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Absolute bollocks. Paul Pogba signed a contract to PLAY for Manchester United for 5 years, plus one extra year with an extension, not play for two years then maybe leave if he’s had enough. He wanted a new contract two seasons ago and would have signed but the club waited an extra year before making an offer which he’s not signed. He’s not a prisoner, he can leave whenever he wants, the problem is he isn’t worth what United are asking for him and he’s done nothing on the pitch to make himself look like good value, he’s also looking for at least parity on his salary which no one but PSG will pay.
I don’t even know what your point about fat contracts is, fecking random is what it is.
Seems to be all the rage in Spain. Madrid booed Ronaldo…
That was mint.
Agree. He has done enough not to be considered a flop yet people call him a flop. A flop doesnt play over 150 games for Manchester United. The only reason people call him a flop is because they expected him to be the best midfielder in the world, dominate the league and drag Manchester United to titles. That is shown by people expecting him to be a defensive midfielder, assist goals and also score goals. Expectations no other midfielder in the world had to deal with and also not something any player in the world does. Despite that he did get a lot of assists and goals in his earlier seasons (for a midfielder who wasnt played as a attacking midfielder and in bad teams) but he never met those unrealistic expectations. It also was never good enough for some people. I remember that he was our topscorer for a season but ''that didnt count because he took penalties'' yet for Bruno that same rule didnt apply.
Unrealistic expectations, media/ex-players were against Pogba from the start, people love saying Fergie got it right by letting him leave despite that Fergie did want to keep him combined with Pogba his body language, his personality and transferfee made it a bad marriage between Pogba and Manchester United. I think he is still a very good player but i liked him more in his earlier seasons. He doesnt seem as athletic anymore after all the (real, not pretend) injuries he had. He also lost, or isnt allowed to use, some flair and his long shot ability.
I expect him to leave and he will look like a much better player in a better team. I dont think he will be the best midfielder in the world like some people expected him to be but he will be good. If people want to boo him than they can do hat. Personally i dont think he deserves it and certainly not after a game where he played just fine.
Bruno can't dribble, like Scholes can't tackle.
You want blind support for Harry Maguire because he is our player but Pogba, who is also our player and has done more for Manchester United than Harry Maguire, is a parasite.
Name me another top class number 10 who can’t dribble or lacks flair.
Bruno isn't a top class number 10 though. Not by modern days football.
See a nice bit of play from one player and use it to mock another fellow player
This place sometimesYou want blind support for Harry Maguire because he is our player but Pogba, who is also our player and has done more for Manchester United than Harry Maguire, is a parasite.
Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Nice try though
He played very well. Broke the press very easily and got out of tight pressing from deep by himself more than once. Passed well and recovered the ball well too as proven by those numbers and also backed by the video evidence of his touches.
a standard Pogba performance that will no doubt be filed as a "poor performance" in due course and used as justification for inconsistency when in reality he was our best player or at least one of them.
I thought he was decent yesterday, clearly lacked a midfield partner but he was fine, far from our worst player yesterday.
Right back is a real problem for us. I think if we had Rice or someone like him, it would really shore up the defence and we could manage on existing centre back options but we can't continue with current midfield options nor right back options.
Right back is a real problem for us. I think if we had Rice or someone like him, it would really shore up the defence and we could manage on existing centre back options but we can't continue with current midfield options nor right back options.
I guess it's just the world we live in now but I don't see how there can be a group of people who think he's the worst ever, and has let the club and fans down whilst another group think he's the most hard done by and been let down by the club and fans.
Like I said before, better for everyone that he's gone ASAP.
Like I said before, better for everyone that he's gone ASAP.
You're basing this opinion on the stats because you can't have watched the game with that opinion. He was okay, nothing more or less.
Roll on the summer when we can finally get rid of him along with the other bunch of mercenaries and hangers on.
Yes Pogba signed a contract to play for United for 5 years. That's exactly what he did.
My point isn't that the club is obliged to let him go halfway in. My point is that the club (or delusional fans) shouldn't moan about not getting a transfer fee when they choose to not sell him.
