Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Guess it was always going to happen. Bit surprising that he's decided to leave now (if rumours are correct) especially given the team that Ole is building. On paper, I'd say we're on par with PSG. To add to that, we're in much more of an attractive league.

It could be one of those Coutinho situations, in that some of us don't want him to leave but him leaving may allow Ole and the staff to build a more solid base and not have to worry about where to play him.

That being said, the players we're being linked with to replace him doesn't fill me with any confidence.

Goretzka and Saul are both box to box players. We have that in Fred and McTominay. What we now need is someone who has the passing range of Pogba but the defensive nous also.

Not a massive fan, but Neves has been linked with us. On paper, he's the type of player we should be targetting.

Maybe a cheeky swap deal for Verratti?

 

[frostbite]

If you are a kid and an experienced manager like SAF tells you "have patience", the wise thing to do is to listen to him. If you don't listen to him and you go away, this is a clear indication of future problems. This was such a huge red flag, I still cannot understand why the club paid so much to bring him back. Blunder number one.

If you own an expensive player, you simply don't let him run into his last year of contract. You either sell him or extend long before that. Blunder number two.

Now we got ourselves in such a situation where the player holds all the cards. We can't blame him, it is gross mismanagement on our part. But it is certainly not a surprise that we constantly run into problems with this player, it was evident long time ago.

 

[Flying high]

I for one won't miss him arseing about and losing the ball 10 yards in front of our box.

Neither will I.

Unfortunately whoever replaces him will probably do it a few times a year as well. And is likely to have half of the actual ability of Pogba.

Losing one of our best players might turn out well in the end, but the chances are we will be weaker without him.

 

[ivaldo]

Last year our win % and Goals scored were higher with out pogba (we played 30 with out him and 29 with him)

If he goes we can get more balanced squad by signing one of Saul / Aouar / Goretzka / Zeilinski / Carmavinga / Bissouma / Touchameni

Always a terrible stat.

 

[Coops73]

Always a terrible stat.

Personally I couldn’t give a feck about the fellas stats, get him gone and get someone in who wants to be at the club, not someone who likes his agent to bum the club whenever possible.

 

[Shimo]

He may not be toxic himself but there is always toxicity around him. You put up with it if its worth it, in this case, it's never been.

The toxicity around him is is only an issue for a portion of supporters.

You look at everything that comes out of players and managers around him and he is an absolute professional who they love having around and playing with and they don't pay much heed to the ramblings of Raiola, his brothers or whatever the latest gossip column has to say. To them it seems like he is absolutely worth it as a player and person.

Most recently Amad talked how much support Pogba has given him since his arrival and there are other youth players that have said the same since he has been back at the club. That absolutely is worth it when you talk about the history of this club and how the established players support the academy players and incoming young players.

 

[Drifter]

Won't mourn if he moves, Good player with flashes of the world-class player we are told he is, will a move to PSG bring out the best in him? Who knows, depends on Pogba and whether he can arsed.

 

[ivaldo]

Personally I couldn’t give a feck about the fellas stats, get him gone and get someone in who wants to be at the club, not someone who likes his agent to bum the club whenever possible.

Oh yeah. How many contracts have they bummed out of us now? Must be 7 or 8 at least.

 

[Steve 007]

No matter what anyone says His agent wouldn’t come out and make comments without his say so. The timing was always terrible too like before a make or break champions league tie or before the City game. I cannot think of any player in our history who let his agent talk so much. As for ability, he’s got it but he’ll never be a legend at Utd or PSG or Madrid or elsewhere because he’s not consistent enough.

 

[Nicoseth]

It we swapped Pogba for Rice, are we a better team??

I think we are.

I think so too. Much better balance.

 

[Born2Lose]

It we swapped Pogba for Rice, are we a better team??

I think we are.

The simplistic answer is no, but the problem is Pogba has started 34 PL games in 2 seasons whereas Rice has started 70 out of a possible 76 games.

"World class" players who start half the games in a season aren't conducive to winning a league in my view.

Look at the season that Liverpool won the league, I remember very few injuries to their key players.

 

[jesperjaap]

No matter what anyone says His agent wouldn’t come out and make comments without his say so. The timing was always terrible too like before a make or break champions league tie or before the City game. I cannot think of any player in our history who let his agent talk so much. As for ability, he’s got it but he’ll never be a legend at Utd or PSG or Madrid or elsewhere because he’s not consistent enough.

Agree with every word

 

[jesperjaap]

No. But we'd be a far better team if we swapped him for Bissouma and i.e. Goretzka, or any of the other midfielders we've been linked with.

SO basically, yes, but you dont like RIce

 

[Red Company]

No matter what anyone says His agent wouldn’t come out and make comments without his say so. The timing was always terrible too like before a make or break champions league tie or before the City game. I cannot think of any player in our history who let his agent talk so much. As for ability, he’s got it but he’ll never be a legend at Utd or PSG or Madrid or elsewhere because he’s not consistent enough.

Preach my friend, preach. Totally agree.

Love the legend part the most. The only thing he may become a legend for is his dancing being the most comical. I can’t wait to let him and his agent go be someone else’s headache.

