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Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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I could understand him wanting to return to Juventus or joining Real Madrid, but PSG? I thought he wanted to leave us because he had high ambitions. 
With the strength of our forward players (Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Cavani)- adding to the highly talented kids in reserve (Shoretire, Elanga, Amad, Mejbri) I wouldn’t stress too much if he were to leave. Not sure he fits in without unbalancing the team somewhat!
I could understand him wanting to return to Juventus or joining Real Madrid, but PSG? I thought he wanted to leave us because he had high ambitions.
even Juventus is a bit of a cop out
as someone else said let him stat pad over in the French league, he'll fit in perfectly with the likes of Neymar and Mbappe
I don't think there's a better CM in world football so it's a shame we can't do enough to convince him to stay.
I'd rather we let him go on a free next year and see what we can do this year with Sancho and potentially Varane improving the starting lineup.
FML.
I'd rather we let him go on a free next year and see what we can do this year with Sancho and potentially Varane improving the starting lineup.
Rashford Cavani Sancho
Fernandes Pogba
CDM
Shaw Maguire Varane AWB
De Gea
We're about to be one CDM away from a world class starting 11. If we let Pogba go in this window we're back to needing two world class players to make a solid starting 11 and midfield would be very short in quality again. Fernandes Pogba
CDM
Shaw Maguire Varane AWB
De Gea
FML.
I absolutely love Pogba’s style. Great player and he is no doubt better than who we will get in at football but…
There comes a time if we can take £55 million or so do the deal and get someone new in on a 5 year contract. Hopefully 2 midfielders instead of 1.
Even as good as he was against Switzerland attacking wise we saw some issues defensively also.
It’s about building a team that gels and I’m also a little worried about him when he gets past 30 as he has played a lot of football already. Less risky if we sell now.
Let’s sell Maguire, Shaw, Bruno & the rest of the senior squad. . .
What a stupid point to make.
Thank god for that, get rid and get someone in that actually puts effort in 100% of the time.
Feel like he's going to bad mouth United big time when he leaves... should be interesting to hear his take on the Mou years and what he was promised when he returned to United.
If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then great, say you want to go to PSG and be done with it. We’ll move on and sign a player who might actually be consistently effective for us.
But he won’t do that. He’ll drag this on for weeks like usual.
But he won’t do that. He’ll drag this on for weeks like usual.
It's what happens when you take too long to rebuild. Mou's 2.5 years at Utd were just a waste of time for everyone involved.
Hopefully we don't make the same mistake again, and quickly fill whatever holes we have left. Footballers don't have unlimited time to wait around for a club to get it's shit together. And the ones who do, usually don't win much before retiring.
If he's not willing to sign an extension that is 350k p/w then he needs to be sold simple as that
Only a signing of Pedri who is also in his final year of his contract would make up for Pogba being allowed to leave.
Throw 200k a week Pedri's way. He can't refuse that with Barca being finished themselves.
The generals like Kroos, Thiago and Pjanic now look past their best so why not go after the brightest Barcelona starlet with big money when he has a year left on his current deal.
Throw 200k a week Pedri's way. He can't refuse that with Barca being finished themselves.
The generals like Kroos, Thiago and Pjanic now look past their best so why not go after the brightest Barcelona starlet with big money when he has a year left on his current deal.
Two of the best players in the world?
Also, our main striker now was stat padding for seven years in that team.
I don't agree, I like Pogba and I believe he's been frustrated ever since he returned because he loves the club but it's been a shitshow and we haven't had the chance to win the PL and CL, which is what he ultimately wants imo.
This is why I think him leaving this summer would be a terrible mistake: We're very much on an upward trajectory and have a legitimate chance to become one of the best teams in the world in the 2021/22 season and win major honours. None of Juve, RM or PSG would guarantee better chances than us for the upcoming season IMO. However, if we're still shit this season, then it would've truly been the last chance for him and could leave without any hurdles since his contract is expiring -> he would be able to pick his next club as everyone would welcome him with open arms on a free.
PS: Even though I like him, I can't be considered a huge fan of his, but still...don't compare him to that clown Neymar, please.
Goretska to replace him and he is an afterthought. I believe in Murtough!
Oh right.
Pedri has a 2 year team option on his contract....so Barca can make that 2022 expiry into 2024 at any time they wish. Although activating it without a wage bump likely wouldn't sit well with Pedri given how he's exploded this year.
Last I read Barca are offering him a big wage increase with a new contract instead of activating the option.
Thanks for the reply and info. With the turmoil at Barca right now it's probably worth a big bid to tempt them into the sale.
As unlikely as they may be to accept it. They know what they have on their hands in Pedri.
Bye bye. Can this circus finally leave town please? Get a good price for him and never think of him again. The only thing Pogba has consistently done in his United career is disappoint fans. Even when he was playing well for France, there was an element if “why can’t you do that for United?”
He’s the definition of a luxury player. You see flashes of brilliance and are left hoping he can produce that week in week out but he generally looks apathetic, and you always got the sense that he was playing for his own brand rather than the team.
I hope we never deal with that shitbag Raiola again. Not even for Haaland. PSG will be perfect for him. Lower pressure league where he can showboat all he wants and be surrounded by the arrogant glitz and glamour of Neymar and Mbappe. I’ll bet my bottom dollar he’ll have some back handed shit to talk after he’s left too.
