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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Whether it's £65m or £100m, that kind of money would be better spent on a world class attacking player like Griezmann, but that is just my opinion.

I too think it's ridiculous amount of money but if Jose/Ed want him, there must be good reason. Jose is a serial winner and knows the types of players it takes to win things. As i'm just a fan, I have to trust the guys in charge. All we can do.

I thought Martial was crazy money but...
 
Friend: "You've just signed Pogba, you must be absolutely ecstatic, what a player!"

You: "Yeah, fantastic... but he cost £20m more than I expected, I just can't believe it :( TRANSFER RUINED"

Get over it guys :lol:

Quite dramatic
 
Whether it's £65m or £100m, that kind of money would be better spent on a world class attacking player like Griezmann, but that is just my opinion.

Can you show us an example of the team you'd play with whatever attacking player you'd like?
 
I don't quite understand this. Maybe we should all stop debating full stop until an official bid is launched? Most the outlets are saying ~123m EUR (or £100m) rather than the latter numbers. I'm going by what most the reports are saying, because that's all we can really do at the moment.

Thing is, you keep debating about a figure that you're just running with because some outlets are quoting it.

Also, did you watch our games last season?
 
Whether it's £65m or £100m, that kind of money would be better spent on a world class attacking player like Griezmann, but that is just my opinion.
We have potential world class attackers already, but none in midfield.
 
According to Lequipe, Matuidi wants to leave and PSG could be okay with it.
The problem with Matuidi is that he's 29 now and considering he's an explosive box to box, one of the key things he relies on is his pace and power rather than technique. I'm not saying that he'd suddenly become average when he reaches 30, but he would likely start slowing down soon and that will affect his level. Vidal is perhaps a decent example, who is virtually the same age and although he still plays at a very high level, he's not the same beast he was at Juve pre-2014. L'Equipe say PSG will sell at a substantial fee, so it looks likely that from their point of view they want to sell him before he starts to majorly regress in order to get good money back.
 
The problem with Matuidi is that he's 29 now and considering he's an explosive box to box, one of the key things he relies on is his pace and power rather than technique. I'm not saying that he'd suddenly become average when he reaches 30, but he would likely start slowing down soon and that will affect his level. Vidal is perhaps a decent example, who is virtually the same age and although he still plays at a very high level, he's not the same beast he was at Juve pre-2014. L'Equipe say PSG will sell at a substantial fee, so it looks likely that from their point of view they want to sell him before he starts to majorly regress in order to get good money back.

PSG wants to keep him, he is the one who wants to go and see something different. And I don't want him, I'm just sharing the information.
 
So i'd presume we'd move to a 3 in midfield with him taking the left side birth, though our best no.6 is now 35, I think we need Kante as well as Pogba... to be honest I just really want Kante regardless. :D
Though i'm hoping Mourinho can get more use out of Schneiderlin than LvG managed, when I watched him for Southampton, he played more a no.8 with Wanyama playing the deeper of the two.
 
Because £100m is a lot of money.
Even if it Pogba costs £100m, that fee in 2016, is not as big as say the £80m Madrid paid for Ronaldo in 2009 compared to the markets at the time, due to inflation. And that's more the case with the new PL money coming in.

I found this graph off Google so can't claim it's accurate but it shows that the forecasted world record fee if it were paid in 2016 according to the average record fees paid so far would be over £100m. So to pay £100m on a transfer wouldn't be so crazy. Whether Pogba is worth that is another question, but either way I think £100m is paper talk and the actual fee would be closer to £85m.
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Even if it Pogba costs £100m, that fee in 2016, is not as big as say the £80m Madrid paid for Ronaldo in 2009 compared to the markets at the time, due to inflation. And that's more the case with the new PL money coming in.

I found this graph off Google so can't claim it's accurate but it shows that the forecasted world record fee if it were paid in 2016 according to the average record fees paid so far would be over £100m. So to pay £100m on a transfer wouldn't be so crazy. Whether Pogba is worth that is another question, but either way I think £100m is paper talk and the actual fee would be closer to £85m.
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I have little doubt there has been a lot of inflation in the market (as depicted in the graph) - but my end point is just that Pogba isn't worth the £100m figure quoted, even when taking the above into account.
 