I’d rather deal with his agent for players like Haaland who at least seem like they will be more reliable and consistent in their performances.

 

[el3mel]

This seems to be gathering pace.

Get rid and use the money to buy a new CM.

 

[RedDevilzFox]

The toxicity around him is is only an issue for a portion of supporters.

You look at everything that comes out of players and managers around him and he is an absolute professional who they love having around and playing with and they don't pay much heed to the ramblings of Raiola, his brothers or whatever the latest gossip column has to say. To them it seems like he is absolutely worth it as a player and person.

Most recently Amad talked how much support Pogba has given him since his arrival and there are other youth players that have said the same since he has been back at the club. That absolutely is worth it when you talk about the history of this club and how the established players support the academy players and incoming young players.

Agreed - I am just saying there is always drama around him (Raiola, his brother or mother or whatever) and he hasn't done much to put a stop to it. You accept it if he was prime Xavi but he is more like Riquelme. Talented but inconsistent with mood swings. Compare that to KDB and can't help but feel jelly of city's luck.

 

[charlenefan]

 

[charlenefan]

 

[ArjenIsM3]

I'm pretty sure James Blunt wrote a fitting song about this..

 

[Judas]

I hope we just get it sorted quickly, no messing about. Take the money and run.

 

[madzo2007]

Sky saying we're still in discussions, 15 minutes later the Mirror say he's rejected.

If he wants to go then let him go for the best money we can get, but until theres multiple sources saying the same thing I'm inclined to believe nothing has happened......yet

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Thank you Paul

 

[laughtersassassin]

Disco Mirror is hit or miss so who knows if this is true

Anyway we need a World Class replacement or our midfield will be pathetic.

No if or buts.

By right we need a DM and CM now.

 

[RedSky]

Disco Mirror is hit or miss so who knows if this is true

Anyway we need a World Class replacement or our midfield will be pathetic.

No if or buts.

By right we need a DM and CM now.

If Pauls off, then yeah, both required.

 

[Mainoldo]

I think so too. Much better balance.

Where’s our central creativity coming from? VBD don’t play.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Spoiler

 

[Judas]

It becomes a massive summer if he's leaving, we need two CM now, and we have to get this right.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Before everyone's jumping on this and tells Pogba to feck off like they love to do remember this "jounro" is the guy who made up a rumour that Pogba and Bruno injured eachother in training before a big game.

He is likely hedging his bets to try look good

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

He needs to fire his agent if he is telling him to reject a 350k/week contract in this pandemic depressed market.

 

[Mainoldo]

If the Mirror are to be believed we offered him a 3 year extension at £350k/week.

That's still more than he's worth. Good riddance.

More than his worth. Behave yourself. We ain’t getting no midfielder better than him for years.

 

[SuperiorXI]

I'd rather keep him for another year than lose him for 45m, that's a disgraceful amount for a player with his qualities. 60m bare minimum with bonuses to 75m.

 

[laughtersassassin]

More than his worth. Behave yourself. We ain’t getting no midfielder better than him for years.

Spot on.

 

[Judas]

I'd rather keep him for another year than lose him for 45m, that's a disgraceful amount for a player with his qualities. 60m bare minimum with bonuses to 75m.

Completely unrealistic.

 

[Nero]

Gonna be a nightmare replacing his 5 good games a season.

 

[laughtersassassin]

No way we'd sell him for less than we buy Varane for.

Pogba is a better Midfielder than Varane is CB.

He is more marketable to boot etc.

Worth at minimum 15 million more than Varane would be.

 

[Mickeza]

Before everyone's jumping on this and tells Pogba to feck off like they love to do remember this "jounro" is the guy who made up a rumour that Pogba and Bruno injured eachother in training before a big game.

He is likely hedging his bets to try look good

Yup. He used to leak the teams during the Moyes era I think - been absolute shite since. Fantastic way to get in the clicks here with some Delaney style speculation. I give it 3 hours until a reliable journalist comes out and says we haven’t offered him a contract and are still negotiating.

 

[#07]

I don't understand getting worked up about Pogba either way. Its felt like he's going this summer or next for awhile. So why get into a twist about the idea he might leave?

 

[laughtersassassin]

Just remember we wouldn't have got near the EL final without Pogba.

People just love to forget his contributions

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Pogba is a player who needs freedom in order to get the best out of him and we already have Sancho, Rashford, & Bruno to play in that freedom role aka Pogba's role. He might be quality but if we want to sell him due to his contract, it is not a big deal because there are already players within the squad who are capable to play in his best role. We don't need to sign someone like Pogba as like for like replacement, why sign a player who doesn't fit, we should sign someone who is different than Pogba. A midfield who can offer something in both attack and defense, someone more all rounder can actually make us look better.

 

[laughtersassassin]

I don't understand getting worked up about Pogba either way. Its felt like he's going this summer or next for awhile. So why get into a twist about the idea he might leave?

It's all about how we replace him.

Need 2 players imo. A DM and a CM

It's a big loss even if people want to pretend it isn't.