He’s the definition of a luxury player. You see flashes of brilliance and are left hoping he can produce that week in week out but he generally looks apathetic, and you always got the sense that he was playing for his own brand rather than the team.
I hope we never deal with that shitbag Raiola again. Not even for Haaland. PSG will be perfect for him. Lower pressure league where he can showboat all he wants and be surrounded by the arrogant glitz and glamour of Neymar and Mbappe. I’ll bet my bottom dollar he’ll have some back handed shit to talk after he’s left too.
The thing is that’s a world class 11 on paper alone. It’s been proven time and time again that it’s better to have the right balance rather than just cramming in talent. Replacing Pogba with a lessor more balanced player will actually improve us as a team to be honest.
You've already started providing some arguments, aka context for those statistics.
In this analysis the environment is different for each player, it has no baseline, no target, etc. It is not thorough or relevant enough to be used to compare players or conclude anything, as your caveats have already started to show.
It is just a random statistic that will have more meaning in the relevant context (most likely in a more in-depth statistical analysis that an analyst would carry out), but in this particular case means nothing. You wouldn't expect a football club to sell a player on the basis of that, that's for sure.
I wouldn't discount PSG like that, they've got to two CL finals recently and signed Donnarumma and Wijnaldum a PL and CL winner for their midfield. I can see Pogba going to PSG and getting a CL trophy pretty quickly and won't it make us look very good messing around for 5 years.
Young fans are into PSG, it might be all very recent and manufactured but PSG is a high profile club sadly
Young fans are into PSG, it might be all very recent and manufactured but PSG is a high profile club sadly
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they've reached the final once
Potentially you're right. But who is that player that will be better for us as a CM than Pogba. That's a tough one.
I don’t care if he leaves as long as we sign a good midfielder this window. I don’t care who that may be as long as they fit the team dynamic and play well on a regular basis.
I don’t expect them to score more than 5 goals a season, I don’t expect them to be fast, I don’t expect them to be world class. I just expect them to be steady enough to play for a top 4 side and want to be here and win things.
I don’t expect them to score more than 5 goals a season, I don’t expect them to be fast, I don’t expect them to be world class. I just expect them to be steady enough to play for a top 4 side and want to be here and win things.
In France and the Middle East he’ll be everywhere. Especially when Mbappe leaves and he’s the only French jewel.
Meh as long as they purchase him this summer all is well. Will be hard to take him walking for free once more. We get funds to invest in the team or facilities then all is well. Good player on his day, never really lived up to expectations on a consistent basis. I hope whoever replaces him is a better fit.
3 man midfield with 2 defensively capable players with him. Like the France / Juve setups he played in.
This pretty much perfectly sums it up for me. Although I'd like a few more goals if possible!
From a DM I’d be happy with a few bangers, and a lot more pre assist moves, if you know what I mean? Ala Modric.
Well it's a final plus a semi final, back to back semi finals. "CL finals" term can be used as a semi final and final description.
no one describes Ole reaching 5 finals when he got knocked out of 4 semi finals so no you're talking out of your arse, the final is the final, the semi final is not a final
I have read it used that way, not that I would agree with grouping semi finals and final as the finals stage.
Anyway the point I'm making is about PSG being a big brand plus getting a CL final and semi final in the last two years. I don't see Pogba brand suffering, being forgotten about and PSG could be very close to winning a CL.
From #pogback to #pogsidelined. -I suspect Raiola is hoping that some publicity will get the fans rallying to Pogba, or criticising the club gor letting him go.
There's a lot to criticise the club for at the moment, but Pogbas contract situation is not one of them.
The fact that most peoples reaction to him leaving the club is mainly about who replaces him should make him realise how he has squandered his opportunities at the club.
PSG suits him.
He will score great goals against weak sides and can try a bit harder in the big games.
There's a lot to criticise the club for at the moment, but Pogbas contract situation is not one of them.
The fact that most peoples reaction to him leaving the club is mainly about who replaces him should make him realise how he has squandered his opportunities at the club.
PSG suits him.
He will score great goals against weak sides and can try a bit harder in the big games.
He was excellent at the Euro's. He will be excellent wherever he goes, why?
Because they will setup to get the best from him, by doing their homework, knowing his one weakness and accounting for it in who they partner him with... In fact we should sell him because we obviously all thought he was going to be Kante
So you want a slow midfielder with a poor return on goals and assists?
Good because we will have bunches of that with McFred and Matic.
Hopefully though we sign a true DM that can defend, is sound positionallly and can help us maintain possession.
Yeah I think PSG has a big shot for the CL this season too. Not Donnaruma nor Wijnaldum imo their most important signing is Ramos. As much as I dislike his dirty side in the game, guy is the type you want to be in your team if you'd like to win big things.
Pogba played the same position as Bruno here quite a lot before Bruno arrived. As usual he was inconsistent in the role like he is in every other role.
I know you’re joking but we really only need a DM that has great positioning and the ability to thread the ball between the lines and find feet in front of him.He was excellent at the Euro's. He will be excellent wherever he goes, why?
Because they will setup to get the best from him, by doing their homework, knowing his one weakness and accounting for it in who they partner him with... In fact we should sell him because we obviously all thought he was going to be Kante
So you want a slow midfielder with a poor return on goals and assists?
Good because we will have bunches of that with McFred and Matic.
Hopefully though we sign a true DM that can defend, is sound positionallly and can help us maintain possession.
At the moment the only way we find our forwards is by going long which is a defenders dream if they’re playing a low block.