he is right for us, the price tag is going to haunt him.
If he is coming back,I just hope he does what we will be paying a shed load of money for.
 
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