So you're mad he's seeing out his contract, but also mad he's leaving on a free
Do you see the irony here?
He technically is a prisoner when it comes to playing football. He can't play for another club if United won't let him. Which is literally what happened 2 years ago.
Where's your evidence that United wanted to sell Pogba for a reasonable fee, but it couldn't be met?
He hasn't lived up to the expectations of a signing of his size, but let's not pretend he's so shit no one wouldve been willing to pay 30-50 million for him 2 years ago. He never was a 100 million player to begin with, so it's fully on the club that they paid that fee, not on Pogba because he didn't perform like a 100m signing.
It’s absolutely mental. Any other player in our squad has that performance and they are getting lauded. There’s a compilation in the Bruno thread, and ok it’s where he lost possession, but it’s tragic. One player has been held responsible in terms of the fans for years...he deserves to walk away at the end of this season.
So you're mad he's seeing out his contract, but also mad he's leaving on a free
Do you see the irony here?
Obviously by choosing to leave on a free, Pogba is depriving the club of £50 million or thereabouts that could have gone towards his replacement, and that doesn't make you a little mad?
I don't think he had a good game at all yesterday, but that's just my opinion.
I'm curious, what did he do yesterday to deserve praise? Genuine question.
Yes Pogba signed a contract to play for United for 5 years. That's exactly what he did.
My point isn't that the club is obliged to let him go halfway in. My point is that the club (or delusional fans) shouldn't moan about not getting a transfer fee when they choose to not sell him.
So you're mad he's seeing out his contract, but also mad he's leaving on a free
Do you see the irony here?
He technically is a prisoner when it comes to playing football. He can't play for another club if United won't let him. Which is literally what happened 2 years ago.
Where's your evidence that United wanted to sell Pogba for a reasonable fee, but it couldn't be met?
He hasn't lived up to the expectations of a signing of his size, but let's not pretend he's so shit no one wouldve been willing to pay 30-50 million for him 2 years ago. He never was a 100 million player to begin with, so it's fully on the club that they paid that fee, not on Pogba because he didn't perform like a 100m signing.
Sounding like Sep Blatter on Ronaldo. I think there’s a pretty good chance we could have sold him two years ago if not for Covid. Pogba and his agent haven’t helped his cause with the fan base or getting a move away. All they’ve done is devalued him in the eyes of purchasers because they know he wants to move.
Also, £30 million. Without a doubt plenty would have signed him for that given you can barely buy a 30 year old Chris Wood for that price.
It’s a failure of United not to get the best from him, but similarly, he’s not managed to stay fit enough, maintain form or lead the dressing room. He’s missed on average 13 Premier League games a season, it’s pretty poor.
No, mate, he's not "just" leaving on a free.. He wanted to leave 2 years and the club didn't let him. I don't get why this context isn't relevant. It's not like there weren't other options for the club (you know, like selling him), the club choose to let him leave on a free instead.
Do you expect him to extend just so the club can get a transfer fee now? He's not a fan, he's a professional footballer and would cost him his own signing on fee.
Yeah, I'm mad at the club's incompetence, not because Pogba is leaving on a free after the club refused to sell him 2 years ago. This is important context.
I think refusing a move only to let your contract run down is scummy. Which again, isn't what Pogba is doing.
No idea what Blatter said on Ronaldo. I agree with most of you wrote, except he's definitely been among the better players in his time here. But even if we'd agree he was bang average like I dunno, Lindelof. it doesn't change the fact that booing wont make him play better, especially because he's leaving anyway, he doesn't need to be on good terms with fans.
It was something about him being a slave because we wouldn’t sell him originally to Madrid.
Yeah I don’t think he’s been especially bad or anything. I’ve come to the opinion that he’s one of senior pros at fault for the state of the dressing room. By all accounts the likes of Martial, Rashford, Bailly etc all look up to him. Then there’s Lingard who’s always been close with him. Obviously this is just my opinion.
