Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

Get rid. Neves and Goretzka can both be had for less money than we bought him, and I suspect they'd make a bigger impact.
 
Of course it would, last week of the summer transfer window would be our only opportunity to make money on him.

It won't be the last opportunity to sell him.

I don't see the club selling him for a third of what they paid for him even with only a year on his contract.
 
Hope we sell him this summer. Him leaving on a free would be an embarrassment now.

It was clear last year that he wont sign an extension. Only Covid and the high price tag kept him here
 
You miss Nicky Butt?

Also Ince's attitude was 10x worse than Pogba.

I agree and we survived him going. Butt was a decent sub for keane, committed hard worker who loved the team and got stuck in. If Pogba had his attitude we’d have been laughing.
 
His actual age maybe over 28 but the state of that post proves he’s barely out of junior school mentally.

Butt & Ince ffs!

37, my point is that in a UTD shirt they all produced and won more.

Pogba like ince is a legend in his own head. Ince at least got the PL medals.
 
Anyone over 28 going to miss him?

Scholes, Keane, Ince, Butt, Robson?

no didn’t think so.
The only one comparable there is Ince - we had Keane at the club though. Butt wasn’t first choice, Keane was nowhere near the player he had been and had retired within 7 months of leaving and Scholes was so finished he’d already retired once before he did it again. Pogba is 28, in his prime and our CM options when he leaves are a finished Matic, Mctominay and Fred. We need two top midfielders.
 
If true about rejecting the contract it’s good news in my view. Not ideal if he leaves on a free at the end of next season but we need to move on from him now, if it means losing him on a free then so be it. We’ll be better off for it in the long run.
 
He's been offered 350k a week!! How is that being chased out with pitchforks?
Yep, if that's correct, he just doesn't want to be there anymore. United can't be faulted if he's turning down this kind of contract with Sancho just joining the team and maybe Varane on the way.
 
He ain't going anywhere. Just Pogba/Raiola do Pogba/Raiola things to get more money.
 
Our ability to drive out creative players with pitchforks is unparalleled.
This is a case of the player taking a pitchfork and pricking his own butt by hiring a PR team to constantly moan about being unhappy and ill treated.
 
Don't let him walk away for free again that's just a piss take, take the money and re-invest it into a DM.

Doesn't suit a 2 man midfield anyway we've never seen the best of Pogba he's not even that much of a loss.
 
As much as I love watching Pogba particularly for France, his performances for us have been a disappointment. Apart from the odd wonder goal he’s really shown poor value for money and has let us down when we needed him in the home defeat against Liverpool and the Europa Final. It sometimes feels like the team mood depends on whether or not he’ll turn up in a game and we simply can’t function like that, being biggest club in the country.
 
Which other creative players have we driven out?
I am going to assume: Di Maria, Memphis, Martial, likely VDB in recent years. Previously a good few wanted Nani gone and even Ronaldo in his younger years. I agree with that poster to some degree, we like to preach about our love of skills and flair etc but ultimately there’s a massive portion of this fan base who only really care about ‘hard work’, ‘grit’ ‘determination’ and all the other cliches that hang around English football.
 
Not sure about that. We have offered him a new contract but he apparently doesn’t want to sign it, so what do you expect the club to do?
I'm talking about the fans. Some have been on his case basically since he got here.
 
I am going to assume: Di Maria, Memphis, Martial, likely VDB in recent years. Previously a good few wanted Nani gone and even Ronaldo in his younger years.

Di Maria drove himself out. Memphis was most definitely not a creative player when he played for us. Martial is not a creative player. VDB has been piss poor and he hasn't been driven out yet. Nani wasn't a creative player. I wasn't around for the early Ronaldo discussions, but young Ronaldo's strengths didn't lie in his creativity, that's for sure.

'Flair' and 'creativity' are not the same thing.
 
Di Maria drove himself out. Memphis was most definitely not a creative player when he played for us. Martial is not a creative player. VDB has been piss poor and he hasn't been driven out yet. Nani wasn't a creative player. I wasn't around for the early Ronaldo discussions, but young Ronaldo's strengths didn't lie in his creativity, that's for sure.

'Flair' and 'creativity' are not the same thing.

Umm, what?
 
but ultimately there’s a massive portion of this fan base who only really care about ‘hard work’, ‘grit’ ‘determination’ and all the other cliches that hang around English football.
All very true and possibly one of the reasons we fail at international level.
We certainly have many gifted and capable players, but our obsession with playing endless back to back games, the ridiculous Christmas fixtures and the elephant in the room that’s the League Cup is just mindless.
 
Umm, what?

I remember him as a very direct player with lots of flair and a good shot. Yes he showed moments of creativity, but it was very far from his most prominent trait.

When I think 'creativity', I think about Scholes, Xavi, Iniesta, Bruno, De Bryune, Özil, D. Silva and Mata etc.
 
I am going to assume: Di Maria, Memphis, Martial, likely VDB in recent years. Previously a good few wanted Nani gone and even Ronaldo in his younger years. I agree with that poster to some degree, we like to preach about our love of skills and flair etc but ultimately there’s a massive portion of this fan base who only really care about ‘hard work’, ‘grit’ ‘determination’ and all the other cliches that hang around English football.

Have Martial and VdB left?

I must be missing something here.
 
So you think the fans have driven him out of the club? What utter bollocks
Look at what Evra adviced Pogba about the situation:

"To be fair, when he's playing people blame Paul. When he's not playing, people blame Paul," Evra said, before going on to call coverage of Pogba 'insulting' to the club and suggesting he should leave to end the negativity surrounding him.

"I don't agree with Roy, but when you are a problem for the club - for example when I kicked the fan in Marseille, the owner and the manager they come and say 'Patrice, what are we going to do now?' I say I'm leaving. I don't want to bring any negativity to the club.

"And right now, maybe it will be time for Paul to leave.

"I remember when it was a big game, Liverpool vs Man United. People were talking more about Jose Mourinho and Paul Pogba. This is insulting. For the biggest two clubs in the world, we're talking about one player and one manager.

"I think sometimes it's time. When you play, they blame you. When you're not playing they blame you also. I think maybe Paul already said to Man United 'I want to leave' and they don't let him go."

Link.

It's naive to think the fans haven't played a part.
 


Does he even know what "respectful" means? He is a big-time charlie who has let his agent and his family disrespect United every few months. He does it as well by not telling them not to, just his words out of their mouths.
 
No surprise there. There's no use in planning a long term team with Pogba when it's clear he wants to move on which is also fine. Bruno, Sancho, Rashford and a striker in front isn't a front 4 that works with Pogba anyway, so I'm OK with it.