I have little doubt there has been a lot of inflation in the market (as depicted in the graph) - but my end point is just that Pogba isn't worth the £100m figure quoted, even when taking the above into account.
What do you think he is worth and what would you be happy with us paying for him
 
I have little doubt there has been a lot of inflation in the market (as depicted in the graph) - but my end point is just that Pogba isn't worth the £100m figure quoted, even when taking the above into account.
Tbh I'd think most would agree with you in thinking £100m is too much. But I don't think he'd cost that much and even if he were I wouldn't be complaining as I'd rather have quality players in the team than United having a lot of money in their war chest. If your point was if we were to spend the money, you'd rather get different players, then fair enough but I personally will trust in Mourinho and the scouts to get the players they want and then analyse next year whether the players were good or not.
 
I have little doubt there has been a lot of inflation in the market (as depicted in the graph) - but my end point is just that Pogba isn't worth the £100m figure quoted, even when taking the above into account.

How much do you think it would be worth to the club in commercial terms?

Modern mega transfers, unfortunately, are about a lot more than just the players ability.
 
Pogba doesn't even want to come here, he wants to go to Barca. As I said earlier, I think Griezmann and Kante would cost about the same as Pogba, they certainly wouldn't cost £170m :lol:
Griezmann doesn't want to come here, he has just signed a new deal and said that he wants to stay there. You say pogba doesn't want come here but he hasn't said anything. His agent said United would be interesting as would RM, psg etc. The only other thing that has been said is by his father when asked by a Spanish media that pogba would find Madrid interesting. Very few players wouldn't be intrested in joining Barcelona or real and he may not come but we do not know until he says something or signs a deal elsewhere that he doesn't. Unlike Griezmann who has done both those things.

170m was Griezmann and koke who was mentioned...a may have miss understood that be but i can't be bothered to go back and check as i am on my phone so i will conceded that point.

If we did sign pogba i fail to see why that would stop us going for kante.
 
The Glaston price virus is spreading through the system. I hope these people shut the feck up soon and leave the rest of us in peace ...:)
 
A player's worth is not defined by simply how good they are, other than in very broad terms (i.e. Pogba is worth more than Huddlestone), but by what the market dictates. If United are willing to spend £100m on this player, then that is their worth. And their worth is more than just how they play, but also their marketability, influence on the club as a whole (does their presence inspire others to join?), and how their performances improve the financials of the club (such as winning trophies). It's stupid to accuse a player of not being "worth" that much, because by the very definition of paying it then it becomes their worth. United will pay what the market demands of them for the players they think will improve that position, so the only true question is: does that player improve that position or not? And the answer is quite clearly, yes. Whether or not other players would improve it more is a moot point and something for your lurid fanfiction.

I apologise for contributing to this insurmountably dull discussion.
 
What do you think he is worth and what would you be happy with us paying for him

Its a very hard question to answer, but I can see an absolute high as £70m. Its £10m more than what we paid for Di Maria when he had a standout season for Real, bearing in mind also that flamboyant elite wingers would generally command higher fees than box-to-box midfielders. £100m is a whole £30m more than that upper scale.

Tbh I'd think most would agree with you in thinking £100m is too much. But I don't think he'd cost that much and even if he were I wouldn't be complaining as I'd rather have quality players in the team than United having a lot of money in their war chest. If your point was if we were to spend the money, you'd rather get different players, then fair enough but I personally will trust in Mourinho and the scouts to get the players they want and then analyse next year whether the players were good or not.

I'd be very pleased if he didn't cost that much. I do see us over-bidding to fend off a potential Real bid though.

How much do you think it would be worth to the club in commercial terms?

Modern mega transfers, unfortunately, are about a lot more than just the players ability.

In commercial terms? Not as much as a £100m transfer would suggest. He's no Zlatan/Mueller/Neymar by way of brands. I'm not even sure we get shirt sale revenue in the new adidas deal? Would have to read further into it.
 
Its Man Utd's money, and I care about spending wisely. Questioning a £100m bid on Paul Pogba is justified really.

The whole transfer market is questionable from anyone on the outside looking in - the fees are ridiculous but thats the marketa and its only going to get worse. Utd whore themselves out to every potential noodle, communications, mobile partner in every corner of the globe, as well as now receiving record income from TV rights. It is of no surprise that we are most likely willing to shell that money out. Anyone who is surprised needs to wake up and realise whats going on in the PL.

The Glazers have taken fortunes out of this club since the day they arrived. I couldnt care less how much it costs us to invest in the best talent - as long as that money is invested in the team.
 
The whole transfer market is questionable from anyone on the outside looking in - the fees are ridiculous but thats the marketa and its only going to get worse. Utd whore themselves out to every potential noodle, communications, mobile partner in every corner of the globe, as well as now receiving record income from TV rights. It is of no surprise that we are most likely willing to shell that money out. Anyone who is surprised needs to wake up and realise whats going on in the PL.

The Glazers have taken fortunes out of this club since the day they arrived. I couldnt care less how much it costs us to invest in the best talent - as long as that money is invested in the team.

If Pogba was the only option to better our team, I'd have no problem to spend whatever amount it took. But we are in a market with a lot of transfer targets, lots of good talent around - and you can get 3 very, very good players (potentially world class) for that supposed £100m equivalent.
 
If Pogba was the only option to better our team, I'd have no problem to spend whatever amount it took. But we are in a market with a lot of transfer targets, lots of good talent around - and you can get 3 very, very good players (potentially world class) for that supposed £100m equivalent.

Those players are?
 
A player's worth is not defined by simply how good they are, other than in very broad terms (i.e. Pogba is worth more than Huddlestone), but by what the market dictates. If United are willing to spend £100m on this player, then that is their worth. And their worth is more than just how they play, but also their marketability, influence on the club as a whole (does their presence inspire others to join?), and how their performances improve the financials of the club (such as winning trophies). It's stupid to accuse a player of not being "worth" that much, because by the very definition of paying it then it becomes their worth. United will pay what the market demands of them for the players they think will improve that position, so the only true question is: does that player improve that position or not? And the answer is quite clearly, yes. Whether or not other players would improve it more is a moot point and something for your lurid fanfiction.

I apologise for contributing to this insurmountably dull discussion.

What a bizarre definition of worth. If a madman took over the club ownership and then insisted on offering £300m for Pogba, does that also then become his "worth"?

In your definition there is never any case of over-paying, for any player by any club. But the real world is littered by countless examples to the contrary.
 
I'm far from convinced it will happen but I think the fee is justified in that its what is needed to have Juventus accept.

Length of contract - 2.5 years remaining with Juventus
Age - 23 (potential 7-10 years playing at the top level)
Worth to Juventus - key player
Motivation for Juventus to sell - minimal at 'standard' market value, they are competing in Europe on a regular basis - would require a huge bid
Importance to United - long term issue of midfield position resolved added bonus that they know he would settle in Manchester
Investment - Even at 100 mil it would be with the knowledge that his value will continue to rise in the next 4 years as the market changes and he continues his progress
Cost to United - 100 million is a drop in the ocean with the level of sponsorship deals and TV deals.
Alternatives: Verratti - similar age so unlikely to be a whole lot cheaper, Modric - 30 years old so not long term, Koke - huge cost but has already turned down Barcelona so unlikely to leave. basically he exists in an elite bracket of players whose club are not motivated to sell.
 
£100mil IS ridiculous money, but the whole transfer market is ridiculous at the minute. Everton want £50mil for Stones (lol) and £65mil for Lakuka etc. Liverpool want £30+mil for Benteke, after a poor season as well.
I still don't think the 'real world' deal will be £100mil, maybe 100mil with every extra and stipulation met maybe.
 
Can you show us an example of the team you'd play with whatever attacking player you'd like?

Kante-(I have not yet decided who I would play alongside Kante, but this player would need to have good ball distribution and he must also be good defensively. If Pogba goes to Real Madrid then we should try and get Kroos.

Mkhitaryan-Griezmann-Martial

Zlatan/Rashford


People may think these signings are unrealistic, but I believe if Pogba can be bought then so can Kante and Griezmann.
 
Its Man Utd's money, and I care about spending wisely. Questioning a £100m bid on Paul Pogba is justified really.

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United could make that money back easily through marketing the player properly, just like Madrid did with Ronaldo, Bale etc.
 
Kante-(I have not yet decided who I would play alongside Kante, but this player would need to have good ball distribution and he must also be good defensively. If Pogba goes to Real Madrid then we should try and get Kroos.

Mkhitaryan-Griezmann-Martial

Zlatan/Rashford


People may think these signings are unrealistic, but I believe if Pogba can be bought then so can Kante and Griezmann.

Griezmann just signed a new contract a few weeks ago. Literally impossible.
 
Whether it's £65m or £100m, that kind of money would be better spent on a world class attacking player like Griezmann, but that is just my opinion.
But maybe we don’t need another attackibg player. Maybe Pogba is the last piece in the puzzle to make us a contender again. Because I don’t think we are after Pogba because he is the shiny new toy out there. We are after him because Mourinho thinks he needs this kind of player in his team. Jose isn’t the type of manager who gets players he doesn’t need (except Falcao). He has a plan for his team and if Pogba is a part of it we should do everything in our power to convince him of the project and get him. I just don’t want us to waste the whole summer for a player who doesn’t want to play here. If he wanna come, go for it. If not… NEXT.
 
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United could make that money back easily through marketing the player properly, just like Madrid did with Ronaldo, Bale etc.

I don't think it works the same way with us. If it did we'd have bought way more marquee players just as Real did.
 
Griezmann doesn't want to come here, he has just signed a new deal and said that he wants to stay there. You say pogba doesn't want come here but he hasn't said anything. His agent said United would be interesting as would RM, psg etc. The only other thing that has been said is by his father when asked by a Spanish media that pogba would find Madrid interesting. Very few players wouldn't be intrested in joining Barcelona or real and he may not come but we do not know until he says something or signs a deal elsewhere that he doesn't. Unlike Griezmann who has done both those things.

170m was Griezmann and koke who was mentioned...a may have miss understood that be but i can't be bothered to go back and check as i am on my phone so i will conceded that point.

If we did sign pogba i fail to see why that would stop us going for kante.

I believe if we offered Atletico and Griezmann enough money they would sell, and he would want to come here.
 
I think if somehow we got Pogba AND Griezmann, we would win the league.

-----------Zlatan------------
Martial---Griezmann---Mkhitaryan
------Pogba-----Schweini, Rooney, Schneidy, Herrera.
 
Reliable RMC sport linking james rodriguez to PSG.
Hope they don't fund real to buy pogba by paying nonsense for james.


(edit) source : el confidencial
 
I fancy Pogba to make the transition to the PL much easier than Griezmann, and I really rate Griezmann. But if we were to spend massive money on one of them, I'd be more confident in Pogba.
 
No it's not. Throw enough money at them and they will sell.
hows that any different from 'throwing enough money at' Juve?

This thread is turning surreal.

Pogba is worth every penny. Why? Because the market says so. Enough of this armchair accounting. We have the cash and I'd rather we spend it on players than give it to the Glazers.

This is a football CLUB, not your local business. Everything we EARN is there to be SPENT.

And if the choice is between a 2nd striker or a CM, the CM position wins. We've failed to address it for 6 years.
 
But maybe we don’t need another attackibg player. Maybe Pogba is the last piece in the puzzle to make us a contender again. Because I don’t think we are after Pogba because he is the shiny new toy out there. We are after him because Mourinho thinks he needs this kind of player in his team. Jose isn’t the type of manager who gets players he doesn’t need (except Falcao). He has a plan for his team and if Pogba is a part of it we should do everything in our power to convince him of the project and get him. I just don’t want us to waste the whole summer for a player who doesn’t want to play here. If he wanna come, go for it. If not… NEXT.

We need a world class number 10/second striker, as we don't have one. I will say it again, if you throw enough money at Atletico and Griezmann they will sell and he will want to join us.
 
I fancy Pogba to make the transition to the PL much easier than Griezmann, and I really rate Griezmann. But if we were to spend massive money on one of them, I'd be more confident in Pogba.

I think they both would without much trouble. The issue is we are clearly not after Griezmann given the players we have already bought and the fact that he just signed a new contract. Its a bit like suggesting we buy Neymar this summer after having just bought Ibra and Mkhi.