I was a little surprised by the booing and chanting aimed at him yesterday, but this would have happened years ago at other European clubs. It’s a massive shame all round and feels like a waste of his career to have stayed here all this time.
In defense he was comical. Slide tackling to intercept a pass as the only holding midfielder and lunging into tackles like a lunatic. He was catastrophic in that department.
But we knew he would be. He put on a show in the attacking department. He's the reason our players upfront enjoyed the space they did. He absorbed 3-4 player presses opening up the field.
We can't use him like that every game though.
But we knew he would be. He put on a show in the attacking department. He's the reason our players upfront enjoyed the space they did. He absorbed 3-4 player presses opening up the field.
We can't use him like that every game though.
The fact he used his agent and brother to basically whore himself out to all and sundry never sat well with the fans or the club hierarchy, which leads me to think that had we received an acceptable offer for Pogba in the last couple of years, he wouldn't be here right now.
I don't believe that the club held him against his will, not with the likes of SAF sitting on the board of directors - who has proven multiple times during his career that no one is bigger than the club. Becks, Stam, Ruud all learned that the hard way. If Pogba wanted out and we found a club prepared to meet our valuation, he'd be long gone by now.
I think it's more reasonable to believe the club didn't receive an acceptable bid for Pogba, so he decided to run his contract down in order to force a move away. I'm only guessing, but I find that easier to believe than slavery.
He played well yesterday but he's been horrible in the whole season, he must leave in the summer. Pogba plays well once in a blue moon, we need someone who can play well consistently.
Not sure what you’re tagging me in?
the point you made about being a player to add to a good team not inspire one is spot on with him. He’s not a grab a team by the scruff of the neck type player and never has been.
Individually he was always a very good player. Paul Pogba has been playing for Paul Pogba for sometime now. His first year under Jose was good then he started to play up his usual antics. Jose wanted a committed team player and Pogba is not that. People say that when he plays for France it is different. it is different because with or without Pogba it would not make any difference for France. He knows that. yesterday he bought a brilliant ball down and made some good passes too but he was asked to have a defensive mindset by the coach and he did not do so at all.
I couldn’t care less if Pogba left for free, I’ve wanted him and some others gone for years and I’m glad most of them will be leaving this summer.Yes Pogba signed a contract to play for United for 5 years. That's exactly what he did.
My point isn't that the club is obliged to let him go halfway in. My point is that the club (or delusional fans) shouldn't moan about not getting a transfer fee when they choose to not sell him.
So you're mad he's seeing out his contract, but also mad he's leaving on a free
Do you see the irony here?
He technically is a prisoner when it comes to playing football. He can't play for another club if United won't let him. Which is literally what happened 2 years ago.
Where's your evidence that United wanted to sell Pogba for a reasonable fee, but it couldn't be met?
He hasn't lived up to the expectations of a signing of his size, but let's not pretend he's so shit no one wouldve been willing to pay 30-50 million for him 2 years ago. He never was a 100 million player to begin with, so it's fully on the club that they paid that fee, not on Pogba because he didn't perform like a 100m signing.
It’s well documented he was flirting with Madrid but they wouldn’t offer more than 50m, which was way short of United’s valuation. If Pogba really wanted out he could have waived various agent fees and lowered his salary demands, I’m sure Madrid would have been happy to buy him out if they really wanted him.
All the players that have come to United on big contracts and found themselves stuck only have themselves to blame.
See a nice bit of play from one player and use it to mock another fellow player
Yep sounds about right. What happens when people call frauds the second coming.
I have no idea why he was singled out yesterday
It was nothing to do with yesterday
Not sure what you mean.
A bit unfair to class him as a fraud, no?
It just didn't work out for Pogba and United. He's not the first time a big-name player who failed to adapt to life at United and he won't be the last, it's probably more common than we'd think.
If I was Pogba, I'd go to PSG and win a few trophies. It's a shame he couldn't win any with us, though.
Yep, make no mistake about it, our board have cultivated the current culture we have at the